Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-30 Thread daniel kessler
3) An app named HTMLDoc.exe will need to be installed on the server (ask the 
webmaster where you're hosted to do this...explain that it creates PDF docs 
and should not interfere with other hosted sites..they get kinda squirelly 
about that sort of thing...hehe).

ah well that's a sticking point.  I asked them and they said that I can just 
wait for CF7 which they'll install mid-summer.  So I guess that they agree with 
alot of the posters, ignoring my particular project needs.  I understand their 
point - a shared environment and why install something new when they're going 
to give that capability soon anyway.

Thanks Bryan and all the other posters for  your help.  Time to talk to the 
client, I think.

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Paul Hastings
daniel kessler wrote:
 So...is there any free software for CFMX 6.1 to take a web page to PDF?  Our 
 IT hasn't updated to 7 yet, but it looks like that'd do it.  If not free, any 
 cost software?  Do you think bringing this page to PDF will work?

itext is quite powerful (http://www.lowagie.com/iText/) but pretty much 
everything is complicated compared to cfdocument.

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
3 options off the top of my head:

-HTML2PDF3 custom tagwrap around HTML to be printed and it creates a PDF 
you can serve up via CFCONTENT

-go to SourceForge and look for iText...this is for fancier stuff...so try 
option 1 first ;-)

-move to CF 7 (but again...try option 1 first...really simple)

HTH

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Subject: dynamic pdf creation


 We have a web page that's difficult to print.  It's dynamically created:
 http://www.hhp.umd.edu/tipping_point/checklist2.cfm
 Fill in the 10 radio buttons and click the button at the bottom to see the 
 next page.

 The graphic on the left side (yes/no over and over again) doesn't print on 
 the pc because it's a background image. I do that to make it repeat for 
 the distance of the table it's in.  Unfortunately it doesn't print and 
 that's a requirement.  So, we'd thought we'd make a pdf of this content, 
 on the fly so that the user can print it - hoping that it works going to a 
 pdf.

 So...is there any free software for CFMX 6.1 to take a web page to PDF? 
 Our IT hasn't updated to 7 yet, but it looks like that'd do it.  If not 
 free, any cost software?  Do you think bringing this page to PDF will 
 work?

 thanks for the help.

 

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RE: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Paul Vernon
Why not just turn on background printing on the browser or is that something
you don't have control of for this site?

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Steven Erat
3 options off the top of my head:

-HTML2PDF3 custom tagwrap around HTML to be printed and it creates a PDF 
you can serve up via CFCONTENT

-go to SourceForge and look for iText...this is for fancier stuff...so try 
option 1 first ;-)

-move to CF 7 (but again...try option 1 first...really simple)

Agreed, CFMX 7 CFDocument is the best option.  

In addition to the former suggestions for CFMX 6.1, there is also FOP from the 
Apache Foundation, although its quite rigid unless you want to dynamically 
generate FOP tags and layout.  It works well if you have a standard presenation 
layout, see the example in my blog entry:
http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=aliasalias=fop

And see:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/index.html

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
OK...not sure why a server upgrade is being suggested over a simple custom 
tag solution...but I sure wouldn't go that far unless there was no other way 
!!

It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better than 
you current car ;-)

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Adam Haskell
 It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better than
 you current car ;-)

Dynamic Document generation is a bit bigger than a rearview
mirror...It can be major selling point. You must realize in this
situation the main reason for a PDF is for a uniform print format. Why
generate a PDF at all why not make a Flash Paper instead? See by just
going with a custom tag or open source solution you are missing out on
an excellent alternative. I agree, at my place, upgrading just for
this feature is a bit extreme but if this is an important feature it
could be just as rediculous to not upgrade. In my opinion flash paper
is a heck of a lot better than PDF...it loads faster, it can be
embedded in the page, and it uses something thats on about 98% of
computer outs there today, a higher rate than Acrobat read is
installed on. Ontop of that the download for flash is about 10x's
smaller than adobe's reader.


Adam H 


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:23:43 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK...not sure why a server upgrade is being suggested over a simple custom
 tag solution...but I sure wouldn't go that far unless there was no other way
 !!
 
