RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> My mails are generally set up as follows...
>  failto="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ...>

Perfect!  That was it!  Thanks Paul.

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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Vernon
My mails are generally set up as follows...



This works for the most part except with MTA's like MS Exchange that will
accept mails for any address and then bounce them after receiving the full
mail... This means that the failto address is lost because it is only used
in the SMTP conversation and is not included in the headers of the mail...

Even with the replyto set to bounce@ as well, we still receive some bounce
messages back to the newsletters mailbox because of the poor implementations
of some mail servers...

I guess what I'm saying is that you can't completely fix this with code
because it's not your code that is necessarily broken

Paul


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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Russ
Use the failto attribute of the cfmail tag.  

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

I want regular replies to go to the From: address and error messages to
go to the Error-To: address.  I didn't think it'd be needed.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify 
> where replies should go.




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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
I want regular replies to go to the From: address and error messages to
go to the Error-To: address.  I didn't think it'd be needed.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify 
> where replies should go.


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Re: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Howie Hamlin
Some email servers return to the FROM header address and ignore the other 
headers.  Try this:

" ... >

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--- On Friday, February 04, 2005 12:30 PM, Damien McKenna scribed: ---
>
> Loha.
> 
> Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 subscribers.  We
> get a few hundred bounce messages each time and they currently go
> back to the From address.  Rather than cluttering up that account I
> created an 'emailerrors' account and am trying to configure the email
> to go to it instead.
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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 
> subscribers.  We get a few hundred bounce messages each time 
> and they currently go back to the From address.  Rather than 
> cluttering up that account I created an 'emailerrors' account 
> and am trying to configure the email to go to it instead.
> 
> Here is an example header list from an email.
>  
> Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
> Received: from websrv ([xx.xxx.xx.xxx]) by 
> mail.thelimucompany.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
>   Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:51:40 -0500
> Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:48:26 -0500 (EST)
> From: My Comapny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Cool News
> Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/related;
>  boundary="=_Part_146976_15408636.1107535706406"
> X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server
> X-Mailer: MyCompany Email Sender
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> precedence: list
> importance: high
> sensitivity: confidential
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 16:48:26.0406 (UTC) 
> FILETIME=[58CEDC60:01C50AD9]

I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify where replies
should go.

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OT: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
Loha.
 
Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 subscribers.  We get
a few hundred bounce messages each time and they currently go back to
the From address.  Rather than cluttering up that account I created an
'emailerrors' account and am trying to configure the email to go to it
instead.

Here is an example header list from an email.
 
Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from websrv ([xx.xxx.xx.xxx]) by mail.thelimucompany.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
  Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:51:40 -0500
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:48:26 -0500 (EST)
From: My Comapny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cool News
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/related; 
 boundary="=_Part_146976_15408636.1107535706406"
X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server
X-Mailer: MyCompany Email Sender
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
precedence: list
importance: high
sensitivity: confidential
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 16:48:26.0406 (UTC)
FILETIME=[58CEDC60:01C50AD9]

At first I set it to use the SMTP server (IIS on Win2k) on our hosted
server (WEBSRV), and then I tried sending straight through our local
server (mail.thelimucompany.com) to see if it made any difference, but
the same thing happened.

Anyone have a suggestion on what headers I might be missing, or anything
else to check?

My IT guru co-worker thought that the invalid hostname on the mailserver
(WEBSRV) might be causing a problem.  I would think that it might cause
some of the bounces to occur (some ISPs block invalid hostnames) but it
shouldn't explain why the bounces go to the wrong location.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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