Re: Linux Newbie
On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 21:37 pm, Nathan Strutz wrote: > a boot manager like grep grub -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Linux Newbie
I'm a newbie as well... 1. a new mandrake just came out, i hear that's good. I always stick with redhat because it's popular. 2. ... for dummies series is a great start. 3. partition your drives in half, install XP, then linux. Choose to install a boot manager like grep when you install linux. You might have to partition your linux drives by yourself in the linux setup, as it prefers to have a swap partition, a main partition, and sometimes more. (i did this a few weeks ago, still don't know what i'm doing) -nathan strutz -Original Message- From: GH - CF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Linux Newbie I want to get in to linux... got 3 questions 1. What distro is best? 2. Any one recomend a good book on beginning with Linux? 3. Also, how can I dual boot it with WinXP Pro? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
I think the kernal is 2.4.21. But when I think about it, I haven't actually used the data in Windows. (I use Windows data in Linux and Linux data in Linux, but not Linux data in Windows.) Matt Liotta wrote: >>I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9). >> >> >> >Which kernel are you using and are you writing to NTFS from Linux and >then making use of the data from Windows later? > >Matt Liotta >President & CEO >Montara Software, Inc. >http://www.MontaraSoftware.com >(888) 408-0900 x901 > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
> I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9). > Which kernel are you using and are you writing to NTFS from Linux and then making use of the data from Windows later? Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137409 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9). Matt Liotta wrote: >>Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem >>using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think >>you'll be >>able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the >>Linux >>install, though. >> >> >> >NTFS support in Linux is always up in the air. Last I heard, they have >a special Windows tool that you have to run in order to use NTFS in >Windows after Linux mucked with it. > >Matt Liotta >President & CEO >Montara Software, Inc. >http://www.MontaraSoftware.com >(888) 408-0900 x901 > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137406 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
> Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem > using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think > you'll be > able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the > Linux > install, though. > NTFS support in Linux is always up in the air. Last I heard, they have a special Windows tool that you have to run in order to use NTFS in Windows after Linux mucked with it. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137402 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Linux Newbie Advice
> > Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? > > If so, installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially > > if you end up repartitioning or reformatting). You might want > > to try NT Locksmith and/or NT Recover: ... > > Assuming NTFS wasn't used then the file system could be accessed > directly from Linux without issue. Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think you'll be able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the Linux install, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137398 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
Nope...no valued data...just thought i might need to get access to Windows to toast it and get Linux ontotal drive wipe is fine ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: RE: Linux Newbie Advice > > One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost. > > Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so, > installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up > repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith and/or > NT Recover: > > http://www.winternals.com/ > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > voice: (202) 797-5496 > fax: (202) 797-5444 > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137392 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
> Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so, > installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up > repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith > and/or > NT Recover: > Assuming NTFS wasn't used then the file system could be accessed directly from Linux without issue. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Linux Newbie Advice
> One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost. Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so, installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith and/or NT Recover: http://www.winternals.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137368 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Linux Newbie Advice
Bryan, Overall, I found SuSE 8.2 to be the easiest to install on an older machine. I'm a complete Linux newbie and didn't want to fool with the comand line during installation. SuSE install was straightforward and went without any hitches. It even recognized my windows network connection and DHCP and I can surf the net without any additional configuration. Others I tried: - I could install Mandrake 7.2, but it didn't recognize the D-Link DFE-530TX+ (my ethernet card). I found a Linux driver but coudn't really follow the install instructions, so I bailed out. - I couldn't install RedHat 9.1 because it didn't seem to work with my video card. My computer is old enough that I don't even have an AGP port. So RedHat 9.1 was out of the question (although I installed it on my laptop without issue). I picked SuSE because it had a reputation for ease of installation and it supposedly will support CFMX 6.1, although I have not tried installing CF yet. Hope this helps, from one newb to another. Oh yeah, I installed Linux right over Windows 98 -- it wipes the drive. -- Marc A. Garrett since1968.com "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hey All, > > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do I have > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137365 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Linux Newbie Advice
hippy stuff? LOL! I guess a proper introduction to this would be RTFM! Ha! Yeah, you should be able to grab redhat, mandrake, etc and install right over your windows install. The installers usually run a proggy to partition/format your drive and all. What flavour to use? Try them all and settle on the one you like. Redhat is fairly popular, a good start probably. I've been a Slackware fan myself, but that's real old skool hippy like I suppose. http://linuxiso.org for all of them. Have fun! Doug >-Original Message- >From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:09 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: OT: Linux Newbie Advice > > >Hey All, > >OK...so I'm going to give this open source hippie stuff a whirl ;-) > >I have an old AMD K6-2 400 MHz box with Win2K Pro currently installed > >One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost. > >So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot >up)? or do I have >to wipe the drive first (FDisk)? > >What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e. >RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)? Bear in mind I know very little about >Linux and I don't want to play the command line game. So a >package that has >a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X >Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe). > >So at this point...any and all advice is welcome (and feel >free to send me >info offlist). > >TIA > >Cheers > >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. >t. 250.920.8830 >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- >Macromedia Associate Partner >www.macromedia.com >- >Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group >Founder & Director >www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:137352 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