 It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better than
 you current car ;-)
 
 Cheers
 
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 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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 fax: 250.480.1264
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 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread David Manriquez
OR..

You can use directly  HTMLDOC  :-) with CFexecute and the url.


CF7 PDF creation do not support Htttps links right?..


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-Mensaje original-
De: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Martes, 29 de Marzo de 2005 13:24
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: dynamic pdf creation

OK...not sure why a server upgrade is being suggested over a simple custom 
tag solution...but I sure wouldn't go that far unless there was no other way

!!

It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better than 
you current car ;-)

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Dynamic Document generation is a bit bigger than a rearview
 mirror...It can be major selling point. You must realize in this
 situation the main reason for a PDF is for a uniform print format. Why
 generate a PDF at all why not make a Flash Paper instead? See by just
 going with a custom tag or open source solution you are missing out on
 an excellent alternative. I agree, at my place, upgrading just for
 this feature is a bit extreme but if this is an important feature it
 could be just as rediculous to not upgrade. In my opinion flash paper
 is a heck of a lot better than PDF...it loads faster, it can be
 embedded in the page, and it uses something thats on about 98% of
 computer outs there today, a higher rate than Acrobat read is
 installed on. Ontop of that the download for flash is about 10x's
 smaller than adobe's reader.

Agreed...but the original poster was having issues with background images 
not printingbest tool for the job and all that ;-)

Trust me...I know how hard it CAN be if your document is complex (like my 
base doc which is 16 pages when empty...and 100% data driven)...I've used 
iText...it's a PITA, but it works like a champ ;-)

Cheers


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From: Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: dynamic pdf creation


 It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better 
 than
 you current car ;-)

 Dynamic Document generation is a bit bigger than a rearview
 mirror...It can be major selling point. You must realize in this
 situation the main reason for a PDF is for a uniform print format. Why
 generate a PDF at all why not make a Flash Paper instead? See by just
 going with a custom tag or open source solution you are missing out on
 an excellent alternative. I agree, at my place, upgrading just for
 this feature is a bit extreme but if this is an important feature it
 could be just as rediculous to not upgrade. In my opinion flash paper
 is a heck of a lot better than PDF...it loads faster, it can be
 embedded in the page, and it uses something thats on about 98% of
 computer outs there today, a higher rate than Acrobat read is
 installed on. Ontop of that the download for flash is about 10x's
 smaller than adobe's reader.


 Adam H


 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:23:43 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK...not sure why a server upgrade is being suggested over a simple 
 custom
 tag solution...but I sure wouldn't go that far unless there was no other 
 way
 !!

 It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better 
 than
 you current car ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com



 

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Paul Hastings
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
 Trust me...I know how hard it CAN be if your document is complex (like my 
 base doc which is 16 pages when empty...and 100% data driven)...I've used 
 iText...it's a PITA, but it works like a champ ;-)

actually itext is as complicated or simple as you need it to be. it does 
however allow you an almost insane amount of control over the pdf 
burning process--and the mad scientists behind (paulo  bruno) are 
constantly improving it. even w/cfdocument we'll still find uses for it. 
though it's use is somewhat complicated under mx 7.


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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread daniel kessler
I turned it on in the browser and that worked, but that's me with my client (PC 
IE) in hand. Others won't see that.  There's no way to do this programmatically 
is there?  I have control over the site, but not the server itself which is 
controlled by our webhosting and the main reason that we're not CF7 yet.

Why not just turn on background printing on the browser or is that something
you don't have control of for this site?

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Yep...great product...and I can atest to how much better it's becomeI 
recently removed about 500 lines of *ahem* workarounds because an earlier 
version had issuesbut the latest rocks!!

and yes...when you can place anything you want by the pixel...that's 
control ;-)

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Bryan the broken record says try HTML2PDF3 ;-)

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread daniel kessler
Bryan the broken record says try HTML2PDF3 ;-)

I am looking into it.  I've not used a custom tag before so I don't know much 
about them.  I'm a bit intimidated, honestly, which is hard to say on a 
programming list.

