RE: cfeclipse and ftp
Sorry, I don't have any advice...I tried to get ftp working consistently in Eclipse/CFEclipse and I gave up. Got the same advice you did, but couldn't figure out how to get it to work consistently. I'm coming back to CFE after looking at other IDE's, but at the start, I'm just going to simplify my expectations and use FileZilla to upload changes. It's an extra step and definitely not as convenient as easily clicking a button to upload changes that are automatically designated in CFE as needed uploading, but at least I know how to get FileZilla to perform consistently. I had implemented WST or Web Site Tools, I think it was, to get FTP functionality. I thought implementing Aptana seemed like overkill too, just to use it for FTP. Just my .02... Rick -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfeclipse and ftp Hi we are just making the move from dreamweaver to cfeclipse and think its great!!! except the ftp doesnt seem to be as straight forward as it is in dreamweaver! we have seen that there are various ways of uploading files to our site but none of them seem to work through our cfeclipse and wonder what we are missing? first we tried to connect to our server using the file explorer... we clicked on locations -- entered the details of our server (all is definitely correct) and then save and closed the dialog box. we then select the site from the drop down box but it contains no files and doesnt provide a way for us to connect to it. we also found another tutorial on how to synchronize our files with our server by right clicking on the project node on the navigation tab and selecting 'import'. it then says to open the folder called 'other' and select the FTP option, but we don't have this option in the 'other' folder. the only option we have is 'remote file system' the third option we have read about is to use aptana. but this seems like overkill. why would we need such a large program just to upload files to our server. we would appreciate any advice on best option and what we are doing wrong, or what we are not doing but should be doing? thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310089 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfeclipse and ftp
I've always just used WebDrive to map my FTP servers to a local drive. That way it is easier to drag and drop images and junk over in regular windows explorer. Just disable the caching if several people are going to be using it for the same files. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Sorry, I don't have any advice...I tried to get ftp working consistently in Eclipse/CFEclipse and I gave up. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310090 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cfeclipse and ftp
Ouch... $60. Is it really easier than FileZilla if you have to go out to a separate interface anyway? -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfeclipse and ftp I've always just used WebDrive to map my FTP servers to a local drive. That way it is easier to drag and drop images and junk over in regular windows explorer. Just disable the caching if several people are going to be using it for the same files. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Sorry, I don't have any advice...I tried to get ftp working consistently in Eclipse/CFEclipse and I gave up. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfeclipse and ftp
I dunno-- I've never used FileZilla and my last job had purchased WebDrive for us. I'm not sure what you mean by separate interface. Once I map the drive, I just open the files in my IDE directly from that drive. Since it maps it as a regular drive, I also have the option of easily dragging stuff to and from the drive in windows and using Araxis Merge to compare code. You could probably get similar mileage out of a freeware version of the same thing. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Ouch... $60. Is it really easier than FileZilla if you have to go out to a separate interface anyway? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cfeclipse and ftp
Once I map the drive, I just open the files in my IDE directly from that drive. That would mean I'd be opening my files on my production server. Not a good choice for me, I'm not *that* good of a coder! :o) I want to test locally then move them to production. Is drag-n-drop from within the IDE between local files and the WebDrive possible in the Explorer tab? If so, that would be great. Rick -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfeclipse and ftp I dunno-- I've never used FileZilla and my last job had purchased WebDrive for us. I'm not sure what you mean by separate interface. Once I map the drive, I just open the files in my IDE directly from that drive. Since it maps it as a regular drive, I also have the option of easily dragging stuff to and from the drive in windows and using Araxis Merge to compare code. You could probably get similar mileage out of a freeware version of the same thing. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Ouch... $60. Is it really easier than FileZilla if you have to go out to a separate interface anyway? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfeclipse and ftp
