Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
On 8/4/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 03 August 2006 14:26, Ken Ferguson wrote: > > that's 120K/yr. You just double the hourly and add a K. > > Woa. That makes it a bit easier. > :remembers Yup, that's going right up there with the 9's timetables up to 10 finger trick. Let's see... 9 * 4 is (holds up both hands, looks) *cough* still my favorite type of math... A trick! Overtime throws it off, if you do a good bit of it... /me tries to tuck the formula away someplace he'll remember ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
On Thursday 03 August 2006 14:26, Ken Ferguson wrote: > that's 120K/yr. You just double the hourly and add a K. Woa. That makes it a bit easier. :remembers -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248780 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
That's too simple to figure out to spend any time messing with it. If someone is making $45/hr, that's 90K/yr. If they're making $60/hr, then that's 120K/yr. You just double the hourly and add a K. 40 hrs/wk * 50 wks * hourly rate. Whether it's because you don't get the full 40 or because of vacation... you trim the weeks by 2 down to 50.. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:07, Matt Williams wrote: > Salary Average by year > Hourly Averages (overall and by year) It would be cute to give people who only gave one an value for the other, based on a standard 5x7.5 hour week. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248708 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:07, Matt Williams wrote: > Salary Average by year > Hourly Averages (overall and by year) It would be cute to give people who only gave one an value for the other, based on a standard 5x7.5 hour week. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
The following creeping features have been added to the Survey Results page over the past day or so: Salary Average by year Hourly Averages (overall and by year) Salary and Hourly Highest and Lowest -- Matt Williams "It's the question that drives us." ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Yay, that's what I do too, work at home. Great innit But then I'm one of the company directors so that helps :-) - Snake -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 15:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Well, for example, my position does focus solely on CF web app development (and I use most of the things in that list) and I am right at the bottom of the salaries that are posted in the survey. There again, how many people have a permanent position (not contracting) where they can work at home essentially 100% of the time? I prefer security and good conditions over high returns (no, I don't invest in the stock market either). Also, the cost of living here is lower than in other parts of the country. On 8/2/06, Ben Nadel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The multiple jobs brings up a very interesting discussion. You can > make more money occupying multiple job types, but is it possible to be > a great ColdFusion programmer if you have too much responsibility doing other stuff? > For those of you who do concentrate on ColdFusion solely, should that > not be reflected? Thing about how much you need to know to be a highly > effective ColdFusion programmer and web developer: > > ColdFusion, ColdSpring, Reactor, Flex 2.0, Web Services, AJAX, SPRY, > MVC, Model-Glue (and Unity), Java, SQL, Database Design, Javascript, > DHTML, CSS... > > These are the hot topics that I could just name off the top of my > head. My point here is that ColdFusion and web development can be done > "to get it working" or it can be done at an "expert level". Part of > the beauty of ColdFusion is the super small learning curve. But, in my > opinion, you can never be an expert if you split your responsibilities > between it and anything else. > > So I guess this begs the question, is being an expert in ColdFusion > and Web Development less valuable than being just "good" at different > jobs? I have NO answers for this... I am neither an expert, nor am > among the higher paying jobs in the survey. It's just very interesting to me. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248674 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Well, for example, my position does focus solely on CF web app development (and I use most of the things in that list) and I am right at the bottom of the salaries that are posted in the survey. There again, how many people have a permanent position (not contracting) where they can work at home essentially 100% of the time? I prefer security and good conditions over high returns (no, I don't invest in the stock market either). Also, the cost of living here is lower than in other parts of the country. On 8/2/06, Ben Nadel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The multiple jobs brings up a very interesting discussion. You can make more > money occupying multiple job types, but is it possible to be a great > ColdFusion programmer if you have too much responsibility doing other stuff? > For those of you who do concentrate on ColdFusion solely, should that not be > reflected? Thing about how much you need to know to be a highly effective > ColdFusion programmer and web developer: > > ColdFusion, ColdSpring, Reactor, Flex 2.0, Web Services, AJAX, SPRY, MVC, > Model-Glue (and Unity), Java, SQL, Database Design, Javascript, DHTML, > CSS... > > These are the hot topics that I could just name off the top of my head. My > point here is that ColdFusion and web development can be done "to get it > working" or it can be done at an "expert level". Part of the beauty of > ColdFusion is the super small learning curve. But, in my opinion, you can > never be an expert if you split your responsibilities between it and > anything else. > > So I guess this begs the question, is being an expert in ColdFusion and Web > Development less valuable than being just "good" at different jobs? I have > NO answers for this... I am neither an expert, nor am among the higher > paying jobs in the survey. It's just very interesting to me. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 13:55, Ben Nadel wrote: > that not be reflected? Thing about how much you need to know to be a highly > effective ColdFusion programmer and web developer: > ColdFusion, ColdSpring, Reactor, Flex 2.0, Web Services, AJAX, SPRY, MVC, > Model-Glue (and Unity), Java, SQL, Database Design, Javascript, DHTML, > CSS... You're right, we all rock :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248623 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
