RE: Moving to Lucene
Hmm, Thanks Ben I will look at it. What functionality would I lose using Lucene? Is there a matrix on the functionality differences? My Biggest concern I have with Verity is the cost when you really leverage it - on these fronts I cannot understand why MM include it when the cost of a 'real' K2 server is nigh on $120,000. I mean you only get to Index 250,000 Docs with CF Enterprise! Which is a small amount. N -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199081 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Moving to Lucene
Doug Hughes was raving about Lucene last year and had written a CFC that did this that and whatever. He never released it, but you could possibly chin him about it? http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryid-28/ Andy On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:05 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199084 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Nice one. -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 09:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Moving to Lucene Doug Hughes was raving about Lucene last year and had written a CFC that did this that and whatever. He never released it, but you could possibly chin him about it? http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryid-28/ Andy On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:05 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199085 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Anybody on this list got it to work? -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 09:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Moving to Lucene Doug Hughes was raving about Lucene last year and had written a CFC that did this that and whatever. He never released it, but you could possibly chin him about it? http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryid-28/ Andy On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:05 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199118 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
People I work with use it in Java projects, on machines without CF (and therefore without Verity) with great success. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Anybody on this list got it to work? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199121 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Do you give up any features? -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene People I work with use it in Java projects, on machines without CF (and therefore without Verity) with great success. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Anybody on this list got it to work? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199133 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
FYI, the CFSEARCH implementation in BlueDragon is implemented using Lucene, and includes the ability to spider web sites in addition to indexing files on disk. This capability is in all versions of BlueDragon, including the free Server edition. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Anybody on this list got it to work? -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 09:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Moving to Lucene Doug Hughes was raving about Lucene last year and had written a CFC that did this that and whatever. He never released it, but you could possibly chin him about it? http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryid-28/ Andy On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:05 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199141 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Keep in mind that the BlueDragon implementation only supports English (no Language attribute), and can only search HTML and text based documents. Ref: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/6_1/BlueDragon_ 61_CFML_Compatibility_Guide.pdf - Calvin -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene FYI, the CFSEARCH implementation in BlueDragon is implemented using Lucene, and includes the ability to spider web sites in addition to indexing files on disk. This capability is in all versions of BlueDragon, including the free Server edition. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Anybody on this list got it to work? -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 09:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Moving to Lucene Doug Hughes was raving about Lucene last year and had written a CFC that did this that and whatever. He never released it, but you could possibly chin him about it? http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryid-28/ Andy On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:05 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also see that Breeze uses it. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2005 00:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199213 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Exactly - one of the things you give up with Lucene is the set of document parsers included with Verity - if you want to index a Word Doc or PDF file, you have to find your own text extraction parsers to feed the text to Lucene. -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 March 2005 4:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Moving to Lucene Keep in mind that the BlueDragon implementation only supports English (no Language attribute), and can only search HTML and text based documents. Ref: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/6_1/BlueDragon_ 61_CFML_Compatibility_Guide.pdf - Calvin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199273 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Moving to Lucene
Neil, It's doable. You'll have lots less functionality, but it works. There was even a Custom Tag on a DRK a while back that emulated cfsearch etc. functionality but using Lucene. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Moving to Lucene We are a but agrieved at the cost Verity are charging for K2 Server, has anyone had any experience/success with moving from Verity to Lucene? Any help pointers much appreciated. TIA Neil This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199059 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
