RE: do not increase counter is returns 0 Apology to List
Erik originated the lotto scam post? That's funny... and just when I thought I couldn't think any better of him. ;-) I've seen all of the posts in question Brian... I think I may have even started the original barrage of 'read a book' comments geared toward erik... but after the 10th time or so, I just decided that he has no intention of learning where he needs to but instead would rather have the quick fix so he can move on so my latest Outlook filter entitled 'Erik Tom' was born. Katrina is right (to a very small degree) ... it is time to watch him shrink into the distance... you tried to help. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0 Apology to List Seeing as how *I* was not the person who initially responded to Erik, and how my message also advocated *exactly* what you are proposing (ignoring him), I don't understand at all what you're trying to say or why I am somehow the target of your indignation. Regardless, I'll let this thread die now since you seem content to reject the olive branch I was trying to extend. Sorry you disagree with me, but given the long chain of events related to this (which you seem to be ignoring or are still not aware of), I can tell you with certainty that I would say the same thing again without hesitation. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Katrina Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize for having posted this to the list. It was intended to be a private post directly to Brian. I was a little upset at the time that I wrote the post. This is not an excuse but an explanation for my not changing the recipient. I however stand by my original message. While you didn't actually use the word idiot the underlying message, at least how I read it, was that you were condemning Erik for either being too stupid or too lazy to read even the most basic book on SQL. To me that's the same thing. It also implies that YOU HAVE read the most basic book on SQL and therefore know more than the next guy. I have found, on the MANY different lists that I have belonged to, that if you ignore the kind of people you all have described they eventually go away. They might post the same questions over and over and over again for a little while but they eventually leave. They might even throw a fit about not getting any help. So what? Who cares? Instead of posting about how we shouldn't help this person because we have already tried and tried to help them and they just don't get it, ignore them. I'm sure there is going to be more flaming for this response. However I felt that I needed to explain my reaction earlier and again apologize to the rest of the list for this public discussion that should have been private.Thank you, Katrina ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306803 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: do not increase counter is returns 0 Apology to List
I apologize for having posted this to the list. It was intended to be a private post directly to Brian. I was a little upset at the time that I wrote the post. This is not an excuse but an explanation for my not changing the recipient. I however stand by my original message. While you didn't actually use the word idiot the underlying message, at least how I read it, was that you were condemning Erik for either being too stupid or too lazy to read even the most basic book on SQL. To me that's the same thing. It also implies that YOU HAVE read the most basic book on SQL and therefore know more than the next guy. I have found, on the MANY different lists that I have belonged to, that if you ignore the kind of people you all have described they eventually go away. They might post the same questions over and over and over again for a little while but they eventually leave. They might even throw a fit about not getting any help. So what? Who cares? Instead of posting about how we shouldn't help this person because we have already tried and tried to help them and they just don't get it, ignore them. I'm sure there is going to be more flaming for this response. However I felt that I needed to explain my reaction earlier and again apologize to the rest of the list for this public discussion that should have been private.Thank you, Katrina If people knew how hard I worked to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful after all. --Michelangelo - Original Message From: Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 5:35:40 PM Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0 Katrina, I held off responding to you to wait for the other replies that I knew would be coming. Hopefully by this point you realize that your comments to me were rather far off the mark, and that folks with knowledge of this ongoing situation actually agree with me. I assume you must not have known what has gone on with Erik and hopefully these additional postings have supplied the context that my initial reply did not. But even still, I neither called him an idiot nor attempted to show how much more I know than the next guy. I would humbly ask that in the future, before you condemn me or put words in my mouth that you please make sure you aren't missing essential background information. I promise to do the same. ;-) Thanks, Brian On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Katrina Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been a member of this list for a few years now, but I remember it being a place where even the most beginning person could come for advice. This is a community and not a place for you to show how much more you know than the next guy. I really don't think this response is appropriate and I'm sure that most of the community feels the same way. How about next time instead of saying You're an idiot, you either give some good advice or don't respond? That way there's no waste of everyone else's time reading posts that aren't helpful. You might also find that you'll get better responses to any questions you have if you're nice. *Down off my soap box now* Thank you, Katrina If people knew how hard I worked to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful after all. --Michelangelo - Original Message From: Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:37:46 AM Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0 If Erik would bother to read even the most basic book on SQL he could answer this himself since this could all be done in a couple of lines of SQL with no loops and no CFML at all. But he'd rather waste everyone else's time instead of spending 10 dollars. So please don't encourage him, Tom. ;-) On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008, erik tom wrote: not return returns a record then do not increase the counter (this part is working) Also if the query.hours eq 0 and query.minutes eq 0 also should not increase the counter cfif getTimeAvg1.recordcount gt 0 cfif getTimeAvg1.recordcount gt 0 and query.hours neq 0 and query.mineutes neq 0 ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or
Re: do not increase counter is returns 0 Apology to List
Seeing as how *I* was not the person who initially responded to Erik, and how my message also advocated *exactly* what you are proposing (ignoring him), I don't understand at all what you're trying to say or why I am somehow the target of your indignation. Regardless, I'll let this thread die now since you seem content to reject the olive branch I was trying to extend. Sorry you disagree with me, but given the long chain of events related to this (which you seem to be ignoring or are still not aware of), I can tell you with certainty that I would say the same thing again without hesitation. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Katrina Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize for having posted this to the list. It was intended to be a private post directly to Brian. I was a little upset at the time that I wrote the post. This is not an excuse but an explanation for my not changing the recipient. I however stand by my original message. While you didn't actually use the word idiot the underlying message, at least how I read it, was that you were condemning Erik for either being too stupid or too lazy to read even the most basic book on SQL. To me that's the same thing. It also implies that YOU HAVE read the most basic book on SQL and therefore know more than the next guy. I have found, on the MANY different lists that I have belonged to, that if you ignore the kind of people you all have described they eventually go away. They might post the same questions over and over and over again for a little while but they eventually leave. They might even throw a fit about not getting any help. So what? Who cares? Instead of posting about how we shouldn't help this person because we have already tried and tried to help them and they just don't get it, ignore them. I'm sure there is going to be more flaming for this response. However I felt that I needed to explain my reaction earlier and again apologize to the rest of the list for this public discussion that should have been private.Thank you, Katrina ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
