Re: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-09 Thread S R

I agree, you should see how many people lie about having a college degree 
when applying for jobs while I busted my ass for 4 years. Some people have 
nerve!


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>I don't know this person so it appears to be Spam email that I got from
>him.  I therefore wonder how many others have received a similar request
>to help him cheat on the CF certification exam.  I find it very
>irritating that the value of my own efforts at getting honestly
>certifiied can be so easily diluted by cheaters.  This character and
>others like him should be blacklisted somehow and prevented from even
>taking the exam.  (I bet he cheated on his Microsoft and Prosoft exams
>too).
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>Regards,
>
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>Hi.
>
>I am Dilip Jumani working as a Software Consultant.
>
>I want to clear the ACPP(Allaire Certified
>Professional Program) exam. For that I need your help.
>
>If you have attended any of the training on Cold
>Fusion and have any material or if you have questions
>or dumps for the exam then please send me those. I
>will appreciate it very much.
>
>So far, I have cleared Microsoft and Prosoft exams.
>Please let me know if I can be helpful to you anyway.
>
>Expecting a positive response from you.
>
>Email id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanking you,
>Dilip.
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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-09 Thread Gregory Gooden (Annex)


I got it.. and was appropriately irritated.. grin

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> I don't know this person so it appears to be Spam email that 
> I got from
> him.  I therefore wonder how many others have received a 
> similar request
> to help him cheat on the CF certification exam.  I find it very
> irritating that the value of my own efforts at getting honestly
> certifiied can be so easily diluted by cheaters.  This character and
> others like him should be blacklisted somehow and prevented from even
> taking the exam.  (I bet he cheated on his Microsoft and Prosoft exams
> too).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Karl Simanonok
> 
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> Hi.
> 
> I am Dilip Jumani working as a Software Consultant.
> 
> I want to clear the ACPP(Allaire Certified
> Professional Program) exam. For that I need your help.
> 
> If you have attended any of the training on Cold
> Fusion and have any material or if you have questions
> or dumps for the exam then please send me those. I
> will appreciate it very much.
> 
> So far, I have cleared Microsoft and Prosoft exams.
> Please let me know if I can be helpful to you anyway.
> 
> Expecting a positive response from you.
> 
> Email id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanking you,
> Dilip.
> 

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Re: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz

I didn't receive an email of this sort. If I did, I'd have done for them
what I did for people internal to House of Fusion / CoreActive; I gave them
homework (besides giving classes and such).
Let me give the same homework to anyone who wants to actually work for a
good mark on the test.

1. Look over ALL of the CF tags. Read each tag name, read the description
and then make a mental note as to its worth and category. For example:
CFSET is very important, so I'd suggest writing it down on a paper with some
notes. Same for CFIF and CFQUERY. CFGRID is not so important, so just
knowing that it's a java applet that works with CF and it part of the CFFORM
tags is enough.
When your done with this, you'll have a good idea of what all the tags are
and a list of the ones you feel are important. As a side note, remember some
of the required attributes for the important tags.
2. Look over ALL of the CF functions. Do the same as above.
3. Try and group stuff together on paper and then in your head. Writing down
a short paragraph saying that there are 5 types of loops and what each does
(and what the index/item/whatever on each is). Same goes with the other
'core' tags.
4. Think of a scenario and think on how to go about solving it. In the last
issue of FA, there were some questions that were just for this purpose.
http://www.fusionauthority.com/alert/index.cfm?alertid=33#tech4
These are really no brainers but they really help. Best bet is to actually
have someone sit down and ask you questions on all the above. Works great.

