RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Bridget Corkery]

Thank you to everyone for your feedback.  I have just ordered both Mastering
Cold Fusion and Forta's Web Application Kit.  I will then hopefully be
moving on to his advanced CF book.  Thanks Again  
Bridget

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Merker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie Forta Question


Get this one, when I was totally new to CF my first book was Mastering CF by
Danesh. I thought it sucked at the time because demo code was buggy an I
didn't have enough of the basic
understanding of CF. Now that I have reached the next plateau of
understanding the book moves right with Forta's books. I'll read the same
topic in both books and the understanding
and perspective of both authors opens doors of understanding for me.

Jennifer wrote:

> I agree. I have Mastering CF and the two Forta books. I had the Forta
books
> first and I was confused about some things. When I got the Mastering book,
> my questions were answered. If you have to learn ColdFusion as quickly as
> possible but not as thoroughly as possible, Mastering is perfect. But you
> won't get the details or the techniques that you will get from the Forta
> books. The best bet is to get both and read the equivalent sections in
> both. That will give you the greatest benefits.
>
> At 03:50 PM 5/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >I would actually suggest that the Mastering ColdFusion Book by Danesh is
> >also worth reading. They have very different approaches to writing about
CF.
> >I've got friends who I've lent both books to who have stated that the
Danesh
> >book is easier going if you are starting out.
> >
> >The Forta books approach subjects in a much more thorough sectioned way
> >though and I use them as a reference when I need to examine an aspect of
CF.
> >I do not look at the Danesh book anymore.
> >
> >I would suggest though that any book on CF is worthwhile purchasing. The
> >Danesh book is good 'course' book, whereas I feel the Forta books are
> >essential reference books.
> >
> >
> >Adam Reynolds
> >ColdFusion Consultant
> >HJ Heinz
> >Tel: 01344 397016  Fax: 01344 397010
> >Mobile: 07973 386620
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > --
> > > From: James Mathieson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 18 May 2000 15:20
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  RE: Newbie Forta Question
> > >
> > > Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the
CFWACK
> > > has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
> > > importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which
is
> > > something often lacking in programming books...
> > >
> > > So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great
investment.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > James~
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF,
but
> > > basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> > > wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web
Application
> > > Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.
I
> > > have
> > > worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
> > > just
> > > wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bridget
> > >
> > >
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Kristian D. Seaney]

IDG has the cold fusion for dummies book out as well. It is good, has some
cute tips and has ten custom tags in it that are fun to do.

Kris Seaney


-Original Message-
From:   Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Newbie Forta Question

Ditto!

Get them regardless of the version you are working on.  They are a great
resourse to fall back on.  I am using version 4.5.1 but the books are
excellent resourses.

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Newbie Forta Question


Get his books, they will be a great resource now and in the future...

-Original Message-
From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget


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Re: Newbie Forta Question

[Yvette Ingram]

Just to add to this, Mastering ColdFusion 4.5 is due out this month I
believe.


Yvette Ingram
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- Original Message -
From: Reynolds, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Newbie Forta Question


> I would actually suggest that the Mastering ColdFusion Book by Danesh is
> also worth reading. They have very different approaches to writing about
CF.
> I've got friends who I've lent both books to who have stated that the
Danesh
> book is easier going if you are starting out.
>
> The Forta books approach subjects in a much more thorough sectioned way
> though and I use them as a reference when I need to examine an aspect of
CF.
> I do not look at the Danesh book anymore.
>
> I would suggest though that any book on CF is worthwhile purchasing. The
> Danesh book is good 'course' book, whereas I feel the Forta books are
> essential reference books.
>
>
> Adam Reynolds
> ColdFusion Consultant
> HJ Heinz
> Tel: 01344 397016  Fax: 01344 397010
> Mobile: 07973 386620
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > --
> > From: James Mathieson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 18 May 2000 15:20
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Newbie Forta Question
> >
> > Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the CFWACK
> > has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
> > importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which is
> > something often lacking in programming books...
> >
> > So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great investment.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > James~
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> >
> >
> > I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF,
but
> > basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> > wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> > Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
> > have
> > worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
> > just
> > wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> > Thanks,
> > Bridget
> >
>
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Re: Newbie Forta Question

[Kevin Merker]

Get this one, when I was totally new to CF my first book was Mastering CF by Danesh. I 
thought it sucked at the time because demo code was buggy an I didn't have enough of 
the basic
understanding of CF. Now that I have reached the next plateau of understanding the 
book moves right with Forta's books. I'll read the same topic in both books and the 
understanding
and perspective of both authors opens doors of understanding for me.