lol. My dev box used to be Linux, so I had to use FTP to it. I use Araxis Merge to actually migrate the code. I'm not positive if I follow the drag and drop question right now.. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Once I map the drive, I just open the files in my IDE directly from that drive. That would mean I'd be opening my files on my production server. Not a good choice for me, I'm not *that* good of a coder! :o) I want to test locally then move them to production. Is drag-n-drop from within the IDE between local files and the WebDrive possible in the Explorer tab? If so, that would be great. Rick -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfeclipse and ftp I dunno-- I've never used FileZilla and my last job had purchased WebDrive for us. I'm not sure what you mean by separate interface. Once I map the drive, I just open the files in my IDE directly from that drive. Since it maps it as a regular drive, I also have the option of easily dragging stuff to and from the drive in windows and using Araxis Merge to compare code. You could probably get similar mileage out of a freeware version of the same thing. ~Brad - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: RE: cfeclipse and ftp Ouch... $60. Is it really easier than FileZilla if you have to go out to a separate interface anyway? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310096 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cfeclipse and ftp
I've always just used WebDrive to map my FTP servers to a local drive. Second you on Webdrive, I still use HomeSite+ on Windows and found WebDrive gave me better FTP control and performance over the FTP/RDS shell extension. Eliminated that nasty ftp timeout and it zero-bytes the file and locks up issue too. -Justin Scott ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfeclipse and ftp
thanks for your feedback, seems really strange that it is now on version 3.3 and people are still having problems with ftp - which i would be sure would be a fundamental feature in an application like this. well we will still be using dreamweaver for developing our interfaces as it has all the tools we need which cfeclipse doesnt. so i guess we will still use dreamweaver as the ftp as well until cfeclipse can get it right!!! it is excellent on the the coding though!!! thanks again Hi we are just making the move from dreamweaver to cfeclipse and think its great!!! except the ftp doesnt seem to be as straight forward as it is in dreamweaver! we have seen that there are various ways of uploading files to our site but none of them seem to work through our cfeclipse and wonder what we are missing? first we tried to connect to our server using the file explorer... we clicked on locations -- entered the details of our server (all is definitely correct) and then save and closed the dialog box. we then select the site from the drop down box but it contains no files and doesnt provide a way for us to connect to it. we also found another tutorial on how to synchronize our files with our server by right clicking on the project node on the navigation tab and selecting 'import'. it then says to open the folder called 'other' and select the FTP option, but we don't have this option in the 'other' folder. the only option we have is 'remote file system' the third option we have read about is to use aptana. but this seems like overkill. why would we need such a large program just to upload files to our server. we would appreciate any advice on best option and what we are doing wrong, or what we are not doing but should be doing? thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFEclipse / Suppress FTP Message
I am not sure about this one. Please subscribe to the CFEclipse mailing list so that more people can help you. Cheers, Teddy On 1/2/07, Coldfusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea if there is a way to suppress the FTP confirmation notice when uploading new files? I know it is there for safety but one less click would be nice. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265617 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
I think the DW type solution is what some folks are looking for. It never occurred to me to check out from SC direct to prod. In our current operation we check out from sc to local, change files and deploy to dev for initial teating, then migrate up to test (for QA/UAT) and then to prod environments. I didn't think that was atypical... - Calvin -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) Nope, it doesn't. The FTP view is for editing remote files in-place, not for standard FTP operations. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFE have a simple to use FTP like in DreamWeaver? I want a key combination shortcut like in DW. Ctr+U saves and uploads at the same time. Last time I looked at CFE, FTP was still a pain to use. Phil -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214523 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP
I just installed a product called WebDrive that lets you map an FTP folder as a virtual drive in Windoze.. I have read that there's a similar product for NetWare users called netdrive.exe (which has to come off the Novell resource disk), so that might be an option for NetWare users that have access to said disk. So I've been using WebDrive for a couple of days, and it seems to play nicely with Eclipse, and I can now edit and save my files directly on the development server via FTP, just like I had dreamweaver set up. It even saves a copy locally in a synch folder, so I have a local backup (works just like DW's upload on save feature, same shortcut, CTRL-S). I'm just now getting a chance to explore CF-Eclipse, since the only practical I have had to my development environment is through ftp, and so far I'm digging it. My only complaint is that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to switch between projects, which was trivial in DW, using the dropdown above the resource tree in the Files tab. That is all for now. :) Seth - Original Message - On 8/2/05, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFE have a simple to use FTP like in DreamWeaver? I want a key combination shortcut like in DW. Ctr+U saves and uploads at the same time. Last time I looked at CFE, FTP was still a pain to use. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214544 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
That's what I want. When working on simple sites, I want to be able to put and get with a single click. I'd love for that ability to be in CFE. Constanty Connie DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) I think the DW type solution is what some folks are looking for. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214550 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP
You should be able to just Switch Workspace to get to different projects (if you want that setup) otherwise all projects are listed in the Same window so just need to expand that node - easier than DW. Also, note that Eclipse is the IDE and CFE is the plugin- it should be clear on what features and quirks belong to which before flagging. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Seth Bienek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thu Aug 11 15:00:35 2005 Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP I just installed a product called WebDrive that lets you map an FTP folder as a virtual drive in Windoze.. I have read that there's a similar product for NetWare users called netdrive.exe (which has to come off the Novell resource disk), so that might be an option for NetWare users that have access to said disk. So I've been using WebDrive for a couple of days, and it seems to play nicely with Eclipse, and I can now edit and save my files directly on the development server via FTP, just like I had dreamweaver set up. It even saves a copy locally in a synch folder, so I have a local backup (works just like DW's upload on save feature, same shortcut, CTRL-S). I'm just now getting a chance to explore CF-Eclipse, since the only practical I have had to my development environment is through ftp, and so far I'm digging it. My only complaint is that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to switch between projects, which was trivial in DW, using the dropdown above the resource tree in the Files tab. That is all for now. :) Seth - Original Message - On 8/2/05, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFE have a simple to use FTP like in DreamWeaver? I want a key combination shortcut like in DW. Ctr+U saves and uploads at the same time. Last time I looked at CFE, FTP was still a pain to use. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214695 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
Connie DeCinko wrote: How are CFE users uploading files to their production sites? I really like the ability in DW to push and pull files between development and production without having to drop out to an FTP program. I don't recall having this ability in CFE unless its recently been added. Constanty Connie DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com I completely agree with, and second this question. I would be a CFEclipse user if it weren't for this sole feature. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213488 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
CFE now has FTP capability. On 8/2/05, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie DeCinko wrote: How are CFE users uploading files to their production sites? I really like the ability in DW to push and pull files between development and production without having to drop out to an FTP program. I don't recall having this ability in CFE unless its recently been added. Constanty Connie DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com I completely agree with, and second this question. I would be a CFEclipse user if it weren't for this sole feature. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213490 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
Why not use source control with eclipse, as it normally integrates (with p4, cvs, and others), and then when ready to deploy, do a sync of your repository on the server? I've been doing this for a while (using Perforce as my SCM) and not only does it guarantee only sending checked-in code to your servers, but it also allows you to shut off your ftp server. I actually have a CF site which is set up to do a Sync/Update from my source control, and I go there to pull new files. -dov -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) Connie DeCinko wrote: How are CFE users uploading files to their production sites? I really like the ability in DW to push and pull files between development and production without having to drop out to an FTP program. I don't recall having this ability in CFE unless its recently been added. Constanty Connie DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com I completely agree with, and second this question. I would be a CFEclipse user if it weren't for this sole feature. -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213491 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
If you pull right from your source control system to your production webroot, make sure you're either doing an export (not a checkout), or you're masking your metadata directories in some fashion (i.e. with the web server). There's data in there that you don't want to be public. If you have to do it that way, I'd recommend the latter, as doing repeated exports just chews up bandwidth unnecessarily (since without the metadata, you can't do deltas). Much better (at least in my opinion) is to have your production systems directly mirror you staging system. That staging system keeps an up-to-date copy of the codebase from version control, and then uses some delta-aware transmission method (I like rsync) to keep all the production servers in sync with it, except for the metadata directories. It also absolves you of having to log into each production server to pull code updates, which is a huge pain if you've got more than a couple machines. Having a central point that you can push from is a lot easier. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use source control with eclipse, as it normally integrates (with p4, cvs, and others), and then when ready to deploy, do a sync of your repository on the server? I've been doing this for a while (using Perforce as my SCM) and not only does it guarantee only sending checked-in code to your servers, but it also allows you to shut off your ftp server. I actually have a CF site which is set up to do a Sync/Update from my source control, and I go there to pull new files. -dov -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213494 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