>
> I don't know this person so it appears to be Spam email that I got from
> him.  I therefore wonder how many others have received a similar request
> to help him cheat on the CF certification exam.  I find it very
> irritating that the value of my own efforts at getting honestly
> certifiied can be so easily diluted by cheaters.  This character and
> others like him should be blacklisted somehow and prevented from even
> taking the exam.  (I bet he cheated on his Microsoft and Prosoft exams
> too).
>
> Regards,
>
> Karl Simanonok
>
> Original message to me:
> 
>
>
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> From: dilip jumani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Need your help desperately...
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Hi.
>
> I am Dilip Jumani working as a Software Consultant.
>
> I want to clear the ACPP(Allaire Certified
> Professional Program) exam. For that I need your help.
>
> If you have attended any of the training on Cold
> Fusion and have any material or if you have questions
> or dumps for the exam then please send me those. I
> will appreciate it very much.
>
> So far, I have cleared Microsoft and Prosoft exams.
> Please let me know if I can be helpful to you anyway.
>
> Expecting a positive response from you.
>
> Email id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanking you,
> Dilip.
>
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Re: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-09 Thread Angel Stewart

Ehhmm..

You think that looking at "Brain dump" sites is "Cheating" and diluting the
worth of the ACPP exam?

In University..did you ever go through Past Papers for the courses you were
doing?

Or ask the people that have done the exam before what sort of questions
came..
was it hard..
was it easy..
what should be you're focus in the exam..things you should watch out for
etc.??

Do you think that people who did that were "cheapening" their University
exams?
Do you think they were cheating?

Just curious.

-Gel


- Original Message -
From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: "Need your help desperately..."


> I didn't receive an email of this sort. If I did, I'd have done for them
> what I did for people internal to House of Fusion / CoreActive; I gave
them
> homework (besides giving classes and such).
> Let me give the same homework to anyone who wants to actually work for a
> good mark on the test.
>
> 1. Look over ALL of the CF tags. Read each tag name, read the description
> and then make a mental note as to its worth and category. For example:
> CFSET is very important, so I'd suggest writing it down on a paper with
some
> notes. Same for CFIF and CFQUERY. CFGRID is not so important, so just
> knowing that it's a java applet that works with CF and it part of the
CFFORM
> tags is enough.
> When your done with this, you'll have a good idea of what all the tags are
> and a list of the ones you feel are important. As a side note, remember
some
> of the required attributes for the important tags.
> 2. Look over ALL of the CF functions. Do the same as above.
> 3. Try and group stuff together on paper and then in your head. Writing
down
> a short paragraph saying that there are 5 types of loops and what each
does
> (and what the index/item/whatever on each is). Same goes with the other
> 'core' tags.
> 4. Think of a scenario and think on how to go about solving it. In the
last
> issue of FA, there were some questions that were just for this purpose.
> http://www.fusionauthority.com/alert/index.cfm?alertid=33#tech4
> These are really no brainers but they really help. Best bet is to actually
> have someone sit down and ask you questions on all the above. Works great.
>
> >
> > I don't know this person so it appears to be Spam email that I got from
> > him.  I therefore wonder how many others have received a similar request
> > to help him cheat on the CF certification exam.  I find it very
> > irritating that the value of my own efforts at getting honestly
> > certifiied can be so easily diluted by cheaters.  This character and
> > others like him should be blacklisted somehow and prevented from even
> > taking the exam.  (I bet he cheated on his Microsoft and Prosoft exams
> > too).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Karl Simanonok
> >
> > Original message to me:
> > 
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am Dilip Jumani working as a Software Consultant.
> >
> > I want to clear the ACPP(Allaire Certified
> > Professional Program) exam. For that I need your help.
> >
> > If you have attended any of the training on Cold
> > Fusion and have any material or if you have questions
> > or dumps for the exam then please send me those. I
> > will appreciate it very much.
> >
> > So far, I have cleared Microsoft and Prosoft exams.
> > Please let me know if I can be helpful to you anyway.
> >
> > Expecting a positive response from you.
> >
> > Email id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanking you,
> > Dilip.
> >


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Re: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz

I refuse to make a value judgment on asking people who took the test for the
right questions. Some will say its perfectly legal and others will say its
wrong. Instead, I like to give access to data and let people learn. That's
actually one of the great things about the community. We share data all over
the place (even when we shouldn't).
I was going to save this till it was done, but I'll release it now as part
of this thread. It's a version of the CF docs where people can add in their
own comments. It's still in beta and changes will be made (like in the logon
section).
www.fusionauthority.com/docs
Like I said, give info and let those who wish to learn do so.


