RE: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-29 Thread Martin Parry
You can most certainly store the datasource in an application variable.

Assuming you have a whole bunch of app vars that you will be using
throughout your application. Andrew is correct in what he is saying
about using request scope as you don't need to lock the application
scope EVERY time you want to use it.

Instead you can use something like:-

cflock scope=APPLICATION type=READONLY timeout=10
throwontimeout=Yes
cfset Request.Application = duplicate(Application)
/cflock

Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Grosset [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 December 2004 05:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource

Unless it's really necessary I would try not to set datasource
as an application variable, either:

cfset datasource=CODAGenomics

or

cfset request.datasource=CODAGenomics

Andrew.


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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-29 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Since the advent of CFMX 6.1, the Macromedia specs state (no time to
find a URL, it's moving day 3) that shared-scope variables that will
be set once and contain a static value (i.e. static data available to
the entire app... like a DSN) do not need to be locked. Race
conditions and deadlocks were eliminated, so the only reason to use a
lock is to prevent data corruption... as long as your DSN isn't going
to change there isn't a reason to lock it.

At least according (I believe this is where it is) the LiveDoc for the
cflock tag under 6.1.

Also, even tho I'm sure this has already been stated, setting an
application variable in a cfparam tag is a fine idea, but changing the
default isn't going to change the value until you've deleted the
original... because application variables are persistent, and because
the cfparam tag doesn't fire to create the var unless it doesn't
already exists, the only way to change the value is either to delete
it... or, something I've done often is to put a cfif in
application.cfm that looks for a URL variable to fire off some CFSETs:

cfif isDefined(URL.reloadAppScope)
cflock scope=application type=exclusive timeout=20
cfset application.appVar1 = 1
{more cfset tags to write your app vars}
/cflock
/cfif

And that's my own two cents...

Laterz,
J


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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:50:30 -, Martin Parry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can most certainly store the datasource in an application variable.
 
 Assuming you have a whole bunch of app vars that you will be using
 throughout your application. Andrew is correct in what he is saying
 about using request scope as you don't need to lock the application
 scope EVERY time you want to use it.
 
 Instead you can use something like:-
 
 cflock scope=APPLICATION type=READONLY timeout=10
 throwontimeout=Yes
 cfset Request.Application = duplicate(Application)
 /cflock
 
 Martin Parry
 Macromedia Certified Developer
 http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Grosset [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 December 2004 05:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource
 
 Unless it's really necessary I would try not to set datasource
 as an application variable, either:
 
 cfset datasource=CODAGenomics
 
 or
 
 cfset request.datasource=CODAGenomics
 
 Andrew.

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RE: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-29 Thread Dave Watts
 Assuming you have a whole bunch of app vars that you will be using
 throughout your application. Andrew is correct in what he is saying
 about using request scope as you don't need to lock the application
 scope EVERY time you want to use it.

 Instead you can use something like:-

 cflock scope=APPLICATION type=READONLY timeout=10
 throwontimeout=Yes
   cfset Request.Application = duplicate(Application)
 /cflock

While you can do this, in my experience this causes a terrible performance
degradation in applications with moderate or heavy use.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444


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RE: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-29 Thread Dave Watts
 Unless it's really necessary I would try not to set datasource
 as an application variable, either:

 cfset datasource=CODAGenomics

 or

 cfset request.datasource=CODAGenomics

In general, I agree with this. If the value of a variable won't change
during the operation of an application and the variable contains a simple
value, there's little value in storing it persistently beyond a single page
request, since there's very little cost involved in simply recreating it on
every page request as needed.

However, if you're using CFMX it really doesn't make any significant
difference one way or the other, and even with previous versions it usually
didn't as long as you were careful to create the variable once but never
write to it again.

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fax: 202-797-5444


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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-28 Thread Larry White
This is kind of dangerous unless you use cflocks properly, and
cflocking the application scope can slow things down. The reason
is if somewhere in your app you change the application.datsource from 
CODAGenomics to something else, which you've indicated happens,
any other user loading a page will change it right back to 
CODAGenomics. 


Well, that worked, TNX very much. 

When is cfparam appropriate?? 

-Original Message-
From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource

Instead of this 

cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics

use this

cfset Application.datasource = CODAGenomics


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:12:36 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Not sure what that has to do with locks.  Nothing at all as far as I can tell.