Barneyb, sorry, I wasn't too clear. I have a home-based Source Control Server. When developing , I check in and out of it. I cut and branch releases, etc. My structure looks like this /websites/domain/(www, database, private,etc)/files On my web server, I have sites which map their roots to an export of /websites/domain/ Then I can sync them on staging. And once I'm ready, sync them on production. The syncing mechanism is all command-line based, so I wrapped that up in a CF app so I can deploy it via hitting some URLs' ... Only changed and new files are moved (and deleted ones are removed). In CVS parlance, I do a cvs update, etc... In perforce, it's a p4 sync on a given clientspec. Since I only have 2 prod servers, its not a big deal, but you're right that its not scalable should my server farm grow. This is for a personal/private website project, not work-related, and I'm the only developer, so I'm not too concerned at the moment about making it too much more complicated... -Dov -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) If you pull right from your source control system to your production webroot, make sure you're either doing an export (not a checkout), or you're masking your metadata directories in some fashion (i.e. with the web server). There's data in there that you don't want to be public. If you have to do it that way, I'd recommend the latter, as doing repeated exports just chews up bandwidth unnecessarily (since without the metadata, you can't do deltas). Much better (at least in my opinion) is to have your production systems directly mirror you staging system. That staging system keeps an up-to-date copy of the codebase from version control, and then uses some delta-aware transmission method (I like rsync) to keep all the production servers in sync with it, except for the metadata directories. It also absolves you of having to log into each production server to pull code updates, which is a huge pain if you've got more than a couple machines. Having a central point that you can push from is a lot easier. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use source control with eclipse, as it normally integrates (with p4, cvs, and others), and then when ready to deploy, do a sync of your repository on the server? I've been doing this for a while (using Perforce as my SCM) and not only does it guarantee only sending checked-in code to your servers, but it also allows you to shut off your ftp server. I actually have a CF site which is set up to do a Sync/Update from my source control, and I go there to pull new files. -dov -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213497 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
We use ftp for developing on the dev server, which is a checked out copy of the production code (which is checked out both on the production server and the dev server). When I'm ready to deploy, I check in the files I want to deploy, and do an update on the production server. We use Subversion and TortoiseSVN. It's probably not a perfect solution, but it sure beats ftping files over. It's still a work in progress, and we're constantly looking for ways to improve it. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it. Russ -Original Message- From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) Barneyb, sorry, I wasn't too clear. I have a home-based Source Control Server. When developing , I check in and out of it. I cut and branch releases, etc. My structure looks like this /websites/domain/(www, database, private,etc)/files On my web server, I have sites which map their roots to an export of /websites/domain/ Then I can sync them on staging. And once I'm ready, sync them on production. The syncing mechanism is all command-line based, so I wrapped that up in a CF app so I can deploy it via hitting some URLs' ... Only changed and new files are moved (and deleted ones are removed). In CVS parlance, I do a cvs update, etc... In perforce, it's a p4 sync on a given clientspec. Since I only have 2 prod servers, its not a big deal, but you're right that its not scalable should my server farm grow. This is for a personal/private website project, not work-related, and I'm the only developer, so I'm not too concerned at the moment about making it too much more complicated... -Dov -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) If you pull right from your source control system to your production webroot, make sure you're either doing an export (not a checkout), or you're masking your metadata directories in some fashion (i.e. with the web server). There's data in there that you don't want to be public. If you have to do it that way, I'd recommend the latter, as doing repeated exports just chews up bandwidth unnecessarily (since without the metadata, you can't do deltas). Much better (at least in my opinion) is to have your production systems directly mirror you staging system. That staging system keeps an up-to-date copy of the codebase from version control, and then uses some delta-aware transmission method (I like rsync) to keep all the production servers in sync with it, except for the metadata directories. It also absolves you of having to log into each production server to pull code updates, which is a huge pain if you've got more than a couple machines. Having a central point that you can push from is a lot easier. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use source control with eclipse, as it normally integrates (with p4, cvs, and others), and then when ready to deploy, do a sync of your repository on the server? I've been doing this for a while (using Perforce as my SCM) and not only does it guarantee only sending checked-in code to your servers, but it also allows you to shut off your ftp server. I actually have a CF site which is set up to do a Sync/Update from my source control, and I go there to pull new files. -dov -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213498 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
