RE: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread Stewart McGowan

I would always put as much of the more complicated SQL on the server as
possible. 
Its designed to handle it. I very rarely have more than simple SELECTs in my
CF.
Also if you have a good DBA he'll optimise the queries much better than the 
application developer would in CF.

Just my view of course :)

Regards


Stew
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RE: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread DeVoil, Nick

 Can someone explain, in general if possible when the best time to use
 SQL Server views/storedProdedures/triggers VS. CF Queries?

Use Stored Procedures wherever you can. They're usually quicker than
plain CF queries, sometimes enormously so, and help to modularise your
code, which is always good.

Triggers don't do much for you that SP's can't, but they're simpler.
Personally I'm not a big user of views.

Nick


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Re: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Any time you run the same SQL over and over and over again!  Itis much
faster than if you have CF retrieve the query everytime.

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 Can someone explain, in general if possible when the best time to use SQL
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RE: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread Andy Ewings

Yup use SP's wherever poss.

I tend not to use views either.  I build temp tables in the SP or just
incorporate it into the SQL statement using various joins

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 Can someone explain, in general if possible when the best time to use
 SQL Server views/storedProdedures/triggers VS. CF Queries?

Use Stored Procedures wherever you can. They're usually quicker than
plain CF queries, sometimes enormously so, and help to modularise your
code, which is always good.

Triggers don't do much for you that SP's can't, but they're simpler.
Personally I'm not a big user of views.

Nick


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RE: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread Stewart McGowan

From the SQL server books online.

Stew



"The benefits of using stored procedures in SQL Server rather than SQL
programs stored locally on client computers are: 

They allow modular programming. 
You can create the procedure once, store it in the database, and call it any
number of times in your program. Stored procedures can be created by a
person who specializes in database programming, and they can be modified
independently of the program source code. 

They allow faster execution. 
If the operation requires a large amount of Transact-SQL code or is
performed repetitively, stored procedures can be faster than batches of
Transact-SQL code. They are parsed and optimized when they are created, and
an in-memory version of the procedure can be used after the procedure is
executed the first time. Transact-SQL statements repeatedly sent from the
client each time they run are compiled and optimized every time they are
executed by SQL Server. 

They can reduce network traffic. 
An operation requiring hundreds of lines of Transact-SQL code can be
performed through a single statement that executes the code in a procedure,
rather than by sending hundreds of lines of code over the network. 

They can be used as a security mechanism. 
Users can be granted permission to execute a stored procedure even if they
do not have permission to execute the procedure's statements directly."
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RE: SQL advice please

2000-11-17 Thread Gary Davidson

Don't rule out views guys, they provide great management, security and
performance. SQL 2000 has added indexed and portioned views.

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Yup use SP's wherever poss.

I tend not to use views either.  I build temp tables in the SP or just
incorporate it into the SQL statement using various joins

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Subject: RE: SQL advice please


 Can someone explain, in general if possible when the best time to use
 SQL Server views/storedProdedures/triggers VS. CF Queries?

Use Stored Procedures wherever you can. They're usually quicker than
plain CF queries, sometimes enormously so, and help to modularise your
code, which is always good.

Triggers don't do much for you that SP's can't, but they're simpler.
Personally I'm not a big user of views.

Nick


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