Just as a fyi, the url is:
http://www.letsjam.com/downloads/html2pdf3.cfm

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RE: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Damien McKenna
 Bryan the broken record says try HTML2PDF3 ;-)

http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/faq.php?20#20
HTMLDOC currently supports most HTML 3.2 and some HTML 4.0 elements.
HTMLDOC does not support HTML 4.0 tables, attributes, stylesheets, or
scripting. HTML 4.0 functionality is currently in development and will
be provided in a future release of HTMLDOC. We do not have any estimates
or schedules for new HTMLDOC releases available to the public.

Has this been updated since the FAQ was written, i.e. is HTMLDOC still
limited to very limited HTML support?

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RE: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Connie DeCinko
CFReport and the new Report Builder are enough to sell me on the upgrade.
The improved performance is just gravy. 

-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dynamic pdf creation

 It's like buying a new car because you like the rearview mirror better
than
 you current car ;-)

Dynamic Document generation is a bit bigger than a rearview
mirror...It can be major selling point. You must realize in this
situation the main reason for a PDF is for a uniform print format. Why
generate a PDF at all why not make a Flash Paper instead? See by just
going with a custom tag or open source solution you are missing out on
an excellent alternative. I agree, at my place, upgrading just for
this feature is a bit extreme but if this is an important feature it
could be just as rediculous to not upgrade. In my opinion flash paper
is a heck of a lot better than PDF...it loads faster, it can be
embedded in the page, and it uses something thats on about 98% of
computer outs there today, a higher rate than Acrobat read is
installed on. Ontop of that the download for flash is about 10x's
smaller than adobe's reader.


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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 I am looking into it.  I've not used a custom tag before so I don't know 
 much about them.  I'm a bit intimidated, honestly, which is hard to say on 
 a programming list.


Not to worry...we don't bite (often) ;-)

Here's what you'll need to do:

1) dload tag

2) put the HTML2PDF.cfm file in your cfusion\custom tags directory OR in the 
same directory as the file that will use it

3) An app named HTMLDoc.exe will need to be installed on the server (ask the 
webmaster where you're hosted to do this...explain that it creates PDF docs 
and should not interfere with other hosted sites..they get kinda squirelly 
about that sort of thing...hehe).

4) If memory serves all you do is wrap and beginning and ending tag 
(HTML2PDF) along with some attributes (just like other cftags like CFQUERY 
etc. that you've already usedread the docs that come with the tag for 
specifics).

5) run the page in your browser and a PDF will be generatedyou can add a 
link to a  printer friendly version (which links to the PDF).  There are 
other ways to handle this...but let's get your PDF created first ;-)

Hope that gets ya going

Any problems...just ask...we'rer here for ya ;-)

Cheers

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RE: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Connie DeCinko
That's one of those settings I wish Microsoft would have turned on by
default.  I wonder if you can create a utility or reg file to flip that
switch.  Changing the default IE print margins would also be helpful.
 

-Original Message-
From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dynamic pdf creation

I turned it on in the browser and that worked, but that's me with my client
(PC IE) in hand. Others won't see that.  There's no way to do this
programmatically is there?  I have control over the site, but not the server
itself which is controlled by our webhosting and the main reason that we're
not CF7 yet.

Why not just turn on background printing on the browser or is that
something
you don't have control of for this site?

Paul




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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Joe Rinehart
ColdFusion MX 7 makes it a breeze.  Dunno if anyone had mentioned it yet...

-Joe


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:10:35 -0400, daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bryan the broken record says try HTML2PDF3 ;-)
 
 I am looking into it.  I've not used a custom tag before so I don't know much 
 about them.  I'm a bit intimidated, honestly, which is hard to say on a 
 programming list.
 
 Just as a fyi, the url is:
 http://www.letsjam.com/downloads/html2pdf3.cfm
 
 

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Re: dynamic pdf creation

2005-03-29 Thread Larry Lyons
3 options off the top of my head:

-HTML2PDF3 custom tagwrap around HTML to be printed and it creates a PDF 
you can serve up via CFCONTENT


This isn't such an easy option - you need to have HTMLDoc on your server, and 
if you're in a shared hosting environment that can be a bit difficult. Second, 
HTMLDoc only supports HTML 3.2, no stylesheets etc., just lots and lots of 
font/font and other ugly code. 

CFMX 7 is a better solution. 

larry

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