> Ehhmm..
>
> You think that looking at "Brain dump" sites is "Cheating" and diluting
the
> worth of the ACPP exam?
>
> In University..did you ever go through Past Papers for the courses you
were
> doing?
>
> Or ask the people that have done the exam before what sort of questions
> came..
> was it hard..
> was it easy..
> what should be you're focus in the exam..things you should watch out for
> etc.??
>
> Do you think that people who did that were "cheapening" their University
> exams?
> Do you think they were cheating?
>
> Just curious.
>
> -Gel
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: "Need your help desperately..."
>
>
> > I didn't receive an email of this sort. If I did, I'd have done for them
> > what I did for people internal to House of Fusion / CoreActive; I gave
> them
> > homework (besides giving classes and such).
> > Let me give the same homework to anyone who wants to actually work for a
> > good mark on the test.
> >
> > 1. Look over ALL of the CF tags. Read each tag name, read the
description
> > and then make a mental note as to its worth and category. For example:
> > CFSET is very important, so I'd suggest writing it down on a paper with
> some
> > notes. Same for CFIF and CFQUERY. CFGRID is not so important, so just
> > knowing that it's a java applet that works with CF and it part of the
> CFFORM
> > tags is enough.
> > When your done with this, you'll have a good idea of what all the tags
are
> > and a list of the ones you feel are important. As a side note, remember
> some
> > of the required attributes for the important tags.
> > 2. Look over ALL of the CF functions. Do the same as above.
> > 3. Try and group stuff together on paper and then in your head. Writing
> down
> > a short paragraph saying that there are 5 types of loops and what each
> does
> > (and what the index/item/whatever on each is). Same goes with the other
> > 'core' tags.
> > 4. Think of a scenario and think on how to go about solving it. In the
> last
> > issue of FA, there were some questions that were just for this purpose.
> > http://www.fusionauthority.com/alert/index.cfm?alertid=33#tech4
> > These are really no brainers but they really help. Best bet is to
actually
> > have someone sit down and ask you questions on all the above. Works
great.
> >
> > >
> > > I don't know this person so it appears to be Spam email that I got
from
> > > him.  I therefore wonder how many others have received a similar
request
> > > to help him cheat on the CF certification exam.  I find it very
> > > irritating that the value of my own efforts at getting honestly
> > > certifiied can be so easily diluted by cheaters.  This character and
> > > others like him should be blacklisted somehow and prevented from even
> > > taking the exam.  (I bet he cheated on his Microsoft and Prosoft exams
> > > too).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Karl Simanonok
> > >
> > > Original message to me:
> > > 
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I am Dilip Jumani working as a Software Consultant.
> > >
> > > I want to clear the ACPP(Allaire Certified
> > > Professional Program) exam. For that I need your help.
> > >
> > > If you have attended any of the training on Cold
> > > Fusion and have any material or if you have questions
> > > or dumps for the exam then please send me those. I
> > > will appreciate it very much.
> > >
> > > So far, I have cleared Microsoft and Prosoft exams.
> > > Please let me know if I can be helpful to you anyway.
> > >
> > > Expecting a positive respons

Re: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-10 Thread Karl Simanonok

Angel, I've never see a 'Brain Dump' site that you might be referring to
so I can't comment on that.  But I know there are many kinds of exams
for which there exist study materials, sample questions from old exams,
etc., that sometimes are even recommended by the people who create the
real exams.  As long as nobody's trafficking in current questions it's
not cheating.

'In University' (you must be not from the US) I never once took an exam
that I had any expectation had exactly the same questions on it as a
prior exam.  Professors always ask new questions for each exam, or at
least reword them so students can't simply memorize answers from an
earlier exam and cheat that way.  The only few exceptions are
standardized tests like SATs used for college entrance screening, for
which the questions are the same for a long time and are therefore
guarded closely against the kind of cheating that the CF developer's
exam is vulnerable to for the same reason.

