RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Patricia Lee

Well considering I work for an office where graphic designers use UltraDev
on a regular basis and we teach macromedia courses, including ultradev...
it's rather understandable that I have access to both, now isn't it?

moving on

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|Subject: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:
|
|
|UltraDev 4 at US$600 for page layout (must be rich) and CF 
|Studio at US$495 for code (the latter I can understand).
|
|By the way - according to Allaire's "purchase" page it is now 
|called "Macromedia ColdFusion" - erk.
|
|
|
|not really.
|
|I use Ultradev to edit my page layout, not to code.  I feel 
|safe (with about
|a 10% reservation factor) using Ultradev with code that has 
|been riddled
|with CF code.  I've only seen a small percentage of F***ups 
|since Ultradev
|4.
|
|When I decide in the middle of things that my table needs 5 
|more colmns, 3
|additional rowspans and a few more nested form elemetns, I 
|just might try it
|in UD first.  However, it can't beat CFStudio for pure raw 
|coding in this
|girls opinion.
|
|
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Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Jon Hall

Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it. As
much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page, I
really cant afford that!

jon
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> UltraDev 4 at US$600 for page layout (must be rich) and CF Studio at
US$495 for code (the latter I can understand).
>
> By the way - according to Allaire's "purchase" page it is now called
"Macromedia ColdFusion" - erk.
>
>
>
> not really.
>
> I use Ultradev to edit my page layout, not to code.  I feel safe (with
about
> a 10% reservation factor) using Ultradev with code that has been riddled
> with CF code.  I've only seen a small percentage of F***ups since Ultradev
> 4.
>
> When I decide in the middle of things that my table needs 5 more colmns, 3
> additional rowspans and a few more nested form elemetns, I just might try
it
> in UD first.  However, it can't beat CFStudio for pure raw coding in this
> girls opinion.
>
>
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Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread zac

Jon Hall wrote:

> Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it. As
> much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page, I
> really cant afford that!

Why wouldn't you just use the table builder in CF Studio? Or create a
snippet of common table defs in a project?

-- 

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utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
we choose correctly.

   
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RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Arden Weiss

Now let me think -- Most of you bought a $20,000 car to drive to work in 
and you're complaining about spending $1,000 for a product(s) so you can 
pay for your car -- get real  <:--))

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Whoof...
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-Original Message-
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Sent:   Thursday, March 29, 2001 5:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

UltraDev 4 at US$600 for page layout (must be rich) and CF Studio at US$495 for code 
(the latter I can understand).

By the way - according to Allaire's "purchase" page it is now called "Macromedia 
ColdFusion" - erk.



not really.

I use Ultradev to edit my page layout, not to code.  I feel safe (with about
a 10% reservation factor) using Ultradev with code that has been riddled
with CF code.  I've only seen a small percentage of F***ups since Ultradev
4.

When I decide in the middle of things that my table needs 5 more colmns, 3
additional rowspans and a few more nested form elemetns, I just might try it
in UD first.  However, it can't beat CFStudio for pure raw coding in this
girls opinion.
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Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Jon Hall

Insert/Table/ 4 rows 3 columns. done. That's why I use it. I'm not saying
anyone else should. Everyone codes differently. For me though, time is the
most important factor. This is the fastest way I have figured out to do lay
out tables.

Now that I think about it. Tables are a really boring topic.
I'm outta here

jon
- Original Message -
From: "zac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> Jon Hall wrote:
>
> > Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it.
As
> > much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page,
I
> > really cant afford that!
>
> Why wouldn't you just use the table builder in CF Studio? Or create a
> snippet of common table defs in a project?
>
> --
>
> Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
> utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
> we choose correctly.
>
>
> Woody Allen
>
>
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>
>
>
~~
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RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Erika L Walker

I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with every
post... :)

>>>Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
we choose correctly.

Woody Allen

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>>>>


Erika

-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


Insert/Table/ 4 rows 3 columns. done. That's why I use it. I'm not saying
anyone else should. Everyone codes differently. For me though, time is the
most important factor. This is the fastest way I have figured out to do lay
out tables.

Now that I think about it. Tables are a really boring topic.
I'm outta here

jon
- Original Message -
From: "zac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> Jon Hall wrote:
>
> > Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it.
As
> > much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page,
I
> > really cant afford that!
>
> Why wouldn't you just use the table builder in CF Studio? Or create a
> snippet of common table defs in a project?
>
> --
>
> Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
> utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
> we choose correctly.
>
>
> Woody Allen
>
>
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>
>
>
~~
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RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Scott, Andrew

Some email clients allow this, others do not!!!


-Original Message-
From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 March 2001 15:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with every
post... :)

>>>Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
we choose correctly.

Woody Allen

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>>>>


Erika

-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


Insert/Table/ 4 rows 3 columns. done. That's why I use it. I'm not saying
anyone else should. Everyone codes differently. For me though, time is the
most important factor. This is the fastest way I have figured out to do lay
out tables.

Now that I think about it. Tables are a really boring topic.
I'm outta here

jon
- Original Message -
From: "zac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> Jon Hall wrote:
>
> > Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it.
As
> > much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page,
I
> > really cant afford that!
>
> Why wouldn't you just use the table builder in CF Studio? Or create a
> snippet of common table defs in a project?
>
> --
>
> Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
> utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
> we choose correctly.
>
>
> Woody Allen
>
>
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>
>
>
~~
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Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread zac

Erika L Walker wrote:

> I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with every
> post... :)

Entourage (and the ever lovable Claris eMailer before that) has a random sig
function that lets you specify that the app picks a sig from one of the list
of available sigs.  I have about 70 at the moment.

Its actually the #1 criteria I have for an email client.

--

   The only way to understand what mathematics means
   by infinity is to contemplate the extent of
   human stupidity.

   Voltaire


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RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread Steve Pierce

Pegasus email (free), www.pmail.com also support random sigs.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


Erika L Walker wrote:

> I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with
every
> post... :)

Entourage (and the ever lovable Claris eMailer before that) has a random sig
function that lets you specify that the app picks a sig from one of the list
of available sigs.  I have about 70 at the moment.

Its actually the #1 criteria I have for an email client.

--

   The only way to understand what mathematics means
   by infinity is to contemplate the extent of
   human stupidity.

   Voltaire


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Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

2001-03-29 Thread James Smith

There is a piece of software called "sigfile" that will enable you to do
this with almost any mail client.

It runs in the background and every 30 seconds (or whatever value you set)
it writes a random signature (from a list you provide) to a text file and
because almost all mail clients (including Outlook Express) will allow you
to specify a text file as your signature this has the effect of randomising
your sig.

I cant remember whether it is free or shareware, and I can't remember where
I got it from, but at least you have a search string for altavista now :)

--
James Smith
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- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> Pegasus email (free), www.pmail.com also support random sigs.
>
>  - Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:
>
>
> Erika L Walker wrote:
>
> > I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with
> every
> > post... :)
>
> Entourage (and the ever lovable Claris eMailer before that) has a random
sig
> function that lets you specify that the app picks a sig from one of the
list
> of available sigs.  I have about 70 at the moment.
>
> Its actually the #1 criteria I have for an email client.
>
> --
>
>The only way to understand what mathematics means
>by infinity is to contemplate the extent of
>human stupidity.
>
>Voltaire
>
>
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>
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