Re: cfproperty default attribute is buggy

2003-09-02 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 18:50 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
 Well afaik cfproperty models (to some extent) the way
 properties are declared in other OO languages like Java --

Nope, not really. Unless you are writing a Web Service and using 
cfproperty for additional validation of returned component instances, 
cfproperty does nothing beyond creating metadata. It has no relation to 
instance data and the default= attribute does not have an impact 
whatsoever on the values of that instance data.

My advice: don't use cfproperty.

 it'd be nice to get the
 expected functionality from the tag

The problem is that your expectations are incorrect.

cfcomponent
cfproperty name=foo type=numeric/
cfset this.foo = I am not numeric /
/cfcomponent

That's perfectly valid CFML - by design.

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Re: cfproperty default attribute is buggy

2003-09-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 18:50 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
 Dealey wrote:
 Well afaik cfproperty models (to some extent) the way
 properties are declared in other OO languages like Java
 --

 Nope, not really. Unless you are writing a Web Service and
 using
 cfproperty for additional validation of returned component
 instances,
 cfproperty does nothing beyond creating metadata. It has
 no relation to
 instance data and the default= attribute does not have an
 impact
 whatsoever on the values of that instance data.

 My advice: don't use cfproperty.

 it'd be nice to get the
 expected functionality from the tag

 The problem is that your expectations are incorrect.

 cfcomponent
   cfproperty name=foo type=numeric/
   cfset this.foo = I am not numeric /
 /cfcomponent

 That's perfectly valid CFML - by design.

Ahh okay... well that changes a lot. :) ... But the case
still stands -- the reason for using cfproperty in the first
place was largely for documentation -- to have / get the
meta data in other wordes... So... I still need it for what
I was doing...

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RE: cfproperty default attribute is buggy

2003-08-31 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Well afaik cfproperty models (to some extent) the way
properties are declared in other OO languages like Java --
and while it may not be absolutely necessary to use
cfproperty in a CFC in order to set local variables, what
I'm working on right now is an application architecture that
includes code documentation dependant on the ability to get
property information from the getMetaData() function. Which
means if I don't use cfproperty I can't apply the
documentation. Granted that all of these defaults would show
up in the documentation as [runtime expression] anyway,
which isn't much more useful, but it'd be nice to get the
expected functionality from the tag and not have to write a
cfset for any cfproperty that needs a runtime expression
as a default value.

 Isaac,

 Isn't CFProperty mostly for documentation at the CFC
 level, and doesn't
 actually create  any variables?  Use CFArgument to declare
 and default
 arguments in methods and CFSET instance.FOO=StructNew to
 declare private
 properties.

 Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:14 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cfproperty default attribute is buggy


 Has anybody else on the list seen this behavior:

 CFMX 6.1 - certain values can not be used in the default
 attribute of the cfproperty tag:

 cfproperty type=struct default=#structnew()#
 produces error Complex object types cannot be converted
 to
 simple values.

 cfproperty type=array default=#arraynew(1)#
 produces error message 5

 cfproperty type=string
 default=#request.mystruct.mycustomfunction()#
 produces error Method mycustomfunction with 0 arguments
 is not in class coldfusion.runtime.CFPage

 cfproperty type=string
 default=#getbasetemplatepath()#

 produces error message 7

 Also, simple values are allowed when type indicates a
 non-simple value, i.e. cfproperty type=struct
 default=
 which should produce an error

 In all cases, I've been able to use cfset further down
 in
 the cfc to set the property to the desired default
 value...
 but I'd really much rather have a proper default.

 thanks,

 s. isaac dealey972-490-6624

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RE: cfproperty default attribute is buggy

2003-08-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Isaac,

Isn't CFProperty mostly for documentation at the CFC level, and doesn't
actually create  any variables?  Use CFArgument to declare and default
arguments in methods and CFSET instance.FOO=StructNew to declare private
properties.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfproperty default attribute is buggy


Has anybody else on the list seen this behavior:

CFMX 6.1 - certain values can not be used in the default
attribute of the cfproperty tag:

cfproperty type=struct default=#structnew()#
produces error Complex object types cannot be converted to
simple values.

cfproperty type=array default=#arraynew(1)#
produces error message 5

cfproperty type=string
default=#request.mystruct.mycustomfunction()#
produces error Method mycustomfunction with 0 arguments
is not in class coldfusion.runtime.CFPage

cfproperty type=string default=#getbasetemplatepath()#

produces error message 7

Also, simple values are allowed when type indicates a
non-simple value, i.e. cfproperty type=struct default=
which should produce an error

In all cases, I've been able to use cfset further down in
the cfc to set the property to the desired default value...
but I'd really much rather have a proper default.

thanks,

s. isaac dealey972-490-6624

team macromedia volunteer
http://www.macromedia.com/go/team

chief architect, tapestry cms  http://products.turnkey.to

onTap is open source   http://www.turnkey.to/ontap



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