The multiple jobs brings up a very interesting discussion. You can make more money occupying multiple job types, but is it possible to be a great ColdFusion programmer if you have too much responsibility doing other stuff? For those of you who do concentrate on ColdFusion solely, should that not be reflected? Thing about how much you need to know to be a highly effective ColdFusion programmer and web developer: ColdFusion, ColdSpring, Reactor, Flex 2.0, Web Services, AJAX, SPRY, MVC, Model-Glue (and Unity), Java, SQL, Database Design, Javascript, DHTML, CSS... These are the hot topics that I could just name off the top of my head. My point here is that ColdFusion and web development can be done "to get it working" or it can be done at an "expert level". Part of the beauty of ColdFusion is the super small learning curve. But, in my opinion, you can never be an expert if you split your responsibilities between it and anything else. So I guess this begs the question, is being an expert in ColdFusion and Web Development less valuable than being just "good" at different jobs? I have NO answers for this... I am neither an expert, nor am among the higher paying jobs in the survey. It's just very interesting to me. ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Avenue Floor 10 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com "Some people call me the space cowboy. Some people call me the gangster of love." -Original Message- From: Richard Dillman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey I think your right on the money with the Multiple Jobs. I cant think of anyone who could float as a CF developer that wasnt also a fairly decient SQL/DBA And/Or a Decient layout and Design person. And I do charge About $15 an hour more for SQL/DBA stuff than i do for the CFML, and $25 an hour more for Graphics/Photography. So im thinking $100k+/- in Indianapolis is just about right overall. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248617 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Bonuses? Who gets bonuses? I'd be happy getting an extra 40 hours PTO. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey + bonuses you could find yourself up at 100K USD. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Wow, this is scary. Yah, this is the same Johnny. Are you Tim? I don't recognize the name "Loathe". If you are, how are you doing these days? Sound like you are doing extremely well. Thanks for the compliment, man. Johnny >Johnny I'm not sure if your talking about yourself (one year) but you are >one of best CF guys I know (man, I'm hoping this is the same Johnny I worked >with for a minute over at the business center). > >If not, never mind :) > >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248613 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
That would be good.. I know how much I am saving... not going out.. not buying beer... etc etc. :) MD On 8/2/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, Wouldn't you like to see that $0 contrasted with how much money people > have have saved by not buying some other IDE? Or maybe you don't want to > know. ;) > > Tom, I can leave this up for a while. No problem. > > Johnny, thanks again for the data cleanup note. I took out the two 840,000 > entries and changed one 690,000 to 69,000. I also deleted entries that had > NULL for both salary and hourly rate as they weren't doing anything. > > > > On 8/2/06, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess I better not put in my salary for CFEclipse huh? that would > > throw off the average... > > > > "annual pay $0 + Amazon Wish List Bonuses" > > > > MD > > > > On 8/2/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > > > > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. > > > > > > What would be great is if you left it up for a month or so, and then > > posted a > > > summary / graphs. > > > > > > -- > > > Tom Chiverton > > > > > > > > > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > > > > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > > Regulated by the Law Society. > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > > > > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > > > > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Mark, Wouldn't you like to see that $0 contrasted with how much money people have have saved by not buying some other IDE? Or maybe you don't want to know. ;) Tom, I can leave this up for a while. No problem. Johnny, thanks again for the data cleanup note. I took out the two 840,000 entries and changed one 690,000 to 69,000. I also deleted entries that had NULL for both salary and hourly rate as they weren't doing anything. On 8/2/06, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess I better not put in my salary for CFEclipse huh? that would > throw off the average... > > "annual pay $0 + Amazon Wish List Bonuses" > > MD > > On 8/2/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > > > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. > > > > What would be great is if you left it up for a month or so, and then > posted a > > summary / graphs. > > > > -- > > Tom Chiverton > > > > > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > Regulated by the Law Society. > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248609 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I guess I better not put in my salary for CFEclipse huh? that would throw off the average... "annual pay $0 + Amazon Wish List Bonuses" MD On 8/2/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. > > What would be great is if you left it up for a month or so, and then posted a > summary / graphs. > > -- > Tom Chiverton > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and > Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at > St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner > in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by > the Law Society. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may > be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must > not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor > inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence > or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and > notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248605 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. What would be great is if you left it up for a month or so, and then posted a summary / graphs. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I know what you mean about multiple jobs. Personally I'm working two jobs and starting a consulting/promotions biz all at the same time. It's funny how almost everyone that answered said something about second jobs and contract work. BTW, interesting aside, US Today (I think it was) rated software developer as the number one job to have in the US. Now sure what their metrics were for that rating, but I can think of easier jobs :) > -Original Message- > From: Richard Dillman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:20 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > I think your right on the money with the Multiple Jobs. I cant think of > anyone who could float as a CF developer that wasnt also a fairly decient > SQL/DBA And/Or a Decient layout and Design person. > > And I do charge About $15 an hour more for SQL/DBA stuff than i do for the > CFML, and $25 an hour more for Graphics/Photography. > > So im thinking $100k+/- in Indianapolis is just about right overall. of the designers i know are making at or just below that. > > > On 8/1/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Johnny I'm not sure if your talking about yourself (one year) > but you are > > one of best CF guys I know (man, I'm hoping this is the same Johnny I > > worked > > with for a minute over at the business center). > > > > If not, never mind :) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > > > > > > > I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his > > > own business. Although that would bring the average salary and > > > the salary of 7 years of experience up a lot. It looks like > > > independent contractors make more money than full time people. > > > > > > Wonder what the average hourly rate is :-) > > > > > > So sad for those with 3 years of experience :-( Those with 1 > > > year of experience rock! > > > > > > Johnny > > > > > > > > > >Johnny, > > > > > > > >Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of > > > the "210". > > > >Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is > > $130. > > > > > > > >Matt > > > > > > > >On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I think your right on the money with the Multiple Jobs. I cant think of anyone who could float as a CF developer that wasnt also a fairly decient SQL/DBA And/Or a Decient layout and Design person. And I do charge About $15 an hour more for SQL/DBA stuff than i do for the CFML, and $25 an hour more for Graphics/Photography. So im thinking $100k+/- in Indianapolis is just about right overall. wrote: > > Johnny I'm not sure if your talking about yourself (one year) but you are > one of best CF guys I know (man, I'm hoping this is the same Johnny I > worked > with for a minute over at the business center). > > If not, never mind :) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > > > > I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his > > own business. Although that would bring the average salary and > > the salary of 7 years of experience up a lot. It looks like > > independent contractors make more money than full time people. > > > > Wonder what the average hourly rate is :-) > > > > So sad for those with 3 years of experience :-( Those with 1 > > year of experience rock! > > > > Johnny > > > > > > >Johnny, > > > > > >Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of > > the "210". > > >Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is > $130. > > > > > >Matt > > > > > >On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Johnny I'm not sure if your talking about yourself (one year) but you are one of best CF guys I know (man, I'm hoping this is the same Johnny I worked with for a minute over at the business center). If not, never mind :) > -Original Message- > From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his > own business. Although that would bring the average salary and > the salary of 7 years of experience up a lot. It looks like > independent contractors make more money than full time people. > > Wonder what the average hourly rate is :-) > > So sad for those with 3 years of experience :-( Those with 1 > year of experience rock! > > Johnny > > > >Johnny, > > > >Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of > the "210". > >Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is $130. > > > >Matt > > > >On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Responder 148, 149, and 150 from Sydney Australia seem to be the same person and the salary seems to be $84,000 and not $840,000. Johnny >Come one, come all... >An anonymous salary survey is available at > >http://keysym.org/cfs > >I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably >will. :) > >I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in >other time zones, etc. > >Matt > > >On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-- >Matt Williams >"It's the question that drives us." ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248588 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his own business. Although that would bring the average salary and the salary of 7 years of experience up a lot. It looks like independent contractors make more money than full time people. Wonder what the average hourly rate is :-) So sad for those with 3 years of experience :-( Those with 1 year of experience rock! Johnny >Johnny, > >Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of the "210". >Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is $130. > >Matt > >On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
To be honest I don't think there are many people doing just CF that make that kind of money. With me it's a combination of CF stuff and security analysis and a high level clearance. > -Original Message- > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn > lucky. > Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be > £40-£45k tops for > a senior cfmaster. I see very few offering that. > > Snake > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 August 2006 21:42 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the > salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on > the survey > whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of > specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. > > Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject > matter expert > in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a > premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I > am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but > rather trying > to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of > the scale is paid as such. > > > > > > > CF developer is my primary role. > > > > > andy matthews > > web developer > > certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 615.370.1530 x737 > > --//-----> > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm > > curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time > > cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. > > I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount > > disparity between the two types. > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248585 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Johnny, Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of the "210". Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is $130. Matt On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wonder if you count those who entered like 35 or 60 for their annual > salary in your average or did you patch 000 at the end of those numbers? > because those would significantly shift the average. > > > >Come one, come all... > >An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > >http://keysym.org/cfs > > > >I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably > >will. :) > > > >I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in > >other time zones, etc. > > > >Matt > > > > > >On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-- > >Matt Williams > >"It's the question that drives us." > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Wonder if you count those who entered like 35 or 60 for their annual salary in your average or did you patch 000 at the end of those numbers? because those would significantly shift the average. >Come one, come all... >An anonymous salary survey is available at > >http://keysym.org/cfs > >I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably >will. :) > >I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in >other time zones, etc. > >Matt > > >On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-- >Matt Williams >"It's the question that drives us." ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248578 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
+ bonuses you could find yourself up at 100K USD. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Aug 01 22:29:02 2006 Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Yea, and that's still less than $100k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 22:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey But 45k British pounds = 84 U.S. dollars according to Google. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn lucky. Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be £40-£45k tops for a senior cfmaster. I see very few offering that. Snake -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject matter expert in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but rather trying to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of the scale is paid as such. > CF developer is my primary role. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm > curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time > cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. > I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount > disparity between the two types. > > Hmmm. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248577 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Yea, and that's still less than $100k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 22:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey But 45k British pounds = 84 U.S. dollars according to Google. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn lucky. Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be £40-£45k tops for a senior cfmaster. I see very few offering that. Snake -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject matter expert in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but rather trying to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of the scale is paid as such. > CF developer is my primary role. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm > curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time > cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. > I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount > disparity between the two types. > > Hmmm. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248576 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
But 45k British pounds = 84 U.S. dollars according to Google. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn lucky. Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be £40-£45k tops for a senior cfmaster. I see very few offering that. Snake -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject matter expert in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but rather trying to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of the scale is paid as such. > CF developer is my primary role. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm > curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time > cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. > I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount > disparity between the two types. > > Hmmm. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248570 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn lucky. Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be £40-£45k tops for a senior cfmaster. I see very few offering that. Snake -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject matter expert in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but rather trying to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of the scale is paid as such. > CF developer is my primary role. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm > curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time > cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. > I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount > disparity between the two types. > > Hmmm. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248568 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of specialization, as opposed to just a full-time CF coder. Example, I am assuming that a CF developer who is also subject matter expert in Human Resources or point of purchase apps will hold much more of a premium versus someone who holds an Advance CF Dev Certification(). I am not trying to diminish the value of the certification, but rather trying to pinpoint or point out the reason why the developer on the upper end of the scale is paid as such. > CF developer is my primary role. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer > ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious > about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time cf > developer > roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. I'm thinking that > the difference will create a noticeable amount disparity between the two > types. > > Hmmm. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248562 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Senior Developer (.NET, ColdFusion, Flash & Flex) and that's only at my full time gig as I actually do another 4 things professionally contracting on the side. If only they paid me what I was worth... tragic. !k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey CF developer is my primary role. -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount disparity between the two types. Hmmm. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
