Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Hastings
Kevin Aebig wrote:
> Actually, when it all gets boiled down to it, the encoding would have little 
> to do with the actual flash output. To handle localisation, Flash uses 
> Unicode.

sorry but the encoding of the content you pass thru to the client will 
always matter. it can get mangled at various stages along the way.

>>i'd say it was a little too good at localization (l10n). the client
>>makes quite a lot of l10n choices for you, even when you're doing things
>>server side.
> 
> 
> I'd love to know what exactly you're refering to... as the vast majority of 
> localisation isn't handled by the Flash Player, but is up to the developer.

a small for instance, it will always cast to client timezone no matter what.

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-19 Thread Kevin Aebig
> well it should have had some effect, how exactly where you changing
> encodings?

Actually, when it all gets boiled down to it, the encoding would have little 
to do with the actual flash output. To handle localisation, Flash uses 
Unicode.

> i'd say it was a little too good at localization (l10n). the client
> makes quite a lot of l10n choices for you, even when you're doing things
> server side.

I'd love to know what exactly you're refering to... as the vast majority of 
localisation isn't handled by the Flash Player, but is up to the developer.

Sincerely,

Kevin


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: cfforms flash character encoding


> Wayne Putterill wrote:
>> Fixed now by using #CHR(163)# in the code, but I was getting strange
>
> that's not what i'd call "fixed". how were you using that currency
> symbol? text on the form, part of some formatting,etc?
>
>> characters instead of pound signs when generating flash with cfform, I
>
> like what for instance?
>
>> was using Dreamweaver and it didn't make any difference what encoding
>> was on the pages.
>
> well it should have had some effect, how exactly where you changing
> encodings?
>
>> I had something which I think is probably related where I couldn't get
>> dates to display in euro format - it's beginning to look to me like
>> flash cfforms have real problems with localisation.
>
> i'd say it was a little too good at localization (l10n). the client
> makes quite a lot of l10n choices for you, even when you're doing things
> server side.
>
> 

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Hastings
Wayne Putterill wrote:
> Fixed now by using #CHR(163)# in the code, but I was getting strange

that's not what i'd call "fixed". how were you using that currency 
symbol? text on the form, part of some formatting,etc?

> characters instead of pound signs when generating flash with cfform, I

like what for instance?

> was using Dreamweaver and it didn't make any difference what encoding
> was on the pages.

well it should have had some effect, how exactly where you changing 
encodings?

> I had something which I think is probably related where I couldn't get
> dates to display in euro format - it's beginning to look to me like
> flash cfforms have real problems with localisation.

i'd say it was a little too good at localization (l10n). the client 
makes quite a lot of l10n choices for you, even when you're doing things 
server side.

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Putterill
Fixed now by using #CHR(163)# in the code, but I was getting strange
characters instead of pound signs when generating flash with cfform, I
was using Dreamweaver and it didn't make any difference what encoding
was on the pages.

I had something which I think is probably related where I couldn't get
dates to display in euro format - it's beginning to look to me like
flash cfforms have real problems with localisation.

On 7/19/05, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wayne Putterill wrote:
> > How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> > currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> > host.
> 
> > The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> 
> what do you mean by "get a flash form to use pound signs"? what exactly
> is happening? are you getting "?" or boxes? or something else? what OS
> on the dev end? what OS on the production box? what encoding did you use
> to create those pages? what tool?
> 
> 

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Putterill
#CHR(163)# did the trick, thanks for your help - it's so annoying when
little things like this take up development time.

On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using the Flash IDE, I tested and found that you can use the character
> entity on both Win and Lin... is that what you're doing now?
> 
> Try replacing all occurances with '£' if you need a quick fix,
> otherwise I'd hunt for the problem...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 18, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfforms flash character encoding
> 
> I tried setting the content type to unicode in the Application.cfm but
> no luck, is that what you meant?
> 
> It drives me up the wall that it's fine on my test server which is
> just a default install of CF7 on Linux but fails on the host which is
> on Windows.
> 
> On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...
> >
> > Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
> > try and it'll probably work fine.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: cfforms flash character encoding
> >
> > How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> > currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> > host.
> >
> > The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Putterill
It's actually the server built into CF on my Linux box, I presume it's
IIS on the shared host.

On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> O... so are you running Apache on one and IIS on the other?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 18, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfforms flash character encoding
> 
> I tried setting the content type to unicode in the Application.cfm but
> no luck, is that what you meant?
> 
> It drives me up the wall that it's fine on my test server which is
> just a default install of CF7 on Linux but fails on the host which is
> on Windows.
> 
> On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...
> >
> > Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
> > try and it'll probably work fine.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: cfforms flash character encoding
> >
> > How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> > currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> > host.
> >
> > The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-18 Thread Paul Hastings
Wayne Putterill wrote:
> How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> host.

> The host is in the UK, I have tried putting 
> 
>  
>  
> in the Application.cfm but no luck.

what do you mean by "get a flash form to use pound signs"? what exactly 
is happening? are you getting "?" or boxes? or something else? what OS 
on the dev end? what OS on the production box? what encoding did you use 
to create those pages? what tool?

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RE: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
Using the Flash IDE, I tested and found that you can use the character
entity on both Win and Lin... is that what you're doing now?

Try replacing all occurances with '£' if you need a quick fix,
otherwise I'd hunt for the problem...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: July 18, 2005 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfforms flash character encoding

I tried setting the content type to unicode in the Application.cfm but
no luck, is that what you meant?

It drives me up the wall that it's fine on my test server which is
just a default install of CF7 on Linux but fails on the host which is
on Windows.

On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...
> 
> Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
> try and it'll probably work fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: cfforms flash character encoding
> 
> How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> host.
> 
> The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> 
> 
> 
> in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
O... so are you running Apache on one and IIS on the other?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: July 18, 2005 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfforms flash character encoding

I tried setting the content type to unicode in the Application.cfm but
no luck, is that what you meant?

It drives me up the wall that it's fine on my test server which is
just a default install of CF7 on Linux but fails on the host which is
on Windows.

On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...
> 
> Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
> try and it'll probably work fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: cfforms flash character encoding
> 
> How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> host.
> 
> The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> 
> 
> 
> in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-18 Thread Wayne Putterill
I tried setting the content type to unicode in the Application.cfm but
no luck, is that what you meant?

It drives me up the wall that it's fine on my test server which is
just a default install of CF7 on Linux but fails on the host which is
on Windows.

On 7/18/05, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...
> 
> Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
> try and it'll probably work fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: cfforms flash character encoding
> 
> How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
> currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
> host.
> 
> The host is in the UK, I have tried putting
> 
> 
> 
> in the Application.cfm but no luck.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: cfforms flash character encoding

2005-07-18 Thread Kevin Aebig
This is a complete guess, so take it at face value...

Flash relies on Unicode to handle using different characters. Give this a
try and it'll probably work fine.

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: July 18, 2005 9:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfforms flash character encoding

How can I get a flash form to use pound signs ( £ - as in the
currency), they work on my testing server but not on the (shared)
host.

The host is in the UK, I have tried putting 

 
 
in the Application.cfm but no luck.

Any ideas?



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