I'd hope the entire application uses the same datasource.  If you need
a second one, just set application.otherdb = 'whatever'

-Cameron


On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:27:35 -0400, Larry White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is kind of dangerous unless you use cflocks properly, and
 cflocking the application scope can slow things down. The reason
 is if somewhere in your app you change the application.datsource from
 CODAGenomics to something else, which you've indicated happens,
 any other user loading a page will change it right back to
 CODAGenomics.
 
 
 Well, that worked, TNX very much.
 
 When is cfparam appropriate??
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource
 
 Instead of this
 
 cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics
 
 use this
 
 cfset Application.datasource = CODAGenomics
 
 
 On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:12:36 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 

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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-28 Thread Andrew Grosset
Unless it's really necessary I would try not to set datasource
as an application variable, either:

cfset datasource=CODAGenomics

or

cfset request.datasource=CODAGenomics

Andrew.

I seem to have a sticky application variable. How do I get it to change?

The application.cfm file is:

cfapplication name=CBRLVer11 sessionmanagement=Yes
clientmanagement=Yes SESSIONTIMEOUT=#CREATETIMESPAN(0,8,0,0)# 
cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics
cfparam name=Application.name default=CODA

All the queries use:

   cfquery datasource=#application.datasource# name=xxx

So, when I changed the application.datasource default value, the related
scripts
Still bring up the old value. 

Have tried clearing the browser cache, etc. etc.

Any idea why and how to fix?

TNX if you can shed some light on this problem.

Rick.

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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-27 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Instead of this 

cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics

use this

cfset Application.datasource = CODAGenomics


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:12:36 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I seem to have a sticky application variable. How do I get it to change?
 
 The application.cfm file is:
 
 cfapplication name=CBRLVer11 sessionmanagement=Yes
 clientmanagement=Yes SESSIONTIMEOUT=#CREATETIMESPAN(0,8,0,0)# 
 cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics
 cfparam name=Application.name default=CODA
 
 All the queries use:
 
cfquery datasource=#application.datasource# name=xxx
 
 So, when I changed the application.datasource default value, the related
 scripts
 Still bring up the old value.
 
 Have tried clearing the browser cache, etc. etc.
 
 Any idea why and how to fix?
 
 TNX if you can shed some light on this problem.
 
 Rick.
 
 

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RE: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-27 Thread Richard Colman
Well, that worked, TNX very much. 

When is cfparam appropriate?? 

-Original Message-
From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource

Instead of this 

cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics

use this

cfset Application.datasource = CODAGenomics


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:12:36 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I seem to have a sticky application variable. How do I get it to change?
 
 The application.cfm file is:
 
 cfapplication name=CBRLVer11 sessionmanagement=Yes
 clientmanagement=Yes SESSIONTIMEOUT=#CREATETIMESPAN(0,8,0,0)#  
 cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics 
 cfparam name=Application.name default=CODA
 
 All the queries use:
 
cfquery datasource=#application.datasource# name=xxx
 
 So, when I changed the application.datasource default value, the 
 related scripts Still bring up the old value.
 
 Have tried clearing the browser cache, etc. etc.
 
 Any idea why and how to fix?
 
 TNX if you can shed some light on this problem.
 
 Rick.
 
 



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Re: STICKY Application.datasource

2004-12-27 Thread Cameron Childress
cfparam is equivilant to

cfif not isDefined('application.datasource')
   cfset application.datasource = 'myDatasource'
/cfif

-Cameron


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:25:33 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, that worked, TNX very much.
 
 When is cfparam appropriate??
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Qasim Rasheed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: STICKY Application.datasource
 
 Instead of this
 
 cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics
 
 use this
 
 cfset Application.datasource = CODAGenomics
 
 On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:12:36 -0800, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I seem to have a sticky application variable. How do I get it to change?
 
  The application.cfm file is:
 
  cfapplication name=CBRLVer11 sessionmanagement=Yes
  clientmanagement=Yes SESSIONTIMEOUT=#CREATETIMESPAN(0,8,0,0)# 
  cfparam name=Application.datasource default=CODAGenomics
  cfparam name=Application.name default=CODA
 
  All the queries use:
 
 cfquery datasource=#application.datasource# name=xxx
 
  So, when I changed the application.datasource default value, the
  related scripts Still bring up the old value.
 
  Have tried clearing the browser cache, etc. etc.
 
  Any idea why and how to fix?
 
  TNX if you can shed some light on this problem.
 
  Rick.
 
 
 
 

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