Re: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

Yup, that is what I am currently doing ...


> ah.
>
> .  While they are not
the issue, it may be work reexamining how you have your tables constructed.
for example, looks like you can fold the three "detail" tables into one.
>
> if we consider that this layout is a priori, and the scenario is as
outlined below, then you're probably looking for
>
> SELECT template FROM department_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#
> UNION
> SELECT template FROM product_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#
> UNION
> SELECT template FROM content_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#
>
> this is off the top of my head.  should be fairly close, though.
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> Ok, here it is:
>
> fusion_table
> id | owner | sub_object | type | sort | status
>
> department_table
> id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE
>
> product_table
> id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE  various other
> columns
>
> content_table
> id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE
>
> The fusion table combines the id values from the other three tables, in
the
> two columns OWNER and SUB_OBJECT.  All owners can have multiple
sub_objects
> and sub_objects can become owners.  The type field is one of three values
> department, product, or content
>
> So if I have id's
> 1 = department
> 2 = department
> 3 = product
> 4 = product
> 5 = content
>
> and my fusion table looks like this:
>
> owner | sub_object | type
> 12 department
> 23 product
> 24 product
> 25 content
>
> Owner 1 has the sub_object 2 (sub_department)  owner 2 has the sub objects
> 3,4 (products) and 5(content item).
>
> So if I have a link  loading up ID=4 the product and want to view it's
> records, "go.cfm?owner=4"  I want to write a query that will get the
> template out of the appropriate table ...
> I do not want to do a
> 
> run this query
> 
> run this query
> 
> run this query
> 
>
> I would like to run a query that will "Join or Union" the tables to get
the
> TEMPLATE so I can tell which template to use.  I would rather not
duplicate
> the data and keep the template attached to each item.
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
>
> > can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join
> may be in the making.  are all the tables related via the relationship
> table?
> >
> > christopher olive
> > cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> > atnet solutions, inc.
> > 410.931.4092
> > http://www.atnetsolutions.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN
> >
> >
> > I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in
their
> > setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.
> >
> > Paul Giesenhagen
> > QuillDesign
> > http://www.quilldesign.com
> > SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
> >
> >
> > > they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?
> > >
> > > christopher olive
> > > cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> > > atnet solutions, inc.
> > > 410.931.4092
> > > http://www.atnetsolutions.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
> > > tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Paul Giesenhagen
> > > QuillDesign
> > > http://www.quilldesign.com
> > > SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 
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RE: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Christopher Olive

ah.

.  While they are not the issue, it 
may be work reexamining how you have your tables constructed.  for example, looks like 
you can fold the three "detail" tables into one.

if we consider that this layout is a priori, and the scenario is as outlined below, 
then you're probably looking for 

SELECT template FROM department_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#
UNION
SELECT template FROM product_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#
UNION
SELECT template FROM content_table WHERE ID = #URL.owner#

this is off the top of my head.  should be fairly close, though.

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
http://www.atnetsolutions.com


-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN


Ok, here it is:

fusion_table
id | owner | sub_object | type | sort | status

department_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE

product_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE  various other
columns

content_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE

The fusion table combines the id values from the other three tables, in the
two columns OWNER and SUB_OBJECT.  All owners can have multiple sub_objects
and sub_objects can become owners.  The type field is one of three values
department, product, or content

So if I have id's
1 = department
2 = department
3 = product
4 = product
5 = content

and my fusion table looks like this:

owner | sub_object | type
12 department
23 product
24 product
25 content

Owner 1 has the sub_object 2 (sub_department)  owner 2 has the sub objects
3,4 (products) and 5(content item).

