Re: Stop View Source

2007-12-06 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 06 Dec 2007, Russ wrote:
 Right, but are there decompilers that decompile Flash 8+ based swfs back to
 ActionScript?

I've only seen one Flash 9 (AS2) decompiler, and it only got back to the ABC, 
not real actionscript. That was a few months ago though.

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-12-05 Thread Russ
Can they really?  I've had luck decompiling  Flash 7 files, but nothing
after Flash 8, although I haven't tried in a while.  Are there decent flash
decompilers out now that can decompile flex?

Russ



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 Subject: RE: Stop View Source
 
  Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using
  Flex.  Swf files are compiled...  :)
 
  and they can be decompiled.
 
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-12-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Oct 19, 2007 9:41 AM, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If by source, you mean HTML and JavaScript the short answer is no.
 There are things you can do (JS encryption, disable right click, etc.)
 but ultimately none of those are CF-related.  Since you cannot control
 the client (browser) there is no surefire way to stop anyone.

 Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using Flex.  Swf
 files are compiled...  :)

 ~Brad


The source code is meant to be sexy. In that if you view the source it's all
inline, indented and looks clean what would you want to hide? I see some
people who still choose to use HTML comments in their layout design because
it gives the reader a sense of where they are in the code which is difficult
to understand in todays css / div world.

View source is your friend, not enemy. If you want to hide origins of
things, call them using  cfsavecontent.


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RE: Stop View Source

2007-12-05 Thread Russ
Right, but are there decompilers that decompile Flash 8+ based swfs back to
ActionScript?  

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:45 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Stop View Source
 
 Flex is just a tool for generating swfs. The decompilers I've used can
 decompile it back to actionscript, but not back to it's MXML. That
 would be extremely difficult.
 
 On Oct 19, 2007 10:49 AM, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can they really?  I've had luck decompiling  Flash 7 files, but nothing
  after Flash 8, although I haven't tried in a while.  Are there decent
 flash
  decompilers out now that can decompile flex?
 
  Russ
 
 
 
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   Subject: RE: Stop View Source
  
Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using
Flex.  Swf files are compiled...  :)
  
    and they can be decompiled.
  
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-12-05 Thread Alan Rother
Flex is just a tool for generating swfs. The decompilers I've used can
decompile it back to actionscript, but not back to it's MXML. That
would be extremely difficult.

On Oct 19, 2007 10:49 AM, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can they really?  I've had luck decompiling  Flash 7 files, but nothing
 after Flash 8, although I haven't tried in a while.  Are there decent flash
 decompilers out now that can decompile flex?

 Russ



  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:45 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Stop View Source
 
   Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using
   Flex.  Swf files are compiled...  :)
 
   and they can be decompiled.
 
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RE: Stop View Source

2007-12-05 Thread Dave Watts
 Flex is just a tool for generating swfs. The decompilers I've 
 used can decompile it back to actionscript, but not back to 
 it's MXML. That would be extremely difficult.

There is no back to MXML - that gets converted to Actionscript, which is
then compiled to SWF bytecode.

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Re: Stop View Source 2

2007-10-20 Thread Brian Kotek
Correct. Can we let this drop now? I think the point has been driven into
the ground: you can't stop people from inspecting anything that is rendered
or processed in the browser. Let's move on, because somehow this thread just
won't die even though the point was made in the first reply.

On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks again for your replies. so i am judging by your responses that no
 one really does anything to protect their code as it is pointless? if
 someone wants to get it they will!

 

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-20 Thread Adrian Lynch
Ermm, how about taking a screen shot and sending the user a jpeg!
Everybody's happy :OD

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From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 October 2007 16:44
To: CF-Talk
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Nothing, repeat, nothing, you do can stop someone from viewing the HTML
source of a web page in the browser. The browser HAS to get the HTML in
order to render it. And if the browser has it, the user can look at it.

On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
 from viewing the page source code.

 I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we
 would go about doing it

 Thanks

 Richard


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Re: Stop View Source 2

2007-10-20 Thread Richard White
Ok thanks to everyone for helping me understand this

Richard 

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-20 Thread Matt Robertson
Richard, here is everything you need to know about protecting client-side
code and images:

http://www.digitalmidget.com/help/noclick/index.php

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Re: Stop View Source 2

2007-10-20 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Let's move on, because somehow this thread just won't die

Right. It's time to start a new one. How about coldFusion dying? ;-)

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brad Wood
If by source, you mean HTML and JavaScript the short answer is no.
There are things you can do (JS encryption, disable right click, etc.)
but ultimately none of those are CF-related.  Since you cannot control
the client (browser) there is no surefire way to stop anyone.

Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using Flex.  Swf
files are compiled...  :)

~Brad

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stop View Source

Hi,

I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
from viewing the page source code. 

I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how
we would go about doing it

Thanks

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Alan Rother
I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
from viewing the page source code.

This quote could be referring to our actual CF code. In that case, no
one can read your CF code without direct access to your server. By the
time it gets to the end user, it's pure HTML

If thats what he meant. Otherwise I agree with everyone else, trying
to protect your JS and HTML is a total waste of time. Keep in mind,
you are literally sending these files to people who visit your
website. When they go to it, your server intentionally sends them
copies of your JS and HTML and it gets stored on the users computer.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Crow T. Robot
I think that we have belted the point home that you cannot do what you want
to. :)  Maybe the next question would be why are you trying to do this, and
maybe there is an alternative way to tackle the problem?

On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
 from viewing the page source code.

 I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we
 would go about doing it

 Thanks

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brad Wood
You're not talking about the CFML code, are you?  It IS possible to
encrypt your ColdFusion code in the .cfm files, but I that can be
decrypted as well back into Java by anyone with access to the web
server.  (I'm thinking that is technically illegal though to decrypt
CFML).

Just wanted to clarify what you meant by page source code

~Brad

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Subject: Stop View Source

Hi,

I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
from viewing the page source code. 

I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how
we would go about doing it

Thanks

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Charlie Griefer
not to mention that the script only disables right-clicking.  doesn't
stop me from hitting 'View' - 'Page Source' on the menu.  Or from
digging thru my cache and pulling up the page locally.

On 10/19/07, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which works real well when I disable JS. ;)

 On 10/19/07, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here is a little script that I use.
 
  script language=JavaScript
  !--
  var message=;
  function clickIE() {if (document.all) {(message);return false;}}
  function clickNS(e) {if
  (document.layers||(document.getElementById!document.all)) {
  if (e.which==2||e.which==3) {(message);return false;}}}
  if (document.layers)
  {document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);document.onmousedown=clickNS;}
  else{document.onmouseup=clickNS;document.oncontextmenu=clickIE;}
  document.oncontextmenu=new Function(return false)
  // --
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  Richard White wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people 
   from viewing the page source code.
  
   I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how 
   we would go about doing it
  
   Thanks
  
   Richard
  
  
  
 
 

 

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Russ
Can't you decompile the applet and figure out how to decrypt the js?  

Russ



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 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:31 PM
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 Subject: Re: Stop View Source
 
  we will look into JS encryption
 
 I remember having developed an (almost) perfect way to hide Javascript
 code from a page.
 The idea was to encrypt it, send it encrypted as a string to a Java
 applet.
 This applet decrypted the script, and passed it to the browser for
 execution.
 
 It worked well with Netscape 4, IE 4, may be IE 5 also, but with more
 recent browsers,
 there is alwas a way to see the code after it has been decrypted.
 
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
 we will look into JS encryption

I remember having developed an (almost) perfect way to hide Javascript 
code from a page.
The idea was to encrypt it, send it encrypted as a string to a Java applet.
This applet decrypted the script, and passed it to the browser for 
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It worked well with Netscape 4, IE 4, may be IE 5 also, but with more 
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there is alwas a way to see the code after it has been decrypted.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Richard White
thanks again for your replies. so i am judging by your responses that no one 
really does anything to protect their code as it is pointless? if someone wants 
to get it they will! 

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Kotek
I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant. You can use Firebug to look at the
JavaScript that the browser is executing after the applet decrypts it. Not
to mention that plenty of people have security settings enabled that will
run JavaScript but not applets.

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 Can't you decompile the applet and figure out how to decrypt the js?

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Peterson, Chris
Heh, anything that gets sent to the browser can be inspected in fiddler
or even firebug.  And, if your applet or decryption process can be run
in the browser, someone can reverse engineer it to get at your code.
All you will protect yourself from are casual users, anyone with some
experience will be able to get at your code ;)

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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stop View Source

 we will look into JS encryption

I remember having developed an (almost) perfect way to hide Javascript 
code from a page.
The idea was to encrypt it, send it encrypted as a string to a Java
applet.
This applet decrypted the script, and passed it to the browser for 
execution.

It worked well with Netscape 4, IE 4, may be IE 5 also, but with more 
recent browsers,
there is alwas a way to see the code after it has been decrypted.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Crow T. Robot
What was the name of that site/URL a few years back where you had to hack
the page in order to get to the next page?

That was a fun little demonstration of security by obscurity.  Some of them
were pretty tricky.

wish I could remember the name

On 10/19/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just keep in mind, all you are doing is slowing someone down.  If they
 are determined, they will get your source code.

