RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Sean Daniels


 Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other solid
 backup/failover server system?

ClusterCats is a software based web server load balancing service. It will
do you absolutely no good if your DB server dumps it's motherboard again.
For true fault tolerance you would need at least two web servers load
balanced with ClusterCats (or any other software or hardware based load
balancer) AND at least two DB servers running in a Active/Passive or
Active/Active cluster configuration.

The latter is very tricky and expensive to achieve, unfortunately.

By the way, I have very little experience in actually doing this, only
researching it for my own servers.

- Sean
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Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Kirk Boecker

oops,, i guess i should have mentioned that we are/will purchase
hardware/software
as needed - just looking for suggestions on which systems actualy work.

looking into cluster cats, MSCS, NSI and anything else that may do the trick
hopefully easy and not to expensive

kirk



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From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats



  Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other
solid
  backup/failover server system?

 ClusterCats is a software based web server load balancing service. It will
 do you absolutely no good if your DB server dumps it's motherboard again.
 For true fault tolerance you would need at least two web servers load
 balanced with ClusterCats (or any other software or hardware based load
 balancer) AND at least two DB servers running in a Active/Passive or
 Active/Active cluster configuration.

 The latter is very tricky and expensive to achieve, unfortunately.

 By the way, I have very little experience in actually doing this, only
 researching it for my own servers.

 - Sean

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Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread net_man

On of the best hardware tools to Load Balance with is F5's Big IP.  They are
easily scalable and can load balance as many servers as you have switch
space for.  It far surpasses Alteon in the way it load balances...

If you are interested in a demo email Janeen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and she
will set it up...

Thanks,
Robert

- Original Message -
From: "Kirk Boecker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 oops,, i guess i should have mentioned that we are/will purchase
 hardware/software
 as needed - just looking for suggestions on which systems actualy work.

 looking into cluster cats, MSCS, NSI and anything else that may do the
trick
 hopefully easy and not to expensive

 kirk



 - Original Message -
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:42 AM
 Subject: RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 
   Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other
 solid
   backup/failover server system?
 
  ClusterCats is a software based web server load balancing service. It
will
  do you absolutely no good if your DB server dumps it's motherboard
again.
  For true fault tolerance you would need at least two web servers load
  balanced with ClusterCats (or any other software or hardware based load
  balancer) AND at least two DB servers running in a Active/Passive or
  Active/Active cluster configuration.
 
  The latter is very tricky and expensive to achieve, unfortunately.
 
  By the way, I have very little experience in actually doing this, only
  researching it for my own servers.
 
  - Sean
 

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RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Kurt Ward

I'm not sure what to expensive amounts to, but we use a hardware based
load balancing system (Big IP www.bigip.com) that works very well for the
web servers (a farm of three, with central data storage).  For our SQL
Servers, we also use a central data server for the DB's with the load
between 2 servers.  For failover of both systems, we have backup file
servers for the data.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: Kirk Boecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


oops,, i guess i should have mentioned that we are/will purchase
hardware/software
as needed - just looking for suggestions on which systems actualy work.

looking into cluster cats, MSCS, NSI and anything else that may do the trick
hopefully easy and not to expensive

kirk



- Original Message -
From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats



  Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other
solid
  backup/failover server system?

 ClusterCats is a software based web server load balancing service. It will
 do you absolutely no good if your DB server dumps it's motherboard again.
 For true fault tolerance you would need at least two web servers load
 balanced with ClusterCats (or any other software or hardware based load
 balancer) AND at least two DB servers running in a Active/Passive or
 Active/Active cluster configuration.

 The latter is very tricky and expensive to achieve, unfortunately.

 By the way, I have very little experience in actually doing this, only
 researching it for my own servers.

 - Sean

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Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Kirk Boecker

thanks for all the info

what is the cost of the BIGIP controller? which model are you using?

kirk


- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 I'm not sure what to expensive amounts to, but we use a hardware based
 load balancing system (Big IP www.bigip.com) that works very well for the
 web servers (a farm of three, with central data storage).  For our SQL
 Servers, we also use a central data server for the DB's with the load
 between 2 servers.  For failover of both systems, we have backup file
 servers for the data.

 Kurt

 -Original Message-
 From: Kirk Boecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:14 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 oops,, i guess i should have mentioned that we are/will purchase
 hardware/software
 as needed - just looking for suggestions on which systems actualy work.

 looking into cluster cats, MSCS, NSI and anything else that may do the
trick
 hopefully easy and not to expensive

 kirk



 - Original Message -
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:42 AM
 Subject: RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 
   Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other
 solid
   backup/failover server system?
 
  ClusterCats is a software based web server load balancing service. It
will
  do you absolutely no good if your DB server dumps it's motherboard
again.
  For true fault tolerance you would need at least two web servers load
  balanced with ClusterCats (or any other software or hardware based load
  balancer) AND at least two DB servers running in a Active/Passive or
  Active/Active cluster configuration.
 
  The latter is very tricky and expensive to achieve, unfortunately.
 
  By the way, I have very little experience in actually doing this, only
  researching it for my own servers.
 
  - Sean
 

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Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Cary Gordon

We have moved to ServerIron switches from Foundry Networks for load 
balancing and failover.  They are flexible and very fast.

Cary

At 11:10 AM 1/8/2001 -0800, you wrote:
Sorry for the slightly OT post,

We have a server pair running our main CF application, both are DELL
enterprise servers,
(1 running win2k, IIS and CF 4.5 and the other running SQL server 7).

We are not maxing out the server at all but we need some type of failover
security
(last week we had a motherboard in the DB server take a dump on us).

We are thinking of setting up some type of cluster (cluster cats?) or some
type of
mirrored set of servers to take over if something goes wrong.

Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other solid
backup/failover server system?

Kirk Boecker


Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company


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Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Jon Hall

Win2k Advanced Server's built in clustering and failover software is very
slick and easy to use.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "Kirk Boecker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats


 Sorry for the slightly OT post,

 We have a server pair running our main CF application, both are DELL
 enterprise servers,
 (1 running win2k, IIS and CF 4.5 and the other running SQL server 7).

 We are not maxing out the server at all but we need some type of failover
 security
 (last week we had a motherboard in the DB server take a dump on us).

 We are thinking of setting up some type of cluster (cluster cats?) or some
 type of
 mirrored set of servers to take over if something goes wrong.

 Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any other solid
 backup/failover server system?

 Kirk Boecker



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RE: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats

2001-01-08 Thread Lee Fuller

Agreed

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats
 
 
 Win2k Advanced Server's built in clustering and failover software is very
 slick and easy to use.
 
 jon
 - Original Message -
 From: "Kirk Boecker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:10 PM
 Subject: Multiple Servers - Cluster Cats
 
 
  Sorry for the slightly OT post,
 
  We have a server pair running our main CF application, both are DELL
  enterprise servers,
  (1 running win2k, IIS and CF 4.5 and the other running SQL server 7).
 
  We are not maxing out the server at all but we need some type 
 of failover
  security
  (last week we had a motherboard in the DB server take a dump on us).
 
  We are thinking of setting up some type of cluster (cluster 
 cats?) or some
  type of
  mirrored set of servers to take over if something goes wrong.
 
  Does anyone have any experience setting up Cluster Cats or any 
 other solid
  backup/failover server system?
 
  Kirk Boecker
 
 
 

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