RE: The Best Clustering Solution
We are doing basically the same thing. Although we haven't gone "live" yet, what we are doing is using the "web deploy" feature of Visual Sourcesafe to keep the servers up to date. Nothing goes on the servers that isn't checked into sourcesafe. All of the code is specified as "web projects" which allows the deploy functionality to be enabled and can deploy to multiple locations. In addition to this we use a utility called "robocopy" contained in the Windows NT Resource Kit, which Ben Forta recommended (see "Advanced ColdFusion 4.0 Application Development", pages 34, 48) to handle graphics or other items not kept in Visual Sourcesafe. The other respondents gave other methods and this is just another one to give you food for thought. regards, Tom > - Original Message - > From: "Paul's Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:18 PM > Subject: The Best Clustering Solution > > > > we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to > cluster them > > so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution > must > > include replication. > > Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include > replication and > I > > cannot find this software in its full version including replication > > anywhere. > > Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? > > Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? > > Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. > > Kind regards > > > > Paul > > === Tom Clark E-Commerce Application Developer Telect, Inc. Spokane, Washington When birds fly in the right formation, they need only half the effort. Even in nature, teamwork results in collective laziness. The information contained in this message is privileged and confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. Thank you. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: The Best Clustering Solution
Hi Paul, I've worked on a couple clustering solutions. We've resolved replication issues in the past by having a shared drive array that acts as a single source of code and Verity. It obviously requires an additional piece of hardware, but you can always use a shared drive off your database server (if your database server goes down your CF is usually hosed anyway right?). So that's replication... There are a couple ways you can go with clustering: a) hardware device (Coyotepoint, Cisco, F5, Foundry), or b) software (Windows 2000 Load Balancing, Coyotepoint). Obviously either choices come with +'s & -'s. If you're a strictly MS shop, MS has some great kb articles on their site that discuss your various options, all with a not so subtle M$ bent: http://search.microsoft.com/us/SearchMS25.asp?so=RECCNT&qu=clustering&boolea n=ALL&i=00&i=02&i=04&i=06&i=08&i=01&i=03&i=05&i=07&i=09&p=1&nq=NEW http://search.microsoft.com/us/SearchMS25.asp?so=RECCNT&qu=clustering&qu=loa d+balancing&boolean=ALL&i=00&i=02&i=04&i=06&i=08&i=01&i=03&i=05&i=07&i=09&p= 1&nq=WITHIN&fqu=*cluster Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. 617.350.0339 617.350.8884 66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Paul's Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:18 PM > Subject: The Best Clustering Solution > > > > we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to > cluster them > > so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution > must > > include replication. > > Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include > replication and > I > > cannot find this software in its full version including replication > > anywhere. > > Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? > > Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? > > Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. > > Kind regards > > > > Paul > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: The Best Clustering Solution
Round robin DNS is cheap and easy, but there are limitations to its usefulness. Round robin DNS does not give you fault tolerance, only load balancing. In round robin DNS, if one server in your two server cluster is down, half of your requests will go unanswered. Kevin >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/01 04:49PM >>> The cheapest way to do this would be setting up a round robin dns system, and then using win2k's File Replication Service. http://www.labmice.net/FileMgmt/FRS.htm A step up for replication would be Microsoft's new Application Server 2000, which I must say is tres' slick. http://www.microsoft.com/applicationcenter/ Win2k Advanced Server also offers load balancing which is not as easy as a round robin system, but is probably more efficient, at least that is what MS says ;-) I've done both, and not had a problem with either. jon - Original Message - From: "Paul's Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: The Best Clustering Solution > we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to cluster them > so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution must > include replication. > Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include replication and I > cannot find this software in its full version including replication > anywhere. > Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? > Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? > Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. > Kind regards > > Paul > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: The Best Clustering Solution
The cheapest way to do this would be setting up a round robin dns system, and then using win2k's File Replication Service. http://www.labmice.net/FileMgmt/FRS.htm A step up for replication would be Microsoft's new Application Server 2000, which I must say is tres' slick. http://www.microsoft.com/applicationcenter/ Win2k Advanced Server also offers load balancing which is not as easy as a round robin system, but is probably more efficient, at least that is what MS says ;-) I've done both, and not had a problem with either. jon - Original Message - From: "Paul's Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: The Best Clustering Solution > we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to cluster them > so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution must > include replication. > Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include replication and I > cannot find this software in its full version including replication > anywhere. > Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? > Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? > Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. > Kind regards > > Paul > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: The Best Clustering Solution
I don't know if it is the best, but we use the Cisco 11000 (formerly Arrowpoint cs150) smart content switch for load balancing and file replication. It uses a publish and subscribe model and works fine with IIS ftp server. We haven't tested it but the sitecopy at lyra.org looks interesting. http://www.lyra.org/sitecopy/ Lanny Udey Hofstra University >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, April 18, 2001 >>> we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to cluster them so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution must include replication. Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include replication and I cannot find this software in its full version including replication anywhere. Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. Kind regards Paul ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: The Best Clustering Solution
i seem to remember reading that cluster cats DID come with replication. check the docs again. chris olive, cio cresco technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crescotech.com -Original Message- From: Paul's Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: The Best Clustering Solution we have 2 Win2000 servers running CF applications and wish to cluster them so that they both are duplicates of each other. The clustering solution must include replication. Cluster Cats supplied with CF Enterprise does not include replication and I cannot find this software in its full version including replication anywhere. Which is the best solution for clustering just two servers? Is the solotion supplied by Microsoft any good? Any help would be appreciated as the subject is new to me. Kind regards Paul ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
