Re: CFFORM Flash form
On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:32, Artur Kordowski wrote: > I cant imagine that they can do that. Because including external AS files > have noting to do with the CF compiler. In this case they had to rewrite > the flash compiler. And when it still works, why dont use it? If URL.contains(cfm) abort; -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234822 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
I suspect that flash forms are havily used in Application based CF sites rather than public style apps MD On 3/9/06, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms? I > > am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are > > seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go. > > > > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and > cons? > > I would like to see some real-world examples of Flash Forms on a site with > decent traffic. I suspect there are none. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234820 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
> Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms? I > am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are > seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go. > > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons? I would like to see some real-world examples of Flash Forms on a site with decent traffic. I suspect there are none. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234817 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFFORM Flash form
I cant imagine that they can do that. Because including external AS files have noting to do with the CF compiler. In this case they had to rewrite the flash compiler. And when it still works, why dont use it? -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFFORM Flash form On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:01, Artur Kordowski wrote: > If > you use them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. For now. MacroMedia certainly had a habit of shutting the door on things like that. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234810 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:01, Artur Kordowski wrote: > If > you use them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. For now. MacroMedia certainly had a habit of shutting the door on things like that. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234807 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFFORM Flash form
Hi Wally, I think CF FlashForms are a very powerfull feature in ColdFusion, cause you got with it the whole Flex 1.5 Framework. The docs keep it secret but you can develop realy Web 2.0 apps, beyond that what the docs described. But you need for this some ActionScript and Flex knowledge. For example, the docs tells that there are some restricted AS words that you cant use. If you use them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. So it makes you able to create e.g. dynamicly controls. You can also write own MXML classes and use them. I found also a way to use controls that are not supported by CF like Slider, NumericStepper, etc. I've posted some articles about that on my blog (http://www.newsight.de) and made some custom tags for this. Ok, you have to use often workarounds to get the Flex functionality but it is possible. You can create apps there similar to Flex apps. And this is the big pro for me. You should only know how to do it. Cheers, Artur -Original Message- From: Wally Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFFORM Flash form Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms? I am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go. Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234803 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
Hi Wally. Check the archives. This has come up a few times in the last couple months. The most complained about aspect is speed. I am currently working on a project using flash forms and have noticed some other things that I (and some users) dont really like. I'm very much a novice at it, so these things perhaps are easily fixed. For example, just hitting 'enter' will not submit a form. Even if the submit button has the focus. If the form is using the tabnavigator or accordion layout, the back button on the browser usually takes you back to the previous tab, instead of the previous page. There are a few other minor things that have annoyed me a little bit. I am sticking with flash forms on this project only because I want to learn more about flash remoting, which is pretty cool. Again, the things I mentioned are probably easily fixed by somebody who has a little more experience with them than I do. Development time for me as been MUCH slower because of my lack of experience. Steve Wally Randall wrote: > Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms? I am > seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are seduced by > the look and feel and think this is the way to go. > > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons? > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234793 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
I wonder with Flex 2 around the corner if the forms could just be built in that then work off of CFM web services to allow for a quicker user experience. Would think it would eliminate the need to reload the form after submitting it when inserting/updating multiple records. On 3/9/06, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wally Randall wrote: > > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons? > > uh, don't submit them. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234792 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFFORM Flash form
Wally Randall wrote: > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons? uh, don't submit them. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234791 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54