In college of course people study from old exams to get some kind of
idea about what to expect on the next exam.  Enlightened professors
sometimes make old exams available.  A very enlightened graduate
department I was in (Physiology, UC Davis) even maintained collections
of old exams in the library that students could check out, and they were
encouraged to by the professors.  This made the playing field level for
everyone and was very constructive.  The professors took them into
account so that they never re-used old questions exactly as they had
appeared on previous exams.  Similarly, there are books of sample (old)
SAT questions that many people use to study from, but these never
contain the questions for the current exam.  However, in no case is it
considered 'not cheating' to traffic in specific questions and/or
answers for a current exam (which is what we're talking about with the
CF certification exam), whether it's the SAT or any college exam.  And
yes, anybody who does THAT is definitely 'cheapening' the efforts of the
honest test-takers.  That's similar to buying a term paper from one of
those low-life services that sells them to cheaters.

The fellow who emailed me didn't ask 'was it hard or was it easy', he is
clearly looking for clueless people to feed him specific questions from
the CF certification exam.  Thats an attempt to cheat, pure and simple.

Regards,

Karl Simanonok

Original Message:

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:41:05 -0300
From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Need your help desperately..."
Message-ID: <00b601c00252$e7eb3860$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ehhmm..

You think that looking at "Brain dump" sites is "Cheating" and diluting
the
worth of the ACPP exam?

In University..did you ever go through Past Papers for the courses you
were
doing?

Or ask the people that have done the exam before what sort of questions
came..
was it hard..
was it easy..
what should be you're focus in the exam..things you should watch out for

etc.??

Do you think that people who did that were "cheapening" their University

exams?
Do you think they were cheating?

Just curious.

-Gel

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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-10 Thread Mark Armendariz

With all due respect as a fellow CF developer, if you expect a certification
to get you a job, then you are cheating yourself.  Show good work and stay
in the forefront and it doesn't matter who cheated and who studied for the
test.  I know a few people that had to cheat the MS exams just to get their
foot in the door.  Couldn't afford college, just enough money to cheat a
certification.  Now they are some of the finest network admins out there.
An exam is nothing more than a review.  If the piece of paper makes you more
confident... good.  That's all it's truly good for.

And quite honestly, within the past year or so (disregard the years prior -
the 'static' years), I haven't met a single successful developer / designer
who didn't have any good work to show for it.  But i HAVE met quite a few
'certified' unemployed 'developers'.




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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-10 Thread Scott, Andrew

I would agree with this, for the simple fact I hold no degrees in anything.
But I am a very quick learner, and work hard to achieve what I set out to
do. I have 20 years programming experience, and have dabbled in a lot of
languages. I have a very impressive resume, and the ability to sell my
skills.

I did think the CF certificate would make it easier to say you know CF, but
what about programming logic this is a lot harder to learn and comes from
experience. I see the Allaire Certificate for CF a waste of my time, only
because I believe in my ability to do the work and think that my work in the
industry will be enough to keep working in it.


regards

Andrea Scott
ANZ eCommerce Centre
* Ph 9273 0693  
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Mark Armendariz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 August 2000 10:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "Need your help desperately..."


With all due respect as a fellow CF developer, if you expect a certification
to get you a job, then you are cheating yourself.  Show good work and stay
in the forefront and it doesn't matter who cheated and who studied for the
test.  I know a few people that had to cheat the MS exams just to get their
foot in the door.  Couldn't afford college, just enough money to cheat a
certification.  Now they are some of the finest network admins out there.
An exam is nothing more than a review.  If the piece of paper makes you more
confident... good.  That's all it's truly good for.

And quite honestly, within the past year or so (disregard the years prior -
the 'static' years), I haven't met a single successful developer / designer
who didn't have any good work to show for it.  But i HAVE met quite a few
'certified' unemployed 'developers'.





