RE: who on here did the death clock?
I read an article a while back about a company that is already doing this. I wish I could remember were I saw it... The company has some custom software running that tries all possible permutations and bounces each result against a filter to eliminate obvious gibberish and such. I think it was only stories and food recipes right now; I don't think they were trying to generate any code. For the recipes, they pull the most promising ones and have a staff of chefs to try them out. Most turn out awful, but they had come up with a couple that added one or two weird ingredients to traditional recipes that turned out surprisingly good. The whole "million monkeys for a million years thing"... On the wall of their office, the have a poster on which is printed one of the software's early writings: "To be, or not to be." I will be interesting to see where this heads. Will computers eventually make even creativity obsolete? Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education & Training Professional Development & Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David R. McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? "By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any language" I thought of an idea for a movie once, calling it "Duce Ex Machina" - it's latin for God machine. Think about a program that systematically goes through every combination of 1,000,000 chars... and then checks it to see if its executable... Eventually, it will code its self but better, Eventually it will code everything... and excute it. It would write novels, movie scripts, And in theroy, it would eventually write a 1,000,000 character story about YOU, ever detail being 100% correct. So if it creates itself but better, it will eventually create the perfect AI. and therefore become "the God Machine" Although it would create Tera bytes of worthless crap too. But its a neat idea for a movie. David R. McGraw II ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
Think I'll stick to using monkeys to write my code for the minute. ;o) - Original Message - From: "David R. McGraw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > "By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any > language" > > I thought of an idea for a movie once, calling it > "Duce Ex Machina" - it's latin for God machine. > > Think about a program that systematically goes through every combination of > 1,000,000 chars... > and then checks it to see if its executable... > > Eventually, it will code its self but better, > Eventually it will code everything... > and excute it. > > It would write novels, > movie scripts, > And in theroy, it would eventually write a 1,000,000 character story about > YOU, > ever detail being 100% correct. > > So if it creates itself but better, > it will eventually create the perfect AI. > and therefore become "the God Machine" > > Although it would create Tera bytes of worthless crap too. > But its a neat idea for a movie. > > David R. McGraw II > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > Nah, he'll just run the exploit code and think himself 'l337. > > -- > Mosh Teitelbaum > evoch, LLC > Tel: (301) 942-5378 > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:16 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > believe me, no kid here in ky will ever be that smart! > > > > > > Dave > > > > -- .::. - > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:04 AM > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any > > language > > > and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. > > > > > > I wonder how much code I will do by then. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > > > > > I believe its still running on an access database after all these years > > and > > > all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning > > radio shows > > > across the globe... > > > > > > ;o) > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM > > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > > What is the "Death Clock"? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > > > anyone know who it is? > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
And a scary thought Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: David R. McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? "By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any language" I thought of an idea for a movie once, calling it "Duce Ex Machina" - it's latin for God machine. Think about a program that systematically goes through every combination of 1,000,000 chars... and then checks it to see if its executable... Eventually, it will code its self but better, Eventually it will code everything... and excute it. It would write novels, movie scripts, And in theroy, it would eventually write a 1,000,000 character story about YOU, ever detail being 100% correct. So if it creates itself but better, it will eventually create the perfect AI. and therefore become "the God Machine" Although it would create Tera bytes of worthless crap too. But its a neat idea for a movie. David R. McGraw II -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? Nah, he'll just run the exploit code and think himself 'l337. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 942-5378 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:16 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > believe me, no kid here in ky will ever be that smart! > > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any > language > > and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. > > > > I wonder how much code I will do by then. > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > > > I believe its still running on an access database after all these years > and > > all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning > radio shows > > across the globe... > > > > ;o) > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > What is the "Death Clock"? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > > anyone know who it is? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
"By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any language" I thought of an idea for a movie once, calling it "Duce Ex Machina" - it's latin for God machine. Think about a program that systematically goes through every combination of 1,000,000 chars... and then checks it to see if its executable... Eventually, it will code its self but better, Eventually it will code everything... and excute it. It would write novels, movie scripts, And in theroy, it would eventually write a 1,000,000 character story about YOU, ever detail being 100% correct. So if it creates itself but better, it will eventually create the perfect AI. and therefore become "the God Machine" Although it would create Tera bytes of worthless crap too. But its a neat idea for a movie. David R. McGraw II -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? Nah, he'll just run the exploit code and think himself 'l337. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 942-5378 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:16 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > believe me, no kid here in ky will ever be that smart! > > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any > language > > and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. > > > > I wonder how much code I will do by then. > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > > > I believe its still running on an access database after all these years > and > > all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning > radio shows > > across the globe... > > > > ;o) > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > What is the "Death Clock"? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > > anyone know who it is? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
Nah, he'll just run the exploit code and think himself 'l337. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 942-5378 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:16 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > believe me, no kid here in ky will ever be that smart! > > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any > language > > and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. > > > > I wonder how much code I will do by then. > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > > > I believe its still running on an access database after all these years > and > > all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning > radio shows > > across the globe... > > > > ;o) > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM > > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > What is the "Death Clock"? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > > anyone know who it is? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