 Exactly, and another way to look at it is that any hiding scheme will
 only prevent
 those who hardly see a difference between a PC and a toaster from
 getting the code.
 In other words, it will only stops those who will never even try to see
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
 You can use Firebug to look at the
JavaScript that the browser is executing after the applet decrypts it.

Exact, but as I said, I developped this many years ago, by the times 
Netscape 4 was the master in the net, and there was no Firebug.

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RE: Stop View Source 2

2007-10-19 Thread Dave Watts
 thanks again for your replies. so i am judging by your 
 responses that no one really does anything to protect their 
 code as it is pointless? if someone wants to get it they will!

Yes, that is absolutely true for any client-side code.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Just keep in mind, all you are doing is slowing someone down.  If they
are determined, they will get your source code.

Exactly, and another way to look at it is that any hiding scheme will 
only prevent
those who hardly see a difference between a PC and a toaster from 
getting the code.
In other words, it will only stops those who will never even try to see 
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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Russ
Well actually I think the point about making your app in flex is a good
idea.  While there MAY be a way to decompile it at some point in the future,
I don't think there is one now.  

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Stop View Source
 
 I think that we have belted the point home that you cannot do what you
 want
 to. :)  Maybe the next question would be why are you trying to do this,
 and
 maybe there is an alternative way to tackle the problem?
 
 On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
  from viewing the page source code.
 
  I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how
 we
  would go about doing it
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Sorge
Again, nothing is perfect. There is always a way to view source.

Claude Schneegans wrote:
  Here is a little script that I use.

 This is a masterpiece of naivety ;-)
 It will only disable right click, but not View Source from the tool bar.
 Nor it will disable right click if Javascript is disabled.

   

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Kotek
In fact this is a perfect example. I'm in Gmail now and in the sidebar is an
add for a site called HTML-Protector dot com (not linking to them to avoid
giving them any Google ranking help). This site claims that it will totally
protect your web site, including making it impossible to get any of the
images, making it impossible to get a screenshot, and making it impossible
to decipher the HTML.

Total BS.

In 1 minute I was able to:

take a screenshot of the page
grab an image
look at the raw HTML (here's a sample)

tr
td style=padding-left: 40px; padding-right: 40px;
class=text12
  p align=justifyfont color=#33bu
font style=font-size: 11pt;You absolutely
CANNOT/font/ufont style=font-size: 11pt;:/font/bfont
style=font-size: 11pt;br/
/font
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/  /b
font color=#33View this page WITHOUT entering the test

passwordbr/
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/  /b
font color=#33Make ANY sense out of the HTML -- just try

clicking View  Source!br/
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/  /b
font color=#33View this page OFFLINE, or anywhere other
thanbr/

a href=http://www.html-protector.com/encrypt/sample.htm;
www.html-protector.com/encrypt/sample.htm/abr/
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/  /b
font color=#33Right-click ANYWHERE on this page, nor
highlight textbr/
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/
font color=#33span style=font-weight:
400;PRINT/span/font/bfont color=#33
this page - or even take a screenshot! (Certain Mozilla-based
browsers may override this)br/
br/

/fontbimg width=12 height=12 border=0
align=absmiddle src=images/bullet.gif/
/bRetrieve this page from your cache... It expires
IMMEDIATELY!/pp align=justifyfont color=#33



In other words, they're completely lying. They made it harder to do than a
non-obfuscated page, but it still only took about a minute to get around it.

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 You're missing the point I think. You aren't going to be able to stop
 people from looking at the source code for anything that the browser renders
 or processes (and that includes JavaScript). The browser has to be able to
 run it, and if the browser can run it, the user can look at it. There is no
 way around this.

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  Hi thanks for all your replies. Ok so the html is not possible but was
  interested in the fact that JS could be encrypted as we have noticed that CF
  code does not show but the JS along with comments does.
 
  we will look into JS encryption
 
  thanks
 
  

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Kotek
You're missing the point I think. You aren't going to be able to stop people
from looking at the source code for anything that the browser renders or
processes (and that includes JavaScript). The browser has to be able to run
it, and if the browser can run it, the user can look at it. There is no way
around this.

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 we will look into JS encryption

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Sorge
Nothing is perfect. I can always find a way to view source when they 
appear to have all avenues blocked.

Raymond Camden wrote:
 Which works real well when I disable JS. ;)

   


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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Richard White
Hi thanks for all your replies. Ok so the html is not possible but was 
interested in the fact that JS could be encrypted as we have noticed that CF 
code does not show but the JS along with comments does.

we will look into JS encryption

thanks 

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
And you can decompile a .swf. If you don't want someone to get it, then 
don't make it available. It's a catch-22, no way around it.