Jennifer wrote:

> I agree. I have Mastering CF and the two Forta books. I had the Forta books
> first and I was confused about some things. When I got the Mastering book,
> my questions were answered. If you have to learn ColdFusion as quickly as
> possible but not as thoroughly as possible, Mastering is perfect. But you
> won't get the details or the techniques that you will get from the Forta
> books. The best bet is to get both and read the equivalent sections in
> both. That will give you the greatest benefits.
>
> At 03:50 PM 5/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
> >I would actually suggest that the Mastering ColdFusion Book by Danesh is
> >also worth reading. They have very different approaches to writing about CF.
> >I've got friends who I've lent both books to who have stated that the Danesh
> >book is easier going if you are starting out.
> >
> >The Forta books approach subjects in a much more thorough sectioned way
> >though and I use them as a reference when I need to examine an aspect of CF.
> >I do not look at the Danesh book anymore.
> >
> >I would suggest though that any book on CF is worthwhile purchasing. The
> >Danesh book is good 'course' book, whereas I feel the Forta books are
> >essential reference books.
> >
> >
> >Adam Reynolds
> >ColdFusion Consultant
> >HJ Heinz
> >Tel: 01344 397016  Fax: 01344 397010
> >Mobile: 07973 386620
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > --
> > > From: James Mathieson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 18 May 2000 15:20
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  RE: Newbie Forta Question
> > >
> > > Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the CFWACK
> > > has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
> > > importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which is
> > > something often lacking in programming books...
> > >
> > > So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great investment.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > James~
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
> > > basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> > > wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> > > Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
> > > have
> > > worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
> > > just
> > > wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bridget
> > >
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Ben Forta]

I am out here, and the Spectra book has shipped, so I'm hoping it'll be in
reader's hands by the end of the month. I hope.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:23 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Newbie Forta Question


I would buy it.

...er... I _did_ buy it

ps If you're out there Ben, how's the spectra bible coming along?

Bert Dawson
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 May 2000 14:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie Forta Question
>
>
> I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple
> queries in CF, but
> basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web
> Application
> Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version
> for 4.5.  I have
> worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme
> differences so I just
> wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> Thanks,
> Bridget
>
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Raymond K. Camden]

You should read the platform preview @ Allaire.com. It talks about, albiet a
bit vaguely, the future of CF.

press release:
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=14862&Method=Full

real stuff: http://www.allaire.com/tech_roadmap/


===
Raymond Camden, Cold Fusion Jedi Master for Syntegra (www.syntegra.com)
Allaire Certified Instructor and Member of Team Allaire

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> -Original Message-
> From: Levi Wallach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 12:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Newbie Forta Question
>
>
> Some of us had the pleasure of hearing Ben talk about CF last night at the
> CFUGorama here in DC.  He actually fielded a question from someone about
> coming out with a 4.5 book and said that he was not planning to because of
> all the other books he was working on and the fact that the
> changes between
> 4 and 4.5 are not huge - at least for the basics of CF.  He also mentioned
> something about how the next version of CF would require
> rewriting the book
> from scratch, so it sounds like there are some big changes afoot for CF 5?
>
> 
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> >
> >
> > I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries
> in CF, but
> > basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> > wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> > Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for
> > 4.5.  I have
> > worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences
> > so I just
> > wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> > Thanks,
> > Bridget
> >
> > --
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Re: Newbie Forta Question

[Scott M. Berry]

Ben is not releasing a book for 4.5 since it is not a complete upgrade, his
4.0 books still cover 4.5.

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- Original Message -
From: "Bridget Corkery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:51 AM
Subject: Newbie Forta Question


> I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
> basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
have
> worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
just
> wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> Thanks,
> Bridget
>
> --

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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Jennifer]

I agree. I have Mastering CF and the two Forta books. I had the Forta books 
first and I was confused about some things. When I got the Mastering book, 
my questions were answered. If you have to learn ColdFusion as quickly as 
possible but not as thoroughly as possible, Mastering is perfect. But you 
won't get the details or the techniques that you will get from the Forta 
books. The best bet is to get both and read the equivalent sections in 
both. That will give you the greatest benefits.