So if I have a link  loading up ID=4 the product and want to view it's
records, "go.cfm?owner=4"  I want to write a query that will get the
template out of the appropriate table ...
I do not want to do a

run this query

run this query

run this query


I would like to run a query that will "Join or Union" the tables to get the
TEMPLATE so I can tell which template to use.  I would rather not duplicate
the data and keep the template attached to each item.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder



> can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join
may be in the making.  are all the tables related via the relationship
table?
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in their
> setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
> > they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > christopher olive
> > cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> > atnet solutions, inc.
> > 410.931.4092
> > http://www.atnetsolutions.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
> >
> >
> > Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
> > tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Paul Giesenhagen
> > QuillDesign
> > http://www.quilldesign.com
> > SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

Ok, here it is:

fusion_table
id | owner | sub_object | type | sort | status

department_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE

product_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE  various other
columns

content_table
id | title | description | content | status | TEMPLATE

The fusion table combines the id values from the other three tables, in the
two columns OWNER and SUB_OBJECT.  All owners can have multiple sub_objects
and sub_objects can become owners.  The type field is one of three values
department, product, or content

So if I have id's
1 = department
2 = department
3 = product
4 = product
5 = content

and my fusion table looks like this:

owner | sub_object | type
12 department
23 product
24 product
25 content

Owner 1 has the sub_object 2 (sub_department)  owner 2 has the sub objects
3,4 (products) and 5(content item).

So if I have a link  loading up ID=4 the product and want to view it's
records, "go.cfm?owner=4"  I want to write a query that will get the
template out of the appropriate table ...
I do not want to do a

run this query

run this query

run this query


I would like to run a query that will "Join or Union" the tables to get the
TEMPLATE so I can tell which template to use.  I would rather not duplicate
the data and keep the template attached to each item.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder



> can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join
may be in the making.  are all the tables related via the relationship
table?
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in their
> setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
> > they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > christopher olive
> > cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> > atnet solutions, inc.
> > 410.931.4092
> > http://www.atnetsolutions.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
> >
> >
> > Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
> > tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Paul Giesenhagen
> > QuillDesign
> > http://www.quilldesign.com
> > SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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RE: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Walters

If you have a single table with fields from other tables you can join
them all fairly simply.  Consider the following four tables:

cars
   carid
   cartypeid
   carcolorid
   carmodelid

carmodel
   carmodelid
   model

carcolor
   carcolorid
   color

cartype
   cartypeid
   type


You can get the data from all the tables with a join: 
(i'm using the older syntax cause it is easier, the letters are
aliases)

select a.carid, b.model, c.color, d.type
from cars a, carmodel b, carcolor c, cartype d
where a.carmodelid = b.carmodelid
and a.carcolorid = c.carmodelid
and a.cartypeid = d.cartypeid
and a.carid = 

That will get all the data for one car.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 11:14AM >>>
can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join
may be in the making.  are all the tables related via the relationship
table?

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
http://www.atnetsolutions.com 


-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN


I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in
their
setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com 
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


> they do different things, really.  what are you trying to
accomplish?
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on
four
> tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com 
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
> 


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RE: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Christopher Olive

can you give more detail?  from just this amount, it sounds like a join may be in the 
making.  are all the tables related via the relationship table?

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
http://www.atnetsolutions.com


-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: UNION vs JOIN


I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in their
setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


> they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
> tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
> 

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Re: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

I am combining the results of three tables that are very similar in their
setup and the fourth table holds all the relationships.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


> they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?
>
> christopher olive
> cto, vp of web development, vp it security
> atnet solutions, inc.
> 410.931.4092
> http://www.atnetsolutions.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN
>
>
> Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
> tables versus a JOIN on four tables?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
> 
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RE: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Christopher Olive

they do different things, really.  what are you trying to accomplish?

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
http://www.atnetsolutions.com


-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: UNION vs JOIN


Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
tables versus a JOIN on four tables?

Thanks

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


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Re: OT: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Rick Walters

Union Adds the rows from a second table, Join combines the tables.  It's
conceivable that they produce the same result if you're using an outer
join, but they're different.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 10:18AM >>>
Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
tables versus a JOIN on four tables?

Thanks

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com 
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder


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OT: UNION vs JOIN

2002-04-18 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

Is there a significant difference in performance using a UNION on four
tables versus a JOIN on four tables?

Thanks

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder

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