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Brad Wood wrote:
 If by source, you mean HTML and JavaScript the short answer is no.
 There are things you can do (JS encryption, disable right click, etc.)
 but ultimately none of those are CF-related.  Since you cannot control
 the client (browser) there is no surefire way to stop anyone.
 
 Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using Flex.  Swf
 files are compiled...  :)
 
 ~Brad
 
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 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people
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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people from 
 viewing the page source code.

either you're remembering incorrectly or you were being lied to :)

your CFML will be parsed out by the CF server and rendered into
HTML... but as far as the markup that's sent from the server to the
client... there's nothing that can be done.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 19 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using Flex.  Swf
 files are compiled...  :)

I've seen a half finished decompiler. It gets back to the ABC (abstract byte 
code) but not yet the MXML. I suspect too much information may have been 
removed to do that, but it's not certain by a long shot.

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Yep, I agree with Tom, if we're talking html then this is completely
impossible.

Rob

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On Friday 19 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Dave Watts
 Well, I guess one way would be to re-write your site using 
 Flex.  Swf files are compiled...  :)

 and they can be decompiled.

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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Ben Forta
Do you mean the browser view source option, where the client-side code
(HTML, JavaScript, CSS, etc.) can be seen? If so, then yes, there is one way
and one way only to prevent the source from being seen - simply disconnect
your web server from the Internet. Other than that, no.

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Hi,

I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people from
viewing the page source code. 

I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we
would go about doing it

Thanks

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Here is a little script that I use.

This is a masterpiece of naivety ;-)
It will only disable right click, but not View Source from the tool bar.
Nor it will disable right click if Javascript is disabled.

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 19 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a little script that I use.

 script language=JavaScript

NoScript extension for FireFox.
wget.

Beginning to see my point ?

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Kotek
Nothing, repeat, nothing, you do can stop someone from viewing the HTML
source of a web page in the browser. The browser HAS to get the HTML in
order to render it. And if the browser has it, the user can look at it.

On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 19 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 can stop people
 from viewing the page source code.

This is impossible (assuming you mean the HTML output).

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Sorge
Here is a little script that I use.

script language=JavaScript
!--
var message=;
function clickIE() {if (document.all) {(message);return false;}}
function clickNS(e) {if
(document.layers||(document.getElementById!document.all)) {
if (e.which==2||e.which==3) {(message);return false;}}}
if (document.layers)
{document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);document.onmousedown=clickNS;}
else{document.onmouseup=clickNS;document.oncontextmenu=clickIE;}
document.oncontextmenu=new Function(return false)
// --
/script

Richard White wrote:
 Hi,

 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people from 
 viewing the page source code. 

 I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we 
 would go about doing it

 Thanks

 Richard 


   

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread mac jordan
On 19/10/2007, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi thanks for all your replies. Ok so the html is not possible but was
 interested in the fact that JS could be encrypted as we have noticed that CF
 code does not show but the JS along with comments does.


As a matter of interest, why do you want to protect your javascript?


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RE: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Brad Wood
Just keep in mind, all you are doing is slowing someone down.  If they
are determined, they will get your source code.

~Brad

we will look into JS encryption


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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Which works real well when I disable JS. ;)

On 10/19/07, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a little script that I use.

 script language=JavaScript
 !--
 var message=;
 function clickIE() {if (document.all) {(message);return false;}}
 function clickNS(e) {if
 (document.layers||(document.getElementById!document.all)) {
 if (e.which==2||e.which==3) {(message);return false;}}}
 if (document.layers)
 {document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);document.onmousedown=clickNS;}
 else{document.onmouseup=clickNS;document.oncontextmenu=clickIE;}
 document.oncontextmenu=new Function(return false)
 // --
 /script

 Richard White wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people 
  from viewing the page source code.
 
  I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we 
  would go about doing it
 
  Thanks
 
  Richard
 
 
 

 

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Re: Stop View Source

2007-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
You mean the source in the browser or the CF source?

You can't stop people from viewing the generated HTML in the browser.

CF won't show up there as the server strips it out - unless you break something.

If you want to hide the CF code on the server itself, you can use the
encode command like (encrypt command line maybe, I forget), but that
encryption was cracked a long time ago. It will only keep honest
people honest.

On 10/19/07, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I remember reading something that said in ColdFusion we can stop people from 
 viewing the page source code.

 I would appreciate any help as to whether this is this possible and how we 
 would go about doing it

 Thanks

 Richard

 

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