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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-10 Thread rkeniger



"Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>Andrea Scott
>ANZ eCommerce Centre
>* Ph 9273 0693
>* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So which is it? Andrew or Andrea? Or are there multiple personalities all
fighting each other? :-)


Rob Keniger


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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-11 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> I would agree with this, for the simple fact I hold no degrees in
> anything.
> But I am a very quick learner, and work hard to achieve what I set out to
> do. I have 20 years programming experience, and have dabbled in a lot of
> languages. I have a very impressive resume, and the ability to sell my
> skills.
>
> I did think the CF certificate would make it easier to say you
> know CF, but
> what about programming logic this is a lot harder to learn and comes from
> experience. I see the Allaire Certificate for CF a waste of my time, only
> because I believe in my ability to do the work and think that my
> work in the
> industry will be enough to keep working in it.

I have to totally agree with this assessment - I never went to Uni, hold no
degrees or real qualifications in programming, but I've been a
programmer/developer for the last 10-12 years (in a variety of languages)

I cheated on finding a job though, I own a third of my company 

I'm actually taking the CF Certification in November (at the Conference)
just so that clients are more at ease with the development work - I prove
that I can do the work by the sites I've developed, not by a piece of paper

Philip Arnold
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133

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RE: "Need your help desperately..."

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew Scott

The latter sounds good, but no it was a typo and hase been rectified I don't
look good in a dress anyway:-)

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"Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>Andrea Scott
>ANZ eCommerce Centre
>* Ph 9273 0693
>* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So which is it? Andrew or Andrea? Or are there multiple personalities all
fighting each other? :-)


Rob Keniger



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Re: Need your help desperately

2000-08-11 Thread Karl Simanonok

Hey, check this out!  This guy is now Spamming people and trying to make
himself not look like such a blatant cheater any more.  He must read
CF-Talk!

dilip jumani wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I hope you are fine and enjoying best of your health.
>
> I request you to please share your experience of Cold
> Fusion exam. How is the exam? What kind of questions
> are being asked? Are there only radio buttons or check
> boxes, in the answers? Is it too tough? Please share
> your views. It will be very much helpful to me.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dilip
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
> http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Re: Need your help desperately

2000-08-11 Thread John Allred

Karl,

I don't see a single specific question. All of them are of a general
nature. I consider myself honest and would have no problem either asking or
answering questions of this type.

I don't know the whole context of this message, so I may have missed
something, but based on the words alone, I hope someone will fill him in on
what to expect, as long as they don't give him any of the questions asked.

Regards,
--John



   
 
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Hey, check this out!  This guy is now Spamming people and trying to make
himself not look like such a blatant cheater any more.  He must read
CF-Talk!

dilip jumani wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I hope you are fine and enjoying best of your health.
>
> I request you to please share your experience of Cold
> Fusion exam. How is the exam? What kind of questions
> are being asked? Are there only radio buttons or check
> boxes, in the answers? Is it too tough? Please share
> your views. It will be very much helpful to me.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dilip
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
> http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Fusion Authority's Doc site( was Re: "Need your help desperately...")

2000-08-10 Thread Angel Stewart

This looks fantastic Mike =)
Everyone on the list should give it a look see.
Are these notes Threaded, or more a guest book style?
You should put a link somewhere for people to ask questions, say..point them
to this list.
Because you know that some of those notes are going to turn into "Can you
explain..."
instead of " In addition to the above this is also important.."
heh heh

But this is a great idea!

-Gel

- Original Message -
From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I refuse to make a value judgment on asking people who took the test for
the
> right questions. Some will say its perfectly legal and others will say its
> wrong. Instead, I like to give access to data and let people learn. That's
> actually one of the great things about the community. We share data all
over
> the place (even when we shouldn't).
> I was going to save this till it was done, but I'll release it now as part
> of this thread. It's a version of the CF docs where people can add in
their
> own comments. It's still in beta and changes will be made (like in the
logon
> section).
> www.fusionauthority.com/docs
> Like I said, give info and let those who wish to learn do so.


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