Re: cgi.http_referer problem
Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I get an email every time one fails, and record all initial 'incoming' visitors in a db that logs, among other things, browser type and referer value. Every once in a while I'll have a user get 'refered' in from my own site, which should be impossible given the tests I run. Only maybe 1 out of 100 fail, and the failure appears to be random... sort of. It appears to be restricted to IE 5.x and AOL browsers after AOL 4.0. However I haven't tried to quantify this other than eyeballing the reports. On occasion, maybe the browser drops the ball and somehow loses the referer value. This could also be user behavior: Lets say for some reason a page doesn't load properly for whatever reason. a user could place their cursor in the Address field at the end and hits the ENTER key. That would do it, too. (i.e. user 'arrives' at a page after hitting 'Enter' and actually refreshes it. The next link is a referred link in from my own site). - Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - - Original Message - From: Sima Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: cgi.http_referer problem snip So the question is: Is there any other situation when the cgi.http_referer would not be get set? ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: cgi.http_referer problem
Hi Matt, Thanks for your input. Yes, this does not happen very often, we got two from one site: Browser used: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) Browser used: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) I guess we cannot do anything to prevent this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I get an email every time one fails, and record all initial 'incoming' visitors in a db that logs, among other things, browser type and referer value. Every once in a while I'll have a user get 'refered' in from my own site, which should be impossible given the tests I run. Only maybe 1 out of 100 fail, and the failure appears to be random... sort of. It appears to be restricted to IE 5.x and AOL browsers after AOL 4.0. However I haven't tried to quantify this other than eyeballing the reports. On occasion, maybe the browser drops the ball and somehow loses the referer value. This could also be user behavior: Lets say for some reason a page doesn't load properly for whatever reason. a user could place their cursor in the Address field at the end and hits the ENTER key. That would do it, too. (i.e. user 'arrives' at a page after hitting 'Enter' and actually refreshes it. The next link is a referred link in from my own site). - Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - - Original Message - From: Sima Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: cgi.http_referer problem snip So the question is: Is there any other situation when the cgi.http_referer would not be get set? ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: cgi.http_referer problem
If there is anything we can do I certainly haven't figured it out. If this is user behavior it would explain the scattered random nature of the problem. I have about 1 records in the db at the moment. If I get the time today I'll see if I can pin the problem on specific browsers, although it won't do much good to know, I think. --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- from: Sima Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:17:46 -0500 Hi Matt, Thanks for your input. Yes, this does not happen very often, we got two from one site: Browser used: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) Browser used: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) I guess we cannot do anything to prevent this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I get an email every time one fails, and record all initial 'incoming' visitors in a db that logs, among other things, browser type and referer value. Every once in a while I'll have a user get 'refered' in from my own site, which should be impossible given the tests I run. Only maybe 1 out of 100 fail, and the failure appears to be random... sort of. It appears to be restricted to IE 5.x and AOL browsers after AOL 4.0. However I haven't tried to quantify this other than eyeballing the reports. On occasion, maybe the browser drops the ball and somehow loses the referer value. This could also be user behavior: Lets say for some reason a page doesn't load properly for whatever reason. a user could place their cursor in the Address field at the end and hits the ENTER key. That would do it, too. (i.e. user 'arrives' at a page after hitting 'Enter' and actually refreshes it. The next link is a referred link in from my own site). - Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - - Original Message - From: Sima Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: cgi.http_referer problem snip So the question is: Is there any other situation when the cgi.http_referer would not be get set? ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
