RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
You can also package any CF-rendered HTML and javascript into an AIR application. So in that way, you can use ColdFusion to create an Air Application. http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/11/8/Converting-ColdFusion-Web-Apps-To-AIR-Apps http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2007/11/cf_air_compiler.cfm http://cfair.riaforge.org/ Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? Remember that one can use a live CF rendered page directly within an HTML based AIR app just by using an iframe in the AIR app. In this use, the AIR runtime becomes a browser. On Dec 15, 2007 1:23 AM, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only connection HTML or Flash would have in the context of a web > page, is that the HTML/swf is requested from the server and CF might > have controlled what HTML or swf the server returned. AIR apps don't > request their pages from the server-- they are predetermined and > compiled into the app, AIR simply populates the interfaces it has with > data retrieved via it's web service calls. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294854 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Remember that one can use a live CF rendered page directly within an HTML based AIR app just by using an iframe in the AIR app. In this use, the AIR runtime becomes a browser. On Dec 15, 2007 1:23 AM, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only connection HTML or Flash would have in the context of a web > page, is that the HTML/swf is requested from the server and CF might > have controlled what HTML or swf the server returned. AIR apps don't > request their pages from the server-- they are predetermined and > compiled into the app, AIR simply populates the interfaces it has with > data retrieved via it's web service calls. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294852 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Gotcha.. Thanks for the explanation sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? > Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable > Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my > brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built > in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion > parser into AIR? You can't use ColdFusion to build the view, or interface, for AIR applications. And, I'm fairly certain that you never will be able to do this. You can, however, have your AIR applications call CF web services. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Air is client side. ColdFusion is server side. In the sane way your web browser does not parse ColdFusion, neither do AIR apps. They are front-end/client only. Think of an AIR app as an AJAX/DHTML web page, or a Flex-built flash application. Both of those operate in a browser and are independent of any server-side language. AIR is the same thing, but it is precompiled as a stand-alone executable on the users pc. It has the same interaction with ColdFusion (or PHP, or ASP, or JSP) as a web page would-- through web service calls. The only connection HTML or Flash would have in the context of a web page, is that the HTML/swf is requested from the server and CF might have controlled what HTML or swf the server returned. AIR apps don't request their pages from the server-- they are predetermined and compiled into the app, AIR simply populates the interfaces it has with data retrieved via it's web service calls. Hope that helps. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion parser into AIR? Color me confused but curious ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Scott, Air has it's own language for development - scripting very like actionscript. It doesn't parse CF tags. It doesn parse JSP tags or PHP tags either. It's not designed as a "many language-single runtime" engine (ala ..NET). However, just like Flex, CF is a great back end for AIR to use in interactions with other services like databases and external files etc. -mark -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion parser into AIR? Color me confused but curious -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? How do you mean "doesn't work with CF"? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294798 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
> Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable > Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my > brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built > in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion > parser into AIR? You can't use ColdFusion to build the view, or interface, for AIR applications. And, I'm fairly certain that you never will be able to do this. You can, however, have your AIR applications call CF web services. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
AIR apps are indeed desktop apps. But most AIR apps also need back-end integration (to get to data, send e-mail, authenticate logins ... everything CF is used for). And ColdFusion can indeed be the back-end for an AIR app, allowing communication via Web Services, Flash Remoting, as well as via Data Services. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion parser into AIR? Color me confused but curious -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? How do you mean "doesn't work with CF"? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294797 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Webservices pull back data and you display via javascript. On Dec 14, 2007 10:52 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Care to explain? > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > > SSTWebworks > 4405 Oakshyre Way > Raleigh, NC. 27616 > (919) 874-6229 (home) > (703) 220-2835 (cell) > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Care to explain? -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? Very wrong :) -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Meaning that the purpose behind AIR is to make portable Desktop apps out of web apps (as I understand it, from my brief research). When you do this don't you negate any built in ColdFusion functionality. Or have they built a ColdFusion parser into AIR? Color me confused but curious -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? How do you mean "doesn't work with CF"? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294789 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
> From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with > ColdFusion yet.. Sure it does. AIR can invoke web services written in CF. That's all the "working with CF" requires. We're currently building some AIR apps for our clients. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
How do you mean "doesn't work with CF"? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294786 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
Very wrong :) -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: To AIR or not to AIR? >From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any > of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to > run command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294787 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
>From what I understand, AIR really doesn't work with ColdFusion yet.. Am I wrong? sas -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: To AIR or not to AIR? You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any of > Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to run > command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide some > business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better your own > AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294785 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
On 12/13/07, d l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's why my focus is on UI, presentation layer... and why I like CFAJAX > etc quite a bit... UI Eh? Wait till Thermo comes out... This thing is retarded. this and some cfc's are going to be pure butter. https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a300965365/p12022133/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294738 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Thanks for the input on its technicality, probably I'll be ok, used to write DOS batch files, even comfortable with Unix shell scripting, cshell? kshell? More likely the former... But I won't have competitive advantage getting back to heavy javascripting if AIR requires that (ADOBE docs haven't answered that question) since I haven't done that for over two and a half years, that's why my focus is on UI, presentation layer... and why I like CFAJAX etc quite a bit... For those who don't consider this thread strictly CF my apologies and pls ignore, yes, I've checked out AIR mailing list, however, not very active, hence, much lower probability of getting quick and quality answer... >As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least >the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any of >Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to run >command line. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Are you 'miniking' my time management app, http://www.mytata.net/, probably not, more likely coincidence, google "measure time management" see what you get... >Here is an AIR app/widget we created specifically for a business need. > >http://timer.vertabase.com > >Its to track time on projects or to track time on clients. > >-Mark > >Vertabase 4 >Project Management Made Easy >Adobe Solution Partner >http://www.vertabase.com > > > >> I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide >> some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better >> your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). >> >> Thank you. >> >> P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Thanks for your input. >You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. > >Steve "Cutter" Blades >Adobe Certified Professional >Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Here is an AIR app/widget we created specifically for a business need. http://timer.vertabase.com Its to track time on projects or to track time on clients. -Mark Vertabase 4 Project Management Made Easy Adobe Solution Partner http://www.vertabase.com > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
Here is an AIR app/widget we created specifically for a business need. http://timer.vertabase.com Its to track time on projects or to track time on clients. -Mark Vertabase 4 Project Management Made Easy Adobe Solution Partner http://www.vertabase.com > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide > some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better > your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294733 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: To AIR or not to AIR?
You can create HTML AIR applications using the SDK and the Aptana IDE. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Andy Matthews wrote: > As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least > the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any of > Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to run > command line. > > -Original Message- > From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? > > I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide some > business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better your own > AIR app (hopefully not too slow). > > Thank you. > > P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
As far as I understand, to create an AIR application, you must have at least the AIR SDK from Adobe. You don't have to create an AIR app using any of Adobes TOOLS, but to build it requires the SDK which you'd have to run command line. -Original Message- From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). Thank you. P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: To AIR or not to AIR?
You might want to ask the AIR mailing list... http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/adobe-integrated-runtime/ ~Brad -Original Message- From: d l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: To AIR or not to AIR? I know I need air but do I need Adobe's AIR or not? Please provide some business case other than the Adobe's sample app links, and better your own AIR app (hopefully not too slow). Thank you. P.S. I don't have FLEX nor graphics designer's background. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294728 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
