Re: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-16 Thread Dave l
well if it helps I saw in the ads today in the paper that office depot or some 
is already starting to lower their prices on vista.

I dunno why though since its the newest, best thing since... ;)~

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
IIS is only supported on business and higher...

Eric

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Subject: RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

 I'm looking to get a new laptop and I'm just wondering - what 
 version of Vista does a Coldfusion developer really 
 want/need? For example I remember from the XP days that the 
 folks who picked up Windows XP Home Edition didn't have IIS, 
 which really can be a pain to workaround. There were also 
 some nice to have's that really made XP Professional a 
 winner for the CF developer. 
 
 Now I got this little pamphlet from Target about the 
 different editions and it looks like Vista Business ed. (when 
 compared to Ultimate) pretty much has the works minus 
 Windows Media Center and some drive encryption tool which I 
 could care less about. Is media center worth having (in which 
 case, is Home Premium a better option)? It seems like the 
 Business ed. has some networking tools that might come in 
 handy - are they? What aren't they telling me? :)

If you want to watch movies, etc, on your laptop, Media Center functionality
might be something you want. There's nothing that will help you with regard
to CF programming in Media Center.

Business or Ultimate are required if you want to join your machine to a
Windows domain. That's the networking tools they're referring to.

You can run CF on any version of Vista, although I suspect that IIS 7 isn't
officially supported by Adobe yet.

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Re: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 16 Apr 2007, Eric Roberts wrote:
 IIS is only supported on business and higher...

Fortunately Apache runs on any version.
With multiple site support too :-)


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Re: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-16 Thread Jake Pilgrim
Ok, sounds like I want Business edition if i want a full version of IIS. Now is 
the Windows Media Center piece worth upgrading from business to ultimate for? 
I'm going to have the Adobe Creative Suite installed and I'm not really the 
type of person who is looking to document their whole life story in a series of 
video clips, slideshows, etc. 

What are your thoughts on windows media center?

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Andrew Scott
You only need the Business edition, only if you want to be able to use more
than one website in IIS, as this is a full blown version of IIS.

Otherwise premium edition will surfice.


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Re: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
You could of course go for the Vista no locking edition for that extra
punch






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Subject: RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

You only need the Business edition, only if you want to be able to use more
than one website in IIS, as this is a full blown version of IIS.

Otherwise premium edition will surfice.


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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
 You only need the Business edition, only if you want to be 
 able to use more than one website in IIS, as this is a full 
 blown version of IIS.
 
 Otherwise premium edition will surfice.

I think the ability to host multiple sites is available with IIS 7 using
Home Premium, actually, although I haven't checked for myself.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=micros
oft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnettid=8104b762-d9c9-466e-9d0f-6455c1f90c64
cat=enlang=encr=sloc=en-usm=1p=1

However, Business or Ultimate appear to be required if you want to use
Windows authentication with IIS.

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
 I'm looking to get a new laptop and I'm just wondering - what 
 version of Vista does a Coldfusion developer really 
 want/need? For example I remember from the XP days that the 
 folks who picked up Windows XP Home Edition didn't have IIS, 
 which really can be a pain to workaround. There were also 
 some nice to have's that really made XP Professional a 
 winner for the CF developer. 
 
 Now I got this little pamphlet from Target about the 
 different editions and it looks like Vista Business ed. (when 
 compared to Ultimate) pretty much has the works minus 
 Windows Media Center and some drive encryption tool which I 
 could care less about. Is media center worth having (in which 
 case, is Home Premium a better option)? It seems like the 
 Business ed. has some networking tools that might come in 
 handy - are they? What aren't they telling me? :)

If you want to watch movies, etc, on your laptop, Media Center functionality
might be something you want. There's nothing that will help you with regard
to CF programming in Media Center.

Business or Ultimate are required if you want to join your machine to a
Windows domain. That's the networking tools they're referring to.

You can run CF on any version of Vista, although I suspect that IIS 7 isn't
officially supported by Adobe yet.

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Andrew Scott
Dave,

It isn't check the Microsoft website, this is one thing I checked before
even considering buying Vista to make sure I got what I needed.

I wish I had that link handy right now:-(


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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 1:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

 You only need the Business edition, only if you want to be 
 able to use more than one website in IIS, as this is a full 
 blown version of IIS.
 
 Otherwise premium edition will surfice.

I think the ability to host multiple sites is available with IIS 7 using
Home Premium, actually, although I haven't checked for myself.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=micros
oft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnettid=8104b762-d9c9-466e-9d0f-6455c1f90c64
cat=enlang=encr=sloc=en-usm=1p=1

However, Business or Ultimate appear to be required if you want to use
Windows authentication with IIS.

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Andrew Scott
Btw if you want a better idea on XP to Vista upgrade then check this link
out.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060730-7384.html


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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
 It isn't check the Microsoft website, this is one thing I 
 checked before even considering buying Vista to make sure I 
 got what I needed.

I did check the Microsoft website. If you note the URL included in the
previous message, it has two links to MS Technet which indicate otherwise:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/86026b03-18b0-4c42-98
84-5af83226e2bd1033.mspx?mfr=true
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/0d35e92b-ddb7-4423-b1
e5-df550e25713b1033.mspx?mfr=true

That said, I haven't checked for myself, since I installed Business.

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RE: Vista versions - what's really needed for CF development?

2007-04-15 Thread Andrew Scott
Well, I can tell you for a fact.

Vista Premium comes with a cut down version of IIS, authentication and
multiple websites are not supported, and if you need to or want these you
will need Vista Business/Enterprise/Ultimate for the full blown inclusion of
IIS 7.0

There are a lot more that is not included in the premium version of IIS7.0,
but if you think PWS on previous versions then you have a fair idea.


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