CF developer is my primary role. -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount disparity between the two types. Hmmm. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount disparity between the two types. Hmmm. > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > Fixed the IN vs IL issue and fixed the Springfield entry. Also defaulted > the > Country to USA (dang egotistical Americans) and updated previous > inconsistencies to 'USA'. > > As far as filtering and such, I'll let you download to Excel or whatever > and > do what you like. > > Matt > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious about is that if the salary scale reflect the actual full time cf developer roles versus 'jobs with other roles plus cf developer'. I'm thinking that the difference will create a noticeable amount disparity between the two types. Hmmm. > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > Fixed the IN vs IL issue and fixed the Springfield entry. Also defaulted > the > Country to USA (dang egotistical Americans) and updated previous > inconsistencies to 'USA'. > > As far as filtering and such, I'll let you download to Excel or whatever > and > do what you like. > > Matt > > On 8/1/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think my cert ever made any difference. Certainly no-one has > ever > > asked if I was certified. I think a reputation counts more than anything > > else. > > If your active in the community and an employer (or his existing > > developers) > > have heard of you, then it really does make a difference. > > > > Snake > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > > and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has > > anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? > > > > > > On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > > > the original poster was looking for) :) > > > > > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Come one, come all... > > > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > > > > probably will. :) > > > > > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for > > > > those in other time zones, etc. > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > > > down... > > > > > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt Williams > > > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Can we get some graphs overlayed onto a google map? j/k Thank you for building this for the group. =] On 8/1/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think my cert ever made any difference. Certainly no-one has ever > asked if I was certified. I think a reputation counts more than anything > else. > If your active in the community and an employer (or his existing > developers) > have heard of you, then it really does make a difference. > > Snake > > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has > anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? > > > On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > > the original poster was looking for) :) > > > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Come one, come all... > > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > > > probably will. :) > > > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for > > > those in other time zones, etc. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > > down... > > > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Matt Williams > > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Fixed the IN vs IL issue and fixed the Springfield entry. Also defaulted the Country to USA (dang egotistical Americans) and updated previous inconsistencies to 'USA'. As far as filtering and such, I'll let you download to Excel or whatever and do what you like. Matt On 8/1/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think my cert ever made any difference. Certainly no-one has ever > asked if I was certified. I think a reputation counts more than anything > else. > If your active in the community and an employer (or his existing > developers) > have heard of you, then it really does make a difference. > > Snake > > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has > anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? > > > On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > > the original poster was looking for) :) > > > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Come one, come all... > > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > > > probably will. :) > > > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for > > > those in other time zones, etc. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > > down... > > > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Matt Williams > > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Big difference...IN is the South in the North ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 13:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Oh, c'mon, is there *really* that much of a difference? Heh heh... Eric Roberts wrote: > It's reporting IL as IN ;-) > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 11:54 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Come one, come all... >> An anonymous salary survey is available at >> >> http://keysym.org/cfs >> >> I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you >> probably will. :) >> >> I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for >> those in other time zones, etc. >> >> Matt >> >> >> On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) >>> >>> I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way >>> down... >>> >>> Peter Sheats >>> >>> >> -- >> Matt Williams >> "It's the question that drives us." >> >> >> > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Oh, c'mon, is there *really* that much of a difference? Heh heh... Eric Roberts wrote: > It's reporting IL as IN ;-) > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 11:54 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the > original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Come one, come all... >> An anonymous salary survey is available at >> >> http://keysym.org/cfs >> >> I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you >> probably will. :) >> >> I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those >> in other time zones, etc. >> >> Matt >> >> >> On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) >>> >>> I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way >>> down... >>> >>> Peter Sheats >>> >>> >> -- >> Matt Williams >> "It's the question that drives us." >> >> >> > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Feature creep!!! -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Great stuff, could you make a select box to filter the averages on country? Mingo. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248513 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Ooops...never mind. I saw that you're dropping zeros and blanks already. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. Direct link for those that have already answered: http://keysym.org/cfs/results.cfm Charlie, that's why I put in the years of experience. Of course we're making the assumption that more years means more advanced which could be debated. Again, this is not scientific at all, but interesting. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I don't think my cert ever made any difference. Certainly no-one has ever asked if I was certified. I think a reputation counts more than anything else. If your active in the community and an employer (or his existing developers) have heard of you, then it really does make a difference. Snake -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come one, come all... > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > > probably will. :) > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for > > those in other time zones, etc. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > down... > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Williams > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