At 03:50 PM 5/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
>I would actually suggest that the Mastering ColdFusion Book by Danesh is
>also worth reading. They have very different approaches to writing about CF.
>I've got friends who I've lent both books to who have stated that the Danesh
>book is easier going if you are starting out.
>
>The Forta books approach subjects in a much more thorough sectioned way
>though and I use them as a reference when I need to examine an aspect of CF.
>I do not look at the Danesh book anymore.
>
>I would suggest though that any book on CF is worthwhile purchasing. The
>Danesh book is good 'course' book, whereas I feel the Forta books are
>essential reference books.
>
>
>Adam Reynolds
>ColdFusion Consultant
>HJ Heinz
>Tel: 01344 397016  Fax: 01344 397010
>Mobile: 07973 386620
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > --
> > From: James Mathieson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 18 May 2000 15:20
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  RE: Newbie Forta Question
> >
> > Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the CFWACK
> > has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
> > importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which is
> > something often lacking in programming books...
> >
> > So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great investment.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > James~
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> >
> >
> > I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
> > basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> > wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> > Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
> > have
> > worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
> > just
> > wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> > Thanks,
> > Bridget
> >
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Levi Wallach]

Some of us had the pleasure of hearing Ben talk about CF last night at the
CFUGorama here in DC.  He actually fielded a question from someone about
coming out with a 4.5 book and said that he was not planning to because of
all the other books he was working on and the fact that the changes between
4 and 4.5 are not huge - at least for the basics of CF.  He also mentioned
something about how the next version of CF would require rewriting the book
from scratch, so it sounds like there are some big changes afoot for CF 5?


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> -Original Message-
> From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie Forta Question
>
>
> I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
> basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for
> 4.5.  I have
> worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences
> so I just
> wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> Thanks,
> Bridget
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[jeff tapper]

Last I heard the book should be on the shelves in the next week or so.

At 03:22 PM 5/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
>ps If you're out there Ben, how's the spectra bible coming along?

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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Reynolds, Adam]

I would actually suggest that the Mastering ColdFusion Book by Danesh is
also worth reading. They have very different approaches to writing about CF.
I've got friends who I've lent both books to who have stated that the Danesh
book is easier going if you are starting out.

The Forta books approach subjects in a much more thorough sectioned way
though and I use them as a reference when I need to examine an aspect of CF.
I do not look at the Danesh book anymore.

I would suggest though that any book on CF is worthwhile purchasing. The
Danesh book is good 'course' book, whereas I feel the Forta books are
essential reference books.


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> From: James Mathieson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 May 2000 15:20
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Newbie Forta Question
> 
> Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the CFWACK
> has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
> importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which is
> something often lacking in programming books...
> 
> So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great investment.
> 
> Cheers,
> James~
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> 
> 
> I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
> basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
> Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
> have
> worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
> just
> wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> Thanks,
> Bridget
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Sean M. O'Brien]

Bridget,

Go get the ColdFusion 4.0 Web Application Construction Kit and the Advanced
Book from Ben Forta. Both are top notch quality books. Use those with your
documentation and the sky is the limit.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:52 AM
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Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget


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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Russel Madere]

Ditto!

Get them regardless of the version you are working on.  They are a great
resourse to fall back on.  I am using version 4.5.1 but the books are
excellent resourses.

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Get his books, they will be a great resource now and in the future...

-Original Message-
From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget


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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Bert Dawson]

I would buy it.

...er... I _did_ buy it

ps If you're out there Ben, how's the spectra bible coming along?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 May 2000 14:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie Forta Question
> 
> 
> I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple 
> queries in CF, but
> basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
> wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web 
> Application
> Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version 
> for 4.5.  I have
> worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme 
> differences so I just
> wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
> Thanks,
> Bridget
> 
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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[James Mathieson]

Yes! I'm new to CF, too, and I can't tell you how many times the CFWACK
has helped me out. The book is filled with good examples, but more
importantly, I've found the writing to be very "user-friendly", which is
something often lacking in programming books...

So by all means, pick up a copy of the CFWACK, it's a great investment.

Cheers,
James~

-Original Message-
From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I
have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I
just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget

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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Michael Doyle]

Yes yes yes!  Get BF's CF4.0 Book.  It is THE standard reference -
particularly for learning CF.  By the by, he is not planning to write a new
book for 4.5 [Or so I read here on CF-Talk from a poster who called himself
"Ben Forta" :-)]

While you are at it you might want to get his Advanced CF4.0 book as well -
so you can really tear it up!

Gordie
Mike "Gordie" Doyle
ColdFusion Web Developer
eTour.com


-Original Message-
From: Bridget Corkery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget


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RE: Newbie Forta Question

[Clint Tredway]

Get his books, they will be a great resource now and in the future...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Forta Question


I'm just getting started with CF.  I have built simple queries in CF, but
basically have just touched the surface of it's capabilities.  I am
wondering if I should go ahead and purchase Forta's 4.0 Web Application
Construction Kit, or if anyone has heard of a newer version for 4.5.  I have
worked in 4.0 and 4.5 and haven't noticed any extreme differences so I just
wanted some advice regarding my purchase.  I would love any insight!
Thanks,
Bridget


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