believe me, no kid here in ky will ever be that smart! Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any language > and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. > > > > -Original Message- > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. > > I wonder how much code I will do by then. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and > all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows > across the globe... > > ;o) > > - Original Message - > From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > What is the "Death Clock"? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > anyone know who it is? > > > > Dave > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
By then all code will be written by a program that can code in any language and was created by a 9 year old from Pineville KY. -Original Message- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. I wonder how much code I will do by then. Rick -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? http://www.deathclock.com/ I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows across the globe... ;o) - Original Message - From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > What is the "Death Clock"? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
the question is not how much code, but rather how many non CF related emails will be sent to the list :-) j/k -Original Message- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. I wonder how much code I will do by then. Rick -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? http://www.deathclock.com/ I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows across the globe... ;o) - Original Message - From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > What is the "Death Clock"? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
it told me i was gonna die in 2018i'll only be 50...wanna trade death dates? -Original Message- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. I wonder how much code I will do by then. Rick -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? http://www.deathclock.com/ I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows across the globe... ;o) - Original Message - From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > What is the "Death Clock"? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
I am going to die in 2072 I will be 104. I wonder how much code I will do by then. Rick -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? http://www.deathclock.com/ I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows across the globe... ;o) - Original Message - From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > What is the "Death Clock"? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
http://www.corporateradiosucksass.com/ Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? true clearchannel the M$ of radio but this was kinda one of those, and i was just surfing and i found this really disturbing site, deals who knows but then again they are the only ones I know of that have the "thong of the day" www.foxrocks.com (tony dont get caught!) Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the radio > stations... > Payola does exist. > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which play > them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a room. > > At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >lol, > >guess its the competition thing! > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > >Dave > > > >-- .::. - > > > >----- Original Message - > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in > >Raleigh was going on about > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville > >radio > > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > > > DL> Dave > > > > > > DL> -- .::. - > > > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > > >> > > > >> :) > > > >> > > > >> Pablo > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > > > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > > > >> > anyone know who it is? > > > >> > > > > >> > Dave > > > >> > > > > >> > -- .::. - > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > DL> > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
Raymond, how much would you charge me to put a banner and link on there :) Dave hell I gotta ask! - Original Message - From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > Just a tiny bit - 3 times or so. Yesterday I had 300k page views, day > before that 225. Normal traffic is around 100k. > > === > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus > Yahoo IM : morpheus > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:55 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > I wonder if Raymond noticed a significant increase in traffic > > the last 2 days then? I see the man of the day is on now > > > > Dave > > > > -- .::. - > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Whittaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:29 AM > > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > At least radio 1 in the uk are honest about their list > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/playlist/alist.shtml > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
Just a tiny bit - 3 times or so. Yesterday I had 300k page views, day before that 225. Normal traffic is around 100k. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:55 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > I wonder if Raymond noticed a significant increase in traffic > the last 2 days then? I see the man of the day is on now > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > - Original Message - > From: "Simon Whittaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > At least radio 1 in the uk are honest about their list > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/playlist/alist.shtml > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
Best of all - the site serves up 3+ million hits a month... and runs on Access. ;) (Because I'm too cheap to pay for SQL Server. :>) === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:18 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local > Louisville radio stations was talking about it today, was > quite amusing. they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > Dave ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
I wonder if Raymond noticed a significant increase in traffic the last 2 days then? I see the man of the day is on now Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Simon Whittaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:29 AM Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > At least radio 1 in the uk are honest about their list > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/playlist/alist.shtml > > > Simon > - Original Message - > From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:21 PM > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > > These consultants are usually called Indies and our paid by the record > > labels, as much as $1000 per spin in major markets. The indie goes up to > a > > radio station and says "I'll give you X amount in promotional dollars if > > you'll sign an exclusive contract with me." Whenever you see a radio > > station offering some promotion, such as a free trip to England to see a > > band, usually an Indie donated it to the record station. Whenever a song > > is added tot he playlist, the indie bills a record company. > > > > The only thing I can say in addition to Scott's words is that my > > understanding is that DJs no longer have any say in playlists, it all goes > > through a programming manager and the programming manager gets everything > > from the Indie (consultant). > > > > It is a completely legal loop-hole to the payola laws. The consultant > is > > independent of both the radio station and the record company. > > > > At 08:55 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Off