RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
Isn't Spectra dead? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. " -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
Sort of. There aren't any new versions of it coming out; but it is still available. I think it was said that it was left to the 'community source' model of support? I guess that means that it's not dead, they just stopped feeding it. At 11:15 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Isn't Spectra dead? > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> >Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. > >Mike Brunt >Sempra Energy >213.244.5226 > >"A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved >from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! > > >Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something >besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the >darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes > > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
I don't think so much dead as just no longer being added to. I'm sure MACR supports it still but 1.51 or something was the last feature release. I think that's it, right? :) J. John Wilker Web Applications Consultant, and Author Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG. www.red-omega.com "more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year" -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) Isn't Spectra dead? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. " -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
You're right, here is the URL. http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. " -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) Sort of. There aren't any new versions of it coming out; but it is still available. I think it was said that it was left to the 'community source' model of support? I guess that means that it's not dead, they just stopped feeding it. At 11:15 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Isn't Spectra dead? > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> >Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. > >Mike Brunt >Sempra Energy >213.244.5226 > >"A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved >from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! > > >Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something >besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the >darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes > > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
Too bad they won't give it out for free. If you have a product that you won't support and you don't sell it anymore, why not give it away? I would love a free copy of Spectra, heck that would let me give some support to the spectra source site. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Brunt, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) You're right, here is the URL. http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. " -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) Sort of. There aren't any new versions of it coming out; but it is still available. I think it was said that it was left to the 'community source' model of support? I guess that means that it's not dead, they just stopped feeding it. At 11:15 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Isn't Spectra dead? > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> >Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. > >Mike Brunt >Sempra Energy >213.244.5226 > >"A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved >from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! > > >Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something >besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the >darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes > > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
They don't give it away for free, because believe it or not, there are still some people willing to pay for it. Sharon - Original Message - From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) > Too bad they won't give it out for free. If you have a product that you > won't support and you don't sell it anymore, why not give it away? I would > love a free copy of Spectra, heck that would let me give some support to the > spectra source site. > > Robert Everland III > Dixon Ticonderoga > Web Developer Extraordinaire > > -Original Message- > From: Brunt, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:59 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) > > > You're right, here is the URL. http://spectrasource.macromedia.com > > Mike Brunt > Sempra Energy > 213.244.5226 > > "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved > from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > > -Original Message----- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:20 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) > > > Sort of. There aren't any new versions of it coming out; but it is still > available. I think it was said that it was left to the 'community source' > model of support? > I guess that means that it's not dead, they just stopped feeding it. > > At 11:15 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >Isn't Spectra dead? > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> > >Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. > > > >Mike Brunt > >Sempra Energy > >213.244.5226 > > > >"A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved > >from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM > >To: CF-Talk > >Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! > > > > > >Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something > >besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the > >darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes > > > > > > > > > > > __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
Hi Guys and Gals., Contrary to popular belief, Macromedia Spectra will be having one more release in the future - 1.5.2. This will allow it to run on the next release of ColdFusion - ColdFusion MX(Neo).Neo will allow you to still use the core features of the Spectra model via ColdFusion Components. I can only tell you what I know and what is not under NDA anymore (Raymond Campden is your man to ask, but I think he is neck deep in Neo development!) But remember you can get a development copy of Spectra for single user use off your ColdFusion Studio CD (it is on the 4.5 disk, I will have to check the 5 disk) So if you want to help improve the model, you still can via http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Laters Neil __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
I don't think anyone doubted there would be patch releases to Spectra. If I have been reading this thread correctly, those of us who do not already have Spectra don't plan to buy a copy anytime soon. However, if it were handed out to developers, we would certainly help support it. :) Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 03:03PM >>> Hi Guys and Gals., Contrary to popular belief, Macromedia Spectra will be having one more release in the future - 1.5.2. This will allow it to run on the next release of ColdFusion - ColdFusion MX(Neo).Neo will allow you to still use the core features of the Spectra model via ColdFusion Components. I can only tell you what I know and what is not under NDA anymore (Raymond Campden is your man to ask, but I think he is neck deep in Neo development!) But remember you can get a development copy of Spectra for single user use off your ColdFusion Studio CD (it is on the 4.5 disk, I will have to check the 5 disk) So if you want to help improve the model, you still can via http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Laters Neil __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
You can get the free version on the disk as I said! - Original Message - From: "Rick Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) > I don't think anyone doubted there would be patch releases to Spectra. > If I have been reading this thread correctly, those of us who do not > already have Spectra don't plan to buy a copy anytime soon. However, if > it were handed out to developers, we would certainly help support it. > :) > > > Good Fortune, > Richard Walters, > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (800) 604-5227 x 3525 > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 03:03PM >>> > Hi Guys and Gals., > > Contrary to popular belief, Macromedia Spectra will be having one more > release in the future - 1.5.2. This will allow it to run on the next > release of ColdFusion - ColdFusion MX(Neo).Neo will allow you to > still > use the core features of the Spectra model via ColdFusion Components. > I > can only tell you what I know and what is not under NDA anymore > (Raymond > Campden is your man to ask, but I think he is neck deep in Neo > development!) > > But remember you can get a development copy of Spectra for single user > use > off your ColdFusion Studio CD (it is on the 4.5 disk, I will have to > check > the 5 disk) So if you want to help improve the model, you still can > via > http://spectrasource.macromedia.com > > Laters > > Neil > > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!)
That can't do that yet without engendering the ire (pissing off) all those folks who spent a lot of money on it in the first place. Mark -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) Too bad they won't give it out for free. If you have a product that you won't support and you don't sell it anymore, why not give it away? I would love a free copy of Spectra, heck that would let me give some support to the spectra source site. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Brunt, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) You're right, here is the URL. http://spectrasource.macromedia.com Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. " -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Sprectra (WAS: KILL THE BROADVIEW!) Sort of. There aren't any new versions of it coming out; but it is still available. I think it was said that it was left to the 'community source' model of support? I guess that means that it's not dead, they just stopped feeding it. At 11:15 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Isn't Spectra dead? > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/02 09:11AM >>> >Yes perhaps they should try Spectra. > >Mike Brunt >Sempra Energy >213.244.5226 > >"A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved >from a simpler system that worked just fine. " > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:58 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: KILL THE BROADVIEW! > > >Arrg!! Someone please rewrite the Macromedia site in something >besides Broadview!! It is so stinking slow! I can't even view the >darn CF upgrade pricing list without waiting for 2 minutes > > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
