Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
On Friday 13 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Hmm, maybe I can learn some stuff here about session variables. Well, the parameters (and their values) themselves are sizeable in nature. Sort of like defaultTextForMessage='some text 150 characters long' and so on. Is storing them in the session advisable? Well, if it's application wide, something like Application rather than Session might be best. If you have multiple applications/skins and swap at runtime based on username, then Session may be best. Either way, if you are so tight on memoray that a few extra hundreds of K are an issue, you have other problems :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to adaptively aggregate edge-of-your-seat bandwidth on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
Thanks for your input Justin. However, I already have a bunch of heavy-duty CFCs running in the application scope. I was thinking that I did not want to increase that load. I also don't know how much is enough in the application scope. I should probably just get something like SeeFusion and go do a bunch of tests. Ah well! George On 4/13/07, Justin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a bit late on this thread, but if you're reading in site settings on every page request it would make more sense to put them into the application scope instead of the session scope. If you have multiple sites running on the same application you could use a structure to store the data that is read in on the first request (or on application start if using application.cfc) keyed based on the site id. Once read once you won't have to process that data on every request and it will be stored in memory once instead of a new copy for each visitor. -Justin Scott | GravityFree Client Care Special Forces Unit 1960 Stickney Point Road, Suite 210 Sarasota | FL | 34231 | 800.207.4431 941.927.7674 x115 | f 941.923.5429 www.GravityFree.com -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file Hmm, maybe I can learn some stuff here about session variables. Well, the parameters (and their values) themselves are sizeable in nature. Sort of like defaultTextForMessage='some text 150 characters long' and so on. Is storing them in the session advisable? Thanks, George On 4/12/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Yes it is read at every request. For example, the navigational menu for every site is different, so the params XML file will have to be read every request to see what the menu items are. The only thing I store in a session variables is an ID identifying the site. Right. Why can't you store the parsed parameters in the session too ? -- Tom Chiverton ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
Hmm, maybe I can learn some stuff here about session variables. Well, the parameters (and their values) themselves are sizeable in nature. Sort of like defaultTextForMessage='some text 150 characters long' and so on. Is storing them in the session advisable? Thanks, George On 4/12/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Yes it is read at every request. For example, the navigational menu for every site is different, so the params XML file will have to be read every request to see what the menu items are. The only thing I store in a session variables is an ID identifying the site. Right. Why can't you store the parsed parameters in the session too ? -- Tom Chiverton ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275176 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
I'm a bit late on this thread, but if you're reading in site settings on every page request it would make more sense to put them into the application scope instead of the session scope. If you have multiple sites running on the same application you could use a structure to store the data that is read in on the first request (or on application start if using application.cfc) keyed based on the site id. Once read once you won't have to process that data on every request and it will be stored in memory once instead of a new copy for each visitor. -Justin Scott | GravityFree Client Care Special Forces Unit 1960 Stickney Point Road, Suite 210 Sarasota | FL | 34231 | 800.207.4431 941.927.7674 x115 | f 941.923.5429 www.GravityFree.com -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file Hmm, maybe I can learn some stuff here about session variables. Well, the parameters (and their values) themselves are sizeable in nature. Sort of like defaultTextForMessage='some text 150 characters long' and so on. Is storing them in the session advisable? Thanks, George On 4/12/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Yes it is read at every request. For example, the navigational menu for every site is different, so the params XML file will have to be read every request to see what the menu items are. The only thing I store in a session variables is an ID identifying the site. Right. Why can't you store the parsed parameters in the session too ? -- Tom Chiverton ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
On Wednesday 11 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Well, this is an application that will be serving multiple websites (with different vHost names.) When a session is initiated with the application, it determines which site it is. Then there are a host of params that are set according to the site. Since these params don't change much, I decided I would cache them periodically in a site-specific XML file and then read that XML file, instead of going to the database to get these params. Yes, Err, right. So you're not reading it at every request (like your first post said) ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to adaptively deliver holistic e-business on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
Yes it is read at every request. For example, the navigational menu for every site is different, so the params XML file will have to be read every request to see what the menu items are. The only thing I store in a session variables is an ID identifying the site. George On 4/12/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Well, this is an application that will be serving multiple websites (with different vHost names.) When a session is initiated with the application, it determines which site it is. Then there are a host of params that are set according to the site. Since these params don't change much, I decided I would cache them periodically in a site-specific XML file and then read that XML file, instead of going to the database to get these params. Yes, Err, right. So you're not reading it at every request (like your first post said) ? -- Tom Chiverton ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
On Thursday 12 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: Yes it is read at every request. For example, the navigational menu for every site is different, so the params XML file will have to be read every request to see what the menu items are. The only thing I store in a session variables is an ID identifying the site. Right. Why can't you store the parsed parameters in the session too ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to seamlessly grow cross-media infomediaries on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275068 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
On Friday 06 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: I cannot however set these params in say an application.cfm or any such initializing code. OOI, why not ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to simultaneously brand web-enabled initiatives on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: reading params from a file v/s getting them from a file
Well, this is an application that will be serving multiple websites (with different vHost names.) When a session is initiated with the application, it determines which site it is. Then there are a host of params that are set according to the site. Since these params don't change much, I decided I would cache them periodically in a site-specific XML file and then read that XML file, instead of going to the database to get these params. Yes, the inclusion of the XML file is done in the request initializing code. Does all that make sense? Or am I going about this the wrong way? Thanks, George On 4/11/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 Apr 2007, George Abraham wrote: I cannot however set these params in say an application.cfm or any such initializing code. OOI, why not ? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