You might consider dropping (or not showing) records whose annual salary field is blank. It'll throw off the average. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. Direct link for those that have already answered: http://keysym.org/cfs/results.cfm Charlie, that's why I put in the years of experience. Of course we're making the assumption that more years means more advanced which could be debated. Again, this is not scientific at all, but interesting. On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come one, come all... > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably > > will. :) > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those > in > > other time zones, etc. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > down... > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Williams > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Maybe a auto-normalizer to coalesce 'us', 'usa', and 'united states'?
In your SELECT clause
IF(state IN ('us', 'usa', 'united states'), 'usa', state) AS state
cheers,
banreyb
On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had an issue with state. I fixed it and added in what I could based on City.
>
> On 8/1/06, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like the state is either not being saved, or not being displayed.
> >
> > Just FYI.
> >
> > > andy matthews
> > web developer
> > certified advanced coldfusion programmer
> > ICGLink, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 615.370.1530 x737
> > --//----->
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
> >
> >
> > Come one, come all...
> > An anonymous salary survey is available at
> >
> > http://keysym.org/cfs
> >
> > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you
> > probably
> > will. :)
> >
> > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in
> > other time zones, etc.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =)
> > >
> > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way
> > > down...
> > >
> > > Peter Sheats
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Matt Williams
> > "It's the question that drives us."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come one, come all... > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably > > will. :) > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in > > other time zones, etc. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > down... > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Williams > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248501 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Great stuff, could you make a select box to filter the averages on country? Mingo. Matt Williams wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably > will. :) > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in > other time zones, etc. > > Matt > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) >> >> I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way >> down... >> >> Peter Sheats >> >> >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248496 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
It's reporting IL as IN ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 11:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the original poster was looking for) :) On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably will. :) > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those > in other time zones, etc. > > Matt > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > down... > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > -- > Matt Williams > "It's the question that drives us." > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. Direct link for those that have already answered: http://keysym.org/cfs/results.cfm Charlie, that's why I put in the years of experience. Of course we're making the assumption that more years means more advanced which could be debated. Again, this is not scientific at all, but interesting. On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come one, come all... > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably > > will. :) > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those > in > > other time zones, etc. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > down... > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Williams > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248494 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I personally don't care if it's just advanced - from what it looks like right now almost everyone who has responded makes more than me =) Peter Sheats Webmaster Palm Beach Atlantic University [EMAIL PROTECTED] 561.803.2033 "Maturity comes from obedience to Christ, not necessarily from age." -- Leonard Ravenhill -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the original poster was looking for) :) On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably will. :) > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those > in other time zones, etc. > > Matt > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > down... > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > -- > Matt Williams > "It's the question that drives us." > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248492 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
I didn't do any cost of living stuff as you can research that based on location. On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Had an issue with state. I fixed it and added in what I could based on > City. > > > On 8/1/06, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > Looks like the state is either not being saved, or not being displayed. > > > > Just FYI. > > > > > andy matthews > > web developer > > certified advanced coldfusion programmer > > ICGLink, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 615.370.1530 x737 > > --//-> > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > > > > Come one, come all... > > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > > probably > > will. :) > > > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those > > in > > other time zones, etