RE: real simple syndication (rss)
Hi Check out this article on webmonkey for a plain English Introduction to RSS. http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/03/17/index3a.html?tw=authoring For people signed up to multiple newsletters and constantly checking an abundance of Blogs/developer sites RSS is a God send. Also for a simple to use and good newreader checkout Newsgator. (www.newsgator.org) HTH Kola -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 22:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: ot: real simple syndication (rss) I realize this is off-topic, but at the moment, my take on it is that real simple syndication is real stupid for something that seems to be so widely talked about and/or used. I mean, I see people putting RSS stuff on their blogs and whatnot all the time, so yesterday I tried to do the same 'cause a friend of mine mentioned wanting to be able to read the onTap framework blog on the bus on his way to work. All seemed well except that where he's able to use hyperlinks from other folks rss feeds, he doesn't seem to be able to use any of mine. So I went looking for an rss reader to see if I could duplicate the problem. And what I've found is that, although there seems to be a work group for RSS, the vast majority of RSS information on the web is found in unnoficial (looking ?) sites with lots of circular links to poorly written documents which don't really explain it, FAQ's that don't exist, and web pages containing only the word manganese (try http://blogspace.com/rss/ and hit the first link at the top that says Content Syndication with XML and RSS weblog). The only xml schemas I've been able to find for rss (though xsd is _the_ standard for defining xml dialects like rss) were not only written in an old version of xsd, but also didn't validate as a result of using elements that didn't exist in the xsd or an xsd referenced by namespace. Anyway... If anybody on the list has any real simple rss information (as opposed to the really incomplete, really complicated, really undocumented, really broken and really not well maintained rss info I've found), I'd be greatly appreciative. Thanks, Isaac ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: real simple syndication (rss)
DRK3 includes CF code/examples for RSS reader and a feed generator. O'Reilly book - Content Syndication with RSS by Ben Hammersley is pretty good with many examples. Covers various standards well. Johan Johan Steenkamp www.assetnow.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: ot: real simple syndication (rss) I realize this is off-topic, but at the moment, my take on it is that real simple syndication is real stupid for something that seems to be so widely talked about and/or used. I mean, I see people putting RSS stuff on their blogs and whatnot all the time, so yesterday I tried to do the same 'cause a friend of mine mentioned wanting to be able to read the onTap framework blog on the bus on his way to work. All seemed well except that where he's able to use hyperlinks from other folks rss feeds, he doesn't seem to be able to use any of mine. So I went looking for an rss reader to see if I could duplicate the problem. And what I've found is that, although there seems to be a work group for RSS, the vast majority of RSS information on the web is found in unnoficial (looking ?) sites with lots of circular links to poorly written documents which don't really explain it, FAQ's that don't exist, and web pages containing only the word manganese (try http://blogspace.com/rss/ and hit the first link at the top that says Content Syndication with XML and RSS weblog). The only xml schemas I've been able to find for rss (though xsd is _the_ standard for defining xml dialects like rss) were not only written in an old version of xsd, but also didn't validate as a result of using elements that didn't exist in the xsd or an xsd referenced by namespace. Anyway... If anybody on the list has any real simple rss information (as opposed to the really incomplete, really complicated, really undocumented, really broken and really not well maintained rss info I've found), I'd be greatly appreciative. Thanks, Isaac ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: real simple syndication (rss)
Isaac, Unless you've an RDF fan, all you need is at: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss That's also the first hit on Google for RSS, so it's pretty easy to find. If you *do* love RDF, then you need to look at: http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/ To find out what's wrong with your feed (no matter what version), run it through a validator: http://feeds.archive.org/validator/ And what I've found is that, although there seems to be a work group for RSS, the vast majority of RSS information on the web is found in unnoficial (looking ?) sites... Netscape abandoned RSS many years ago, so there is no official home for it... in the meantime, several competing groups have laid claim to the name. All you need to figure out is if you want to do straight XML or RDF/XML and proceed accordingly. -- Roger Benningfield JournURL community-powered weblogs diaries work: http://journurl.com/ blog: http://admin.support.journurl.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: real simple syndication (rss)
Thanks Johan, much appreciated... Funny... the author's name is the same name on the site that has only the word manganese on it. :) Oh! Manganese! That explains everything! :) Anyway, Thanks Johan, I'm gonna see if I can find a copy of the book or the DRK maybe. Isaac DRK3 includes CF code/examples for RSS reader and a feed generator. O'Reilly book - Content Syndication with RSS by Ben Hammersley is pretty good with many examples. Covers various standards well. Johan Johan Steenkamp www.assetnow.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: ot: real simple syndication (rss) I realize this is off-topic, but at the moment, my take on it is that real simple syndication is real stupid for something that seems to be so widely talked about and/or used. I mean, I see people putting RSS stuff on their blogs and whatnot all the time, so yesterday I tried to do the same 'cause a friend of mine mentioned wanting to be able to read the onTap framework blog on the bus on his way to work. All seemed well except that where he's able to use hyperlinks from other folks rss feeds, he doesn't seem to be able to use any of mine. So I went looking for an rss reader to see if I could duplicate the problem. And what I've found is that, although there seems to be a work group for RSS, the vast majority of RSS information on the web is found in unnoficial (looking ?) sites with lots of circular links to poorly written documents which don't really explain it, FAQ's that don't exist, and web pages containing only the word manganese (try http://blogspace.com/rss/ and hit the first link at the top that says Content Syndication with XML and RSS weblog). The only xml schemas I've been able to find for rss (though xsd is _the_ standard for defining xml dialects like rss) were not only written in an old version of xsd, but also didn't validate as a result of using elements that didn't exist in the xsd or an xsd referenced by namespace. Anyway... If anybody on the list has any real simple rss information (as opposed to the really incomplete, really complicated, really undocumented, really broken and really not well maintained rss info I've found), I'd be greatly appreciative. Thanks, Isaac ~~ ~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubsc ribe.cfm?user=633.558.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com s. isaac dealey972-490-6624 team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team chief architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to onTap is open source http://www.turnkey.to/ontap ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
