Re: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?

2009-01-16 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Thanks, Michael, that put me on the right track.  However, I also had
to disable the anonymous user access in order for it to work as
expected.

Thanks again,

Pete

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Dawson, Michael  wrote:
> I forget the actual option, but it's not Basic Authentication or Digest
> Authentication.  It's the other one.  ;-)
>
> Turn that on and IE should, by default, send the user's credentials to
> the web server.  As mentioned in a recent, similar post, it sends the
> hash, not the password.
>
> However, you can assume that, by that point, the user has already been
> authenticated by the workstation.
>
> I don't like this method because I like to sit down at another user's
> computer and log in with my credentials.
>
> I'm not sure of your sysadmin's reasons, but they seem quite
> narrow-minded.  If they won't let your web app interact with the DCs, I
> bet they hate having workstations connect to the DCs, as well.  Seems
> kinda silly.
>
> They won't even allow LDAP access?
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?
>
> I'm building an intranet application.  Users will not necessarily be
> logged in, but there are things that I need to track; all users are
> logged into the NT domain on their computers, is it possible to get the
> username that the person is logged into their PC as?  Using
> cfntauthenticate isn't an option, the sysadmins won't allow this app to
> interface with the domain controller in any way.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?

2009-01-15 Thread Matthew Small
You have to force some sort of login against the domain to guarntee this 
infomration (I suggest Integrated Windows Authentication (assuming IIS... other 
webservers probably have IWA as well)) .  Given IE and if the domain name 
either does not contain dots (as in myserver.com) or if it's added to the local 
intranet zone, the authenitcation credentials will be automatically passed to 
the webserver.  You can then grab the infomration however you need to do it - 
perhaps from the CGI vars, but maybe there are other ways to do it as as well...

I'm not a CF expert, but I know IIS very well.



>I'm building an intranet application.  Users will not necessarily be
>logged in, but there are things that I need to track; all users are
>logged into the NT domain on their computers, is it possible to get
>the username that the person is logged into their PC as?  Using
>cfntauthenticate isn't an option, the sysadmins won't allow this app
>to interface with the domain controller in any way.
>
>Thanks
>
>Pete 

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RE: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?

2009-01-15 Thread Dawson, Michael
I forget the actual option, but it's not Basic Authentication or Digest
Authentication.  It's the other one.  ;-)

Turn that on and IE should, by default, send the user's credentials to
the web server.  As mentioned in a recent, similar post, it sends the
hash, not the password.

However, you can assume that, by that point, the user has already been
authenticated by the workstation.

I don't like this method because I like to sit down at another user's
computer and log in with my credentials.

I'm not sure of your sysadmin's reasons, but they seem quite
narrow-minded.  If they won't let your web app interact with the DCs, I
bet they hate having workstations connect to the DCs, as well.  Seems
kinda silly.

They won't even allow LDAP access?

mike

-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?

I'm building an intranet application.  Users will not necessarily be
logged in, but there are things that I need to track; all users are
logged into the NT domain on their computers, is it possible to get the
username that the person is logged into their PC as?  Using
cfntauthenticate isn't an option, the sysadmins won't allow this app to
interface with the domain controller in any way.

Thanks

Pete



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re: Possible to get NT domain user without cfntauthenticate?

2009-01-15 Thread Jason Fisher
Without an agent on the server, such as SiteMinder which adds headers to the 
HTTP response, the browser can only get auth information if the user is logging 
into the website (i.e., basic auth is off).





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