RE: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-07 Thread Dave Watts
> As I understand it: pre-MX Verity is not a spider, and 
> only indexes FILES in the local file system. No CF parsing.

Spidering was introduced in the Verity version bundled with CF 5, actually.
But even without it, you can use Verity to index database content as well as
filesystem content.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-07 Thread A.Little
The CF5 Verity can spider (but only licensed to spider 'localhost'), but
only if you set up the K2 Verity server. Otherwise it (as you say) just
indexes the file system with no parsing.

Alex

> -Original Message-
> From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 March 2003 10:19
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Verity with Includes Problem
> 
> 
> As I understand it: pre-MX Verity is not a spider, and only 
> indexes FILES
> in the local file system. No CF parsing. It would probably be 
> better to
> have all major content in a database and use something like MSSQL's
> full-text indeces -- I have good experience with that.
> 
> 
> 
> Hugo
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-07 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
As I understand it: pre-MX Verity is not a spider, and only indexes FILES
in the local file system. No CF parsing. It would probably be better to
have all major content in a database and use something like MSSQL's
full-text indeces -- I have good experience with that.



Hugo



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RE: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-06 Thread Les Mizzell
Decision was just made to place all "searchable" content into a database -
with cell for content, another for page title and another for the link to
the appropriate page...

I didn't originally lay the site in question out, so the added delay on
launch ain't my fault!

Heh.

Thanks for the reply



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Re: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-06 Thread Stephen Moretti
Les,

Sounds like you need to do a mixture of a content index on your includes
folder as well as a custom index of a database table.

Your database needs to be able to tell the indexer the pages that reference
your included pages, then include this information in a custom field when
you index the includes folder.  When you do a search of the collection of
included pages, you can provide links to all the pages that include the
resulting page from the contents of the custom field in the index.

What you have to realise about Verity is that it is not a ColdFusion parser,
it is a text indexing and retrieval engine.  If you have a page that says
"", then that's what
verity will see.  It won't know that that is coldfusion and it should go
away and process the page, it just sees words to be indexed.

Hope this helps point you in the right direction.

Regards

Stephen
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- Original Message -
From: "Les Mizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: Verity with Includes Problem


> The more I think about this problem, the more I can't understand WHY
Verity
> would parse files to be indexed and NOT pull in content from "includes" in
> those files.
>
> Any thoughts on this? - or *IS* there a way to do it that I haven't
stumbled
> on yet?
>
> I guess we're all off to the MM Wishlist if anybody agrees with me!
>


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RE: Verity with Includes Problem

2003-03-06 Thread Les Mizzell
The more I think about this problem, the more I can't understand WHY Verity
would parse files to be indexed and NOT pull in content from "includes" in
those files.

Any thoughts on this? - or *IS* there a way to do it that I haven't stumbled
on yet?

I guess we're all off to the MM Wishlist if anybody agrees with me!

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