Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:32, Artur Kordowski wrote:
> I cant imagine that they can do that. Because including external AS files
> have noting to do with the CF compiler. In this case they had to rewrite
> the flash compiler. And when it still works, why dont use it?



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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Mark Drew
I suspect that flash forms are havily used in Application based CF sites
rather than public style apps


MD


On 3/9/06, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms?  I
> > am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are
> > seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go.
> >
> > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and
> cons?
>
> I would like to see some real-world examples of Flash Forms on a site with
> decent traffic. I suspect there are none.
>
> 

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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Irvin Gomez
> Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms?  I 
> am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are 
> seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go.
> 
> Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and 
cons?

I would like to see some real-world examples of Flash Forms on a site with 
decent traffic. I suspect there are none.

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RE: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Artur Kordowski
I cant imagine that they can do that. Because including external AS files
have noting to do with the CF compiler. In this case they had to rewrite the
flash compiler. And when it still works, why dont use it?

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From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:17 PM
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Subject: Re: CFFORM Flash form

On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:01, Artur Kordowski wrote:
> If
> you use them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. 

For now.
MacroMedia certainly had a habit of shutting the door on things like that.

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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:01, Artur Kordowski wrote:
> If
> you use them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. 

For now.
MacroMedia certainly had a habit of shutting the door on things like that.

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RE: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Artur Kordowski
Hi Wally,

I think CF FlashForms are a very powerfull feature in ColdFusion, cause you
got with it the whole Flex 1.5 Framework. The docs keep it secret but you
can develop realy Web 2.0 apps, beyond that what the docs described. But you
need for this some ActionScript and Flex knowledge. For example, the docs
tells that there are some restricted AS words that you cant use. If you use
them in a external AS file you can use them without problems. So it makes
you able to create e.g. dynamicly controls. You can also write own MXML
classes and use them. I found also a way to use controls that are not
supported by CF like Slider, NumericStepper, etc. I've posted some articles
about that on my blog (http://www.newsight.de) and made some custom tags for
this. Ok, you have to use often workarounds to get the Flex functionality
but it is possible. You can create apps there similar to Flex apps. And this
is the big pro for me. You should only know how to do it.

Cheers, Artur


-Original Message-
From: Wally Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFORM Flash form

Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms?  I am
seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are seduced by
the look and feel and think this is the way to go.

Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons?



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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Milburn
Hi Wally.

Check the archives.  This has come up a few times in the last couple 
months.  The most complained about aspect is speed.  I am currently 
working on a project using flash forms and have noticed some other 
things that I (and some users) dont really like.  I'm very much a novice 
at it, so these things perhaps are easily fixed. 

For example, just hitting 'enter' will not submit a form.  Even if the 
submit button has the focus.  If the form is using the tabnavigator or 
accordion layout, the back button on the browser usually takes you back 
to the previous tab, instead of the previous page.  There are a few 
other minor things that have annoyed me a little bit.  I am sticking 
with flash forms on this project only because I want to learn more about 
flash remoting, which is pretty cool.

Again, the things I mentioned are probably easily fixed by somebody who 
has a little more experience with them than I do.  Development time for 
me as been MUCH slower because of my lack of experience.

Steve

Wally Randall wrote:
> Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms?  I am 
> seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are seduced by 
> the look and feel and think this is the way to go.
>
> Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons?
>
> 

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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Aaron Rouse
I wonder with Flex 2 around the corner if the forms could just be built in
that then work off of CFM web services to allow for a quicker user
experience.  Would think it would eliminate the need to reload the form
after submitting it when inserting/updating multiple records.

On 3/9/06, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wally Randall wrote:
> > Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons?
>
> uh, don't submit them.
>
> 

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Re: CFFORM Flash form

2006-03-09 Thread Paul Hastings
Wally Randall wrote:
> Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and cons?

uh, don't submit them.

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