RE: Strange caching issue

2003-02-12 Thread brook
This is a good idea and something we have done in the past when the headers 
did not seem to be working. Just do something like ?id=#randrange(1-1)# 
to the end of your url's.

Brook Davies
logiforms.com



At 10:06 AM 2/3/03 -0800, Eric Sheetz wrote:
just a shot in the dark...

How about adding a meaningless variable to each URL so that they look
completely different than any URLs that have been cached.

Thanks,
Eric Sheetz
h. 650-349-5050
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Strange caching issue
 
 
  Barney,
  Thanks for the reply.
 
  1. Not on GMT (rather EST). However, both my development and
  production servers time settings are identical.
 
  2. Did change expires value to same time several days ago, but
  still caching.
 
  Any other ideas? Anyone else.
 
  Thanks again.
 
 
 
  On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached,
  because
  they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though,
  since
  browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being
  told to
  by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone
  is GMT,
  that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going
  to be
  wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to
  just set it
  to the current time, a few days ago.
  
  HTH,
  barneyb
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Strange caching issue
  
  
   Have the following code in my application.cfm:
  
   cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
   ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
   cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
   cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
   must-revalidate
  
   This code worked fine on my development server, but after
   promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
   code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
   server-specific I should be looking at?
  
   Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
   Regards,
   Matt Kornguth
   BLR.com
  
  
  
 

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Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Matt Kornguth
Have the following code in my application.cfm:

cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm ')# 
#timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate 

This code worked fine on my development server, but after promoting to production 
server, pages continue to cache. Made no code changes after promoting the files. Is 
there anything server-specific I should be looking at?

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Matt Kornguth
BLR.com

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RE: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Barney Boisvert
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though, since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 
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Re: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Matt Kornguth
Barney,
Thanks for the reply. 

1. Not on GMT (rather EST). However, both my development and production servers time 
settings are identical.

2. Did change expires value to same time several days ago, but still caching.

Any other ideas? Anyone else.

Thanks again.



On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, 
because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though, 
since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being 
told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone 
is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going 
to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to 
just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 

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RE: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Eric Sheetz
just a shot in the dark...

How about adding a meaningless variable to each URL so that they look
completely different than any URLs that have been cached.

Thanks,
Eric Sheetz
h. 650-349-5050
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:38 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Strange caching issue


 Barney,
 Thanks for the reply.

 1. Not on GMT (rather EST). However, both my development and
 production servers time settings are identical.

 2. Did change expires value to same time several days ago, but
 still caching.

 Any other ideas? Anyone else.

 Thanks again.



 On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached,
 because
 they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though,
 since
 browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being
 told to
 by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone
 is GMT,
 that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going
 to be
 wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to
 just set it
 to the current time, a few days ago.
 
 HTH,
 barneyb
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Strange caching issue
 
 
  Have the following code in my application.cfm:
 
  cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
  ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
  cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
  cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
  must-revalidate
 
  This code worked fine on my development server, but after
  promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
  code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
  server-specific I should be looking at?
 
  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
  Regards,
  Matt Kornguth
  BLR.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Matt Kornguth
This is so weird ... even if I hard code META HTTP-EQUIV info in the html header, it 
isn't working.

Even checked OS, versions, service packs, etc. and no luck.

Grrr  once again, any insight would be much appreciated.



On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, 
because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though, 
since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being 
told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone 
is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going 
to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to 
just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 

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Re: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Chris Norloff
Is the web server set to cache files? That might override the page settings.

Chris Norloff

-- Original Message --
From: Matt Kornguth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: 03 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0500

This is so weird ... even if I hard code META HTTP-EQUIV info in the html header, 
it isn't working.

Even checked OS, versions, service packs, etc. and no luck.

Grrr  once again, any insight would be much appreciated.



On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, 
because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case though, 
since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being 
told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone 
is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going 
to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to 
just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 


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Re: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Matt Kornguth
Chris,
IIS is set to cache files, but that is the case on both servers. Even when I set the 
IIS on the production server to expire templates immediately, it is still caching them.

The frustration builds 




On 2/3/2003 3:32 PM, Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the web server set to cache files? That might override the page 
settings.

Chris Norloff

-- Original Message --
From: Matt Kornguth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: 03 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0500

This is so weird ... even if I hard code META HTTP-EQUIV info 
in the html header, it isn't working.

Even checked OS, versions, service packs, etc. and no luck.

Grrr  once again, any insight would be much appreciated.



On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, 

because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case 
though, 
since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being 

told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone 

is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going 

to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to 

just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made 
no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 


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Re: Strange caching issue

2003-02-03 Thread Matt Kornguth
And ... to raise the frustration level a WHOLE lot more ... the files are being cached 
on only one cluster member. So caching is being prevented on our development server 
and cluster member #2, but not cluster member #1.

I need a drink ...



On 2/3/2003 3:32 PM, Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the web server set to cache files? That might override the page 
settings.

Chris Norloff

-- Original Message --
From: Matt Kornguth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: 03 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0500

This is so weird ... even if I hard code META HTTP-EQUIV info 
in the html header, it isn't working.

Even checked OS, versions, service packs, etc. and no luck.

Grrr  once again, any insight would be much appreciated.



On 2/3/2003 12:16 PM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If people already have cached pages, then they will remain cached, 

because
they won't have gotten the new headers.  Probably not the case 
though, 
since
browsers should clear their cache periodically, even without being 

told to
by the page..  Are you outputting the correct time?  Your timezone 

is GMT,
that where you're at?  If it's not, then your timestamp is going 

to be
wrong, because of time zone offsets.  A safer bet is probably to 

just set it
to the current time, a few days ago.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kornguth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Strange caching issue


 Have the following code in my application.cfm:

 cfheader name=expires value=#dateformat(now(),'ddd dd mmm
 ')# #timeformat(now(),'hh:mm:ss')# GMT
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate

 This code worked fine on my development server, but after
 promoting to production server, pages continue to cache. Made 
no
 code changes after promoting the files. Is there anything
 server-specific I should be looking at?

 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 Regards,
 Matt Kornguth
 BLR.com

 


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