What would be cool is if CF Administrator had a plugin to various SCM's which lets you assign a SCM type, server, login, password, etc, and be able to manage deployments from there. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) We use ftp for developing on the dev server, which is a checked out copy of the production code (which is checked out both on the production server and the dev server). When I'm ready to deploy, I check in the files I want to deploy, and do an update on the production server. We use Subversion and TortoiseSVN. It's probably not a perfect solution, but it sure beats ftping files over. It's still a work in progress, and we're constantly looking for ways to improve it. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it. Russ -Original Message- From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) Barneyb, sorry, I wasn't too clear. I have a home-based Source Control Server. When developing , I check in and out of it. I cut and branch releases, etc. My structure looks like this /websites/domain/(www, database, private,etc)/files On my web server, I have sites which map their roots to an export of /websites/domain/ Then I can sync them on staging. And once I'm ready, sync them on production. The syncing mechanism is all command-line based, so I wrapped that up in a CF app so I can deploy it via hitting some URLs' ... Only changed and new files are moved (and deleted ones are removed). In CVS parlance, I do a cvs update, etc... In perforce, it's a p4 sync on a given clientspec. Since I only have 2 prod servers, its not a big deal, but you're right that its not scalable should my server farm grow. This is for a personal/private website project, not work-related, and I'm the only developer, so I'm not too concerned at the moment about making it too much more complicated... -Dov -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse) If you pull right from your source control system to your production webroot, make sure you're either doing an export (not a checkout), or you're masking your metadata directories in some fashion (i.e. with the web server). There's data in there that you don't want to be public. If you have to do it that way, I'd recommend the latter, as doing repeated exports just chews up bandwidth unnecessarily (since without the metadata, you can't do deltas). Much better (at least in my opinion) is to have your production systems directly mirror you staging system. That staging system keeps an up-to-date copy of the codebase from version control, and then uses some delta-aware transmission method (I like rsync) to keep all the production servers in sync with it, except for the metadata directories. It also absolves you of having to log into each production server to pull code updates, which is a huge pain if you've got more than a couple machines. Having a central point that you can push from is a lot easier. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use source control with eclipse, as it normally integrates (with p4, cvs, and others), and then when ready to deploy, do a sync of your repository on the server? I've been doing this for a while (using Perforce as my SCM) and not only does it guarantee only sending checked-in code to your servers, but it also allows you to shut off your ftp server. I actually have a CF site which is set up to do a Sync/Update from my source control, and I go there to pull new files. -dov -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213499 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
You don't want to be checking out files to your live system, in general, because that exposes the VC metadata to the public. Really. However, synthesizing such an app would be pretty trivial, and you can plug it into the CF admin using the extension point (assuming CF7 still has it). Use Ant, since it's got a lot of systems supported already, and just build a simple web interface that calls the build file with the right params to do your redeploy. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Katz, Dov B (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be cool is if CF Administrator had a plugin to various SCM's which lets you assign a SCM type, server, login, password, etc, and be able to manage deployments from there. -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213501 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
Does CFE have a simple to use FTP like in DreamWeaver? I want a key combination shortcut like in DW. Ctr+U saves and uploads at the same time. Last time I looked at CFE, FTP was still a pain to use. Phil On 8/2/05, Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFE now has FTP capability. On 8/2/05, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie DeCinko wrote: How are CFE users uploading files to their production sites? I really like the ability in DW to push and pull files between development and production without having to drop out to an FTP program. I don't recall having this ability in CFE unless its recently been added. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213511 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFEclipse and FTP (was: MM and CFEclipse)
Nope, it doesn't. The FTP view is for editing remote files in-place, not for standard FTP operations. cheers, barneyb On 8/2/05, Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFE have a simple to use FTP like in DreamWeaver? I want a key combination shortcut like in DW. Ctr+U saves and uploads at the same time. Last time I looked at CFE, FTP was still a pain to use. Phil -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213519 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
