RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-12 Thread Dylan Bromby

it's a case of the best of the worst in my opinion.

i would stick with 98.

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Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on his win 98
box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of windows (WinME),
but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
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Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-12 Thread Howie Hamlin

I've heard that WinME is to be avoided.  We have one machine in our office (secretary) 
with WinME on it but I think that (believe it
or not) Win98 is more stable.  I personally use Win2K/Pro which is very good...

HTH,

Howie

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Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


> hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on his win 98
> box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of windows (WinME),
> but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-12 Thread Russel Madere

DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!

Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is really buggy.
Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he wants to keep
his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting Windows
ME.

Russel

> -Original Message-
> From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> his win 98
> box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> windows (WinME),
> but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
>
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Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-12 Thread tom muck

ME is a downgrade to 98.   Don't do it if you're doing any type of Web
development.  Upgrade to 2000 or don't upgrade.

tom

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> but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-12 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers

We use all 2000/NT workstations for development and such, but one division
of our company sells PCs and they are strongly recommending ME over
98...unless you have a need to run older/non-ME compliant applications.

ME does not allow applications to touch (and screw up) many system files.
Consequently, these application do not run on ME. I don't know if there is
really a difference in stability between the two or if is just a result of
this behavior, but ME seems quite a bit more stable than 98.

We've seen several ME machines lose the sound card drivers and there was a
bug with the recovery mechanism, but for the most part, it is fairly clean.
It has certainly resolved a lot of 98's outstanding issues (such as hung
shutdowns and uncommitted network changes).

Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

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Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


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Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread G

I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about window's ME
have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With windows 98,
I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder what some of
the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can cause such
drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as simple as some
people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
use is not nearly as intensive as work.

Brian
- Original Message -
From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


> DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
>
> Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is really buggy.
> Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he wants to keep
> his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
Windows
> ME.
>
> Russel
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> >
> >
> > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > his win 98
> > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > windows (WinME),
> > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> >
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Russel Madere

We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.

I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
systems I have deal with.

Russel

> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> window's ME
> have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> windows 98,
> I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
> easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
> about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> what some of
> the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> cause such
> drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> simple as some
> people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
> use is not nearly as intensive as work.
>
> Brian
> - Original Message -
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> >
> > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> really buggy.
> > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> wants to keep
> > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> Windows
> > ME.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > his win 98
> > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > windows (WinME),
> > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Ledwith, Brian

Dell sent me a laptop with NT4 preinstalled, on a FAT32 formatted drive,
making it blatantly obvious that manufacturers don't necessarily even boot a
computer before they ship it, so I'm not sure if I'd point the finger at
Compaq for the botched ME install on your Presario.

I recently bought a new home computer, and copies of 98se and 2000 with the
intention tossing the ME cd and create a dual boot system.  After 2 attempts
of installing and configuring 98, I ended up reinstalling ME.  Apache and CF
server work like a charm.  Granted, I haven't benchmarked the setup, it's
temporary, till a side project I'm working on is done.  Then I'll spend a
Saturday doing it right, 98 and/or 2000.

my .02

~bgl


-Original Message-
From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.

I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
systems I have deal with.

Russel

> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> window's ME
> have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> windows 98,
> I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
> easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
> about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> what some of
> the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> cause such
> drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> simple as some
> people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
> use is not nearly as intensive as work.
>
> Brian
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> >
> > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> really buggy.
> > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> wants to keep
> > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> Windows
> > ME.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > his win 98
> > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > windows (WinME),
> > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Tony Schreiber

I use Windows 2k for everything now, staying away from ME and XP.

> I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about window's ME
> have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With windows 98,
> I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
> easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
> about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder what some of
> the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can cause such
> drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as simple as some
> people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
> use is not nearly as intensive as work.
>
> Brian
> - Original Message -
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> >
> > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is really buggy.
> > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he wants to keep
> > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> Windows
> > ME.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > his win 98
> > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > windows (WinME),
> > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Stephen Galligan

Hi,

NT4.0 cannot be installed on a FAT32 partition as NT cannot natively
undertstand FAT32 partitions.  NT can only run on a FAT16 or an NTFS
partition.  WIN2k can however run on FAT32 and NTFS.  If you are running NT4
or Win2k then NTFS would make sense as it has far superior inherent security
features.

I personally would use win2k as my development platform - windoze 9*/ME just
don't cut the mustard!  BSODs are very rare sights when one uses Win2k.
ME/9* are not designed to be robust development OSs - they are for playing
games!

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Ledwith, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 July 2001 15:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


Dell sent me a laptop with NT4 preinstalled, on a FAT32 formatted drive,
making it blatantly obvious that manufacturers don't necessarily even boot a
computer before they ship it, so I'm not sure if I'd point the finger at
Compaq for the botched ME install on your Presario.

I recently bought a new home computer, and copies of 98se and 2000 with the
intention tossing the ME cd and create a dual boot system.  After 2 attempts
of installing and configuring 98, I ended up reinstalling ME.  Apache and CF
server work like a charm.  Granted, I haven't benchmarked the setup, it's
temporary, till a side project I'm working on is done.  Then I'll spend a
Saturday doing it right, 98 and/or 2000.

my .02

~bgl


-Original Message-
From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.

I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
systems I have deal with.

Russel

> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> window's ME
> have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> windows 98,
> I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
> easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
> about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> what some of
> the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> cause such
> drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> simple as some
> people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
> use is not nearly as intensive as work.
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> >
> > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> really buggy.
> > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> wants to keep
> > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> Windows
> > ME.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > his win 98
> > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > windows (WinME),
> > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Russel Madere



> -Original Message-
> From: Ledwith, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> Dell sent me a laptop with NT4 preinstalled, on a FAT32 formatted drive,
> making it blatantly obvious that manufacturers don't necessarily
> even boot a
> computer before they ship it, so I'm not sure if I'd point the finger at
> Compaq for the botched ME install on your Presario.

I'm not blaming Compac, I'm blaming Microsoft.  Even after our technician
reinstalled Windows ME, it still was one of the worst OSs we have run under
any sort of load.  On a comparable machine, the Windows 95 and 98 installs
were much more stable under similar loads.

>
> I recently bought a new home computer, and copies of 98se and
> 2000 with the
> intention tossing the ME cd and create a dual boot system.  After
> 2 attempts
> of installing and configuring 98, I ended up reinstalling ME.
> Apache and CF
> server work like a charm.  Granted, I haven't benchmarked the setup, it's
> temporary, till a side project I'm working on is done.  Then I'll spend a
> Saturday doing it right, 98 and/or 2000.

Since the ME machine is both a test and production machine, we are seriously
considering changing the OS.

>
> my .02
>
> ~bgl
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
> product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
> consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
> less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
> purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.
>
> I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
> systems I have deal with.
>
> Russel
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> >
> >
> > I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> > window's ME
> > have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> > home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> > windows 98,
> > I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the
> cleanest and
> > easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft
> land".  After
> > about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> > what some of
> > the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> > cause such
> > drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> > simple as some
> > people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit
> my home PC
> > use is not nearly as intensive as work.
> >
> > Brian
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> >
> >
> > > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> > >
> > > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> > really buggy.
> > > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> > wants to keep
> > > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> > Windows
> > > ME.
> > >
> > > Russel
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > > his win 98
> > > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > > windows (WinME),
> > > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
~~
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?

2001-07-13 Thread Ledwith, Brian

Thats exactly my point, that Dell installed an OS on a improperly formatted
harddrive.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Galligan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


Hi,

NT4.0 cannot be installed on a FAT32 partition as NT cannot natively
undertstand FAT32 partitions.  NT can only run on a FAT16 or an NTFS
partition.  WIN2k can however run on FAT32 and NTFS.  If you are running NT4
or Win2k then NTFS would make sense as it has far superior inherent security
features.

I personally would use win2k as my development platform - windoze 9*/ME just
don't cut the mustard!  BSODs are very rare sights when one uses Win2k.
ME/9* are not designed to be robust development OSs - they are for playing
games!

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Ledwith, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 July 2001 15:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


Dell sent me a laptop with NT4 preinstalled, on a FAT32 formatted drive,
making it blatantly obvious that manufacturers don't necessarily even boot a
computer before they ship it, so I'm not sure if I'd point the finger at
Compaq for the botched ME install on your Presario.

I recently bought a new home computer, and copies of 98se and 2000 with the
intention tossing the ME cd and create a dual boot system.  After 2 attempts
of installing and configuring 98, I ended up reinstalling ME.  Apache and CF
server work like a charm.  Granted, I haven't benchmarked the setup, it's
temporary, till a side project I'm working on is done.  Then I'll spend a
Saturday doing it right, 98 and/or 2000.

my .02

~bgl


-Original Message-
From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?


We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.

I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
systems I have deal with.

Russel

> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> window's ME
> have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> windows 98,
> I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the cleanest and
> easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft land".  After
> about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> what some of
> the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> cause such
> drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> simple as some
> people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit my home PC
> use is not nearly as intensive as work.
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> >
> > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> really buggy.
> > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> wants to keep
> > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> Windows
> > ME.
> >
> > Russel
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > his win 98
> > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > windows (WinME),
> > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME? (correction)

2001-07-13 Thread Ledwith, Brian

Sorry, Russel, I wrote it backwards...  I meant to say "...I'm not sure if
I'd point the finger at _Microsoft_ for the botched ME install..."

But hell, I certainly agree not to run ME on a production machine.  I
wouldnt even want to run it on our staging server.  Come to think of it, I
wouldnt want it on any development machine or server in my office.  I feel
it's a home product, and thats where it belongs.


-Original Message-
From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?




> -Original Message-
> From: Ledwith, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> Dell sent me a laptop with NT4 preinstalled, on a FAT32 formatted drive,
> making it blatantly obvious that manufacturers don't necessarily
> even boot a
> computer before they ship it, so I'm not sure if I'd point the finger at
> Compaq for the botched ME install on your Presario.

I'm not blaming Compac, I'm blaming Microsoft.  Even after our technician
reinstalled Windows ME, it still was one of the worst OSs we have run under
any sort of load.  On a comparable machine, the Windows 95 and 98 installs
were much more stable under similar loads.

>
> I recently bought a new home computer, and copies of 98se and
> 2000 with the
> intention tossing the ME cd and create a dual boot system.  After
> 2 attempts
> of installing and configuring 98, I ended up reinstalling ME.
> Apache and CF
> server work like a charm.  Granted, I haven't benchmarked the setup, it's
> temporary, till a side project I'm working on is done.  Then I'll spend a
> Saturday doing it right, 98 and/or 2000.

Since the ME machine is both a test and production machine, we are seriously
considering changing the OS.

>
> my .02
>
> ~bgl
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
>
>
> We got a Compac Presario system for our QA Engineer on which to test our
> product.  Right out of the box, the OS had to be reinstalled.  It has also
> consistantly been a problem OS.  Even out Windows 95 test boxes have been
> less troublesome.  I also installed it on my wife's computer after
> purchasing an upgrade.  After 2 days she demanded I reload Windows 98.
>
> I guess you have a good system for ME.  1Apparently it does not like the
> systems I have deal with.
>
> Russel
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:29 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> >
> >
> > I've found this very interesting.  Many reviews i've heard about
> > window's ME
> > have been negative like this one.  However, it has been a God-send on my
> > home PC.  Faster boots, fewer, as in almost none, reboots.  With
> > windows 98,
> > I was rebooting every couple of days.  It was also one of the
> cleanest and
> > easiest upgrades I've been subjected too while in "microsoft
> land".  After
> > about 6 months of use, I'm YET to find a single bug.  I wonder
> > what some of
> > the subtle differences and nuances are in these systems that can
> > cause such
> > drastically different results with this OS??? Perhaps it's as
> > simple as some
> > people test the limits of an OS more so than othersI admit
> my home PC
> > use is not nearly as intensive as work.
> >
> > Brian
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> >
> >
> > > DON'T INSTALL Windows ME!!
> > >
> > > Sorry to scream, but we have it on a test box here and it is
> > really buggy.
> > > Tell your friend to stick with Windows 98, especially if he
> > wants to keep
> > > his techie friends.  I have almost lost my religion troubleshooting
> > Windows
> > > ME.
> > >
> > > Russel
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Pooh Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: OT: Which OS to use? Win98 or WinME?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hey guys, i have a friend who is doing small development stuff on
> > > > his win 98
> > > > box.  He wants to upgrade to the latest consumer version of
> > > > windows (WinME),
> > > > but wants to know if WinMe was more buggy than win98!  thanx!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
~~
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