Re: Resource Bundle editors [bayes SPAMTRAP] [bayes SPAMTRAP]

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Hastings
Bobby Hartsfield wrote:

From what I've seen with the Eclipse plugin, you can type/paste/view the
 characters on the editor side just fine but when you view the files, they
 are all escaped. You can change the prefs to either convert or not convert
 as well.

the last version i looked at had the option (maybe was default) to save as 
utf-8 
encoded files. if i recall correctly, somebody blew up a set of rb i had built 
(using rbManager) with it. if you've ever made an existing app i18n, you know 
how dreary a job creating rb is, so anything that even has the chance of 
breaking that just plain sucks in my opinion.

 view the contents of the files, it is \u00F1
 
 Is that what you mean when you say that Java expects them to be escaped?

yup. makes them highly portable (or it's just how it was done once  now it's 
too late to change ;-).

btw i forgot to mention that rbManager has fairly extensive management 
functionality for trackng what's been translated, by whom, when, etc. as well 
as 
a reporting tool which helps on large/complex projects. and i just looked at 
attesoro's site  most of his complaints against rbManager involves importing 
other rb into it (because of the fairly extensive management functionality).


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Re: Resource Bundle editors [bayes SPAMTRAP] [bayes SPAMTRAP]

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Hastings
oops, i forgot that jason sheedy's also got an rb management tool:

http://www.jmpj.net/jason/page.cfm/RbMan2

it's flex based so it won't right now handle RTL (arabic, hebrew, etc.).

he also has a pure cf based one:

http://www.jmpj.net/rbman/

but i think he ditched that for the flex version.


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RE: Resource Bundle editors [bayes SPAMTRAP] [bayes SPAMTRAP]

2008-08-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
 if you've ever made an existing app i18n, you know 
 how dreary a job creating rb is

Nope, this is my first true i18n venture and I was actually planning to look
you up again soon :-)

But I do know what you mean about dreary. I am actually converting the
format of existing files now ...which is no less dreary than creating them
from scratch... believe me 

 yup. makes them highly portable

Perfect!

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Subject: Re: Resource Bundle editors [bayes SPAMTRAP] [bayes SPAMTRAP]

Bobby Hartsfield wrote:

From what I've seen with the Eclipse plugin, you can type/paste/view the
 characters on the editor side just fine but when you view the files, they
 are all escaped. You can change the prefs to either convert or not convert
 as well.

the last version i looked at had the option (maybe was default) to save as
utf-8 
encoded files. if i recall correctly, somebody blew up a set of rb i had
built 
(using rbManager) with it. if you've ever made an existing app i18n, you
know 
how dreary a job creating rb is, so anything that even has the chance of 
breaking that just plain sucks in my opinion.

 view the contents of the files, it is \u00F1
 
 Is that what you mean when you say that Java expects them to be escaped?

yup. makes them highly portable (or it's just how it was done once  now
it's 
too late to change ;-).

btw i forgot to mention that rbManager has fairly extensive management 
functionality for trackng what's been translated, by whom, when, etc. as
well as 
a reporting tool which helps on large/complex projects. and i just looked at

attesoro's site  most of his complaints against rbManager involves
importing 
other rb into it (because of the fairly extensive management
functionality).




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