topic > > > > > >I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get > > >their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of > > >songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed > > >differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From > > >there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends > > >playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... > > > > > >These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one > > >consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania > > >Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as > > >the label execs. > > > > > >As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the > > >consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it > > >fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using > > >multiple sound cards. > > > > > >Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry > > > > > >Scott > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM > > >To: CF-Talk > > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the > > >radio > > >stations... > > > Payola does exist. > > > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which > > >play > > >them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > > > > > >stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a > > >room. > > > > > >At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >lol, > > > >guess its the competition thing! > > > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 > > >minutes > > > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > > > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > > > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > > > > > >Dave > > > > > > > >-- .::. - > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > > > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > > > >Subject: Re: who
Re: who on here did the death clock?
At least radio 1 in the uk are honest about their list http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/playlist/alist.shtml Simon - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > These consultants are usually called Indies and our paid by the record > labels, as much as $1000 per spin in major markets. The indie goes up to a > radio station and says "I'll give you X amount in promotional dollars if > you'll sign an exclusive contract with me." Whenever you see a radio > station offering some promotion, such as a free trip to England to see a > band, usually an Indie donated it to the record station. Whenever a song > is added tot he playlist, the indie bills a record company. > > The only thing I can say in addition to Scott's words is that my > understanding is that DJs no longer have any say in playlists, it all goes > through a programming manager and the programming manager gets everything > from the Indie (consultant). > > It is a completely legal loop-hole to the payola laws. The consultant is > independent of both the radio station and the record company. > > At 08:55 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >Off topic > > > >I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get > >their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of > >songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed > >differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From > >there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends > >playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... > > > >These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one > >consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania > >Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as > >the label execs. > > > >As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the > >consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it > >fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using > >multiple sound cards. > > > >Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry > > > >Scott > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM > >To: CF-Talk > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the > >radio > >stations... > > Payola does exist. > > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which > >play > >them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > > > >stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a > >room. > > > >At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >lol, > > >guess its the competition thing! > > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 > >minutes > > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > > > >Dave > > > > > >-- .::. - > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio > >station in > > >Raleigh was going on about > > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local > >Louisville > > >radio > > > > DL> stations was talking abou
Re: who on here did the death clock?
http://www.deathclock.com/ I believe its still running on an access database after all these years and all the traffic generated by it being talked about on morning radio shows across the globe... ;o) - Original Message - From: "Luce, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > What is the "Death Clock"? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
must have been mentioned in an email or something to the dj's unless raymond is on a big ad campaign with it! haha Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Houk, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > Yep, it was mentioned on the Philadelphia station 96.5 yesterday morning. Pretty funny... > > -Original Message- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:21 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? > > > These consultants are usually called Indies and our paid by the record > labels, as much as $1000 per spin in major markets. The indie goes up to a > radio station and says "I'll give you X amount in promotional dollars if > you'll sign an exclusive contract with me." Whenever you see a radio > station offering some promotion, such as a free trip to England to see a > band, usually an Indie donated it to the record station. Whenever a song > is added tot he playlist, the indie bills a record company. > > The only thing I can say in addition to Scott's words is that my > understanding is that DJs no longer have any say in playlists, it all goes > through a programming manager and the programming manager gets everything > from the Indie (consultant). > > It is a completely legal loop-hole to the payola laws. The consultant is > independent of both the radio station and the record company. > > At 08:55 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >Off topic > > > >I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get > >their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of > >songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed > >differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From > >there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends > >playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... > > > >These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one > >consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania > >Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as > >the label execs. > > > >As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the > >consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it > >fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using > >multiple sound cards. > > > >Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry > > > >Scott > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM > >To: CF-Talk > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the > >radio > >stations... > > Payola does exist. > > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which > >play > >them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > > > >stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a > >room. > > > >At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >lol, > > >guess its the competition thing! > > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 > >minutes > > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > > > >Dave > > > > > >-- .::. - > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio > >station in > > >Raleigh was going on about > > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
RE: who on here did the death clock?
Yep, it was mentioned on the Philadelphia station 96.5 yesterday morning. Pretty funny... -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: who on here did the death clock? These consultants are usually called Indies and our paid by the record labels, as much as $1000 per spin in major markets. The indie goes up to a radio station and says "I'll give you X amount in promotional dollars if you'll sign an exclusive contract with me." Whenever you see a radio station offering some promotion, such as a free trip to England to see a band, usually an Indie donated it to the record station. Whenever a song is added tot he playlist, the indie bills a record company. The only thing I can say in addition to Scott's words is that my understanding is that DJs no longer have any say in playlists, it all goes through a programming manager and the programming manager gets everything from the Indie (consultant). It is a completely legal loop-hole to the payola laws. The consultant is independent of both the radio station and the record company. At 08:55 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Off topic > >I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get >their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of >songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed >differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From >there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends >playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... > >These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one >consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania >Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as >the label execs. > >As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the >consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it >fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using >multiple sound cards. > >Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry > >Scott > >-Original Message- >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the >radio >stations... > Payola does exist. > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which >play >them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > >stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a >room. > >At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >lol, > >guess its the competition thing! > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 >minutes > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > >Dave > > > >------ .::. - > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio >station in > >Raleigh was going on about > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local >Louisville > >radio > > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > > > DL> Dave > > > > > > DL> -- .::. - > > > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > &
RE: who on here did the death clock?
What is the "Death Clock"? -Original Message- From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: who on here did the death clock? i know someone here did the death clock anyone know who it is? Dave -- .::. - ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
These consultants are usually called Indies and our paid by the record labels, as much as $1000 per spin in major markets. The indie goes up to a radio station and says "I'll give you X amount in promotional dollars if you'll sign an exclusive contract with me." Whenever you see a radio station offering some promotion, such as a free trip to England to see a band, usually an Indie donated it to the record station. Whenever a song is added tot he playlist, the indie bills a record company. The only thing I can say in addition to Scott's words is that my understanding is that DJs no longer have any say in playlists, it all goes through a programming manager and the programming manager gets everything from the Indie (consultant). It is a completely legal loop-hole to the payola laws. The consultant is independent of both the radio station and the record company. At 08:55 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Off topic > >I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get >their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of >songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed >differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From >there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends >playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... > >These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one >consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania >Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as >the label execs. > >As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the >consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it >fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using >multiple sound cards. > >Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry > >Scott > >-Original Message- >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the >radio >stations... > Payola does exist. > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which >play >them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > >stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a >room. > >At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >lol, > >guess its the competition thing! > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 >minutes > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > >Dave > > > >------ .::. - > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio >station in > >Raleigh was going on about > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local >Louisville > >radio > > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > > > DL> Dave > > > > > > DL> -- .::. - > > > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > > >> > > > >> :) > > > >> > > > >> Pablo > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "D
RE: who on here did the death clock?
I used to help out with a few radio stations in West Palm beach, they had music piped in sometimes, buy pretty much their systems played MP3 files as opposed to actually getting a CD. Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the radio stations... Payola does exist. Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which play them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a room. At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >lol, >guess its the competition thing! >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > >Dave > >-- .::. - > >- Original Message - >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in >Raleigh was going on about > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville >radio > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > DL> Dave > > > > DL> ---------- .::. - > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > >> > > >> :) > > >> > > >> Pablo > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > >> > > >> > > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > > >> > anyone know who it is? > > >> > > > >> > Dave > > >> > > > >> > -- .::. - > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > DL> > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
true clearchannel the M$ of radio but this was kinda one of those, and i was just surfing and i found this really disturbing site, deals who knows but then again they are the only ones I know of that have the "thong of the day" www.foxrocks.com (tony dont get caught!) Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the radio > stations... > Payola does exist. > Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which play > them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio > stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a room. > > At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >lol, > >guess its the competition thing! > >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes > >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u > >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > > > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > > > >Dave > > > >-- .::. - > > > >----- Original Message - > >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM > >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in > >Raleigh was going on about > > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville > >radio > > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > > > DL> Dave > > > > > > DL> -- .::. - > > > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > > >> > > > >> :) > > > >> > > > >> Pablo > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > > > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > > > >> > anyone know who it is? > > > >> > > > > >> > Dave > > > >> > > > > >> > -- .::. - > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > DL> > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: who on here did the death clock?
Off topic I used to work for a radio station, and the way the DJ's normally get their playlists is through a consultant. The consultant makes a list of songs in 3 groups; high medium, or low rotation (they are termed differently consultant to consultant, but you get the idea). From there, the DJ only plays those songs. And if the consultant recommends playing a certain song, then the DJ does just that... These consultants go to conferences & hang-out with the singers (the one consultant I met has hung out with Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Shania Twain & others, just to name a few, on multiple occasions), as well as the label execs. As far as plugging in the playlists, once the DJ gets the list from the consultant, they create a playlist, much like you do in Winamp, and it fires along, cross-fading commercials or other songs into it using multiple sound cards. Sorry, I know more than I want to about the radio industry Scott -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the radio stations... Payola does exist. Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which play them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a room. At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >lol, >guess its the competition thing! >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > >Dave > >-- .::. - > >- Original Message - >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in >Raleigh was going on about > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville >radio > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > DL> Dave > > > > DL> ------ .::. - > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > >> > > >> :) > > >> > > >> Pablo > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > >> > > >> > > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > > >> > anyone know who it is? > > >> > > > >> > Dave > > >> > > > >> > -- .::. - > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > DL> > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
Off topic here, but Clear Channel owns a significant portion of the radio stations... Payola does exist. Most playlists are "piped in" (I'm not sure how) to computers which play them. The DJs have no control. I've heard that the three biggest radio stations in Connecticut are three computers sitting side by side in a room. At 08:28 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >lol, >guess its the competition thing! >like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes >later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u >scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha > >ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today > >Dave > >-- .::. - > >- Original Message - >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM >Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > oi Dave!! > > > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in >Raleigh was going on about > > it this morning as well. > > > > > > Critz > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville >radio > > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > > > DL> Dave > > > > DL> ---------- .::. - > > > > DL> - Original Message - > > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > > >> > > >> :) > > >> > > >> Pablo > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > >> > > >> > > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > > >> > anyone know who it is? > > >> > > > >> > Dave > > >> > > > >> > -- .::. - > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > DL> > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
lol, guess its the competition thing! like when you hear a song on one station then switch to another 5 minutes later and its on and its always some really off the wall song. makes u scratch your nads and wonder if competition really exists! haha ok, no sleep hasn't made me any funnier today Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > oi Dave!! > > ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in Raleigh was going on about > it this morning as well. > > > Critz > > > > > > Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: > > DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. > > DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville radio > DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. > DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol > > DL> Dave > > DL> -- .::. - > > DL> - Original Message - > DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM > DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > > > >> That would be Raymond Camden > >> > >> :) > >> > >> Pablo > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? > >> > >> > >> > i know someone here did the death clock > >> > anyone know who it is? > >> > > >> > Dave > >> > > >> > -- .::. - > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > DL> > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
oi Dave!! ha. they must get their ideas from same place, because radio station in Raleigh was going on about it this morning as well. Critz Thursday, February 6, 2003, 1:18:10 AM, you wrote: DL> awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. DL> was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville radio DL> stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. DL> they were quite intrigued with it, lol DL> Dave DL> -- .::. - DL> - Original Message - DL> From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DL> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DL> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM DL> Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? >> That would be Raymond Camden >> >> :) >> >> Pablo >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM >> Subject: who on here did the death clock? >> >> >> > i know someone here did the death clock >> > anyone know who it is? >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > -- .::. - >> > >> > >> > >> > >> DL> ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
Ray Camden did it I thought. At 12:56 AM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: >i know someone here did the death clock >anyone know who it is? > >Dave > >-- .::. - > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
awee, that's right, I knew I had seen it somewhere. was just funny, I was driving today and one of the local Louisville radio stations was talking about it today, was quite amusing. they were quite intrigued with it, lol Dave -- .::. - - Original Message - From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:09 AM Subject: Re: who on here did the death clock? > That would be Raymond Camden > > :) > > Pablo > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM > Subject: who on here did the death clock? > > > > i know someone here did the death clock > > anyone know who it is? > > > > Dave > > > > -- .::. - > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: who on here did the death clock?
That would be Raymond Camden :) Pablo - Original Message - From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: who on here did the death clock? > i know someone here did the death clock > anyone know who it is? > > Dave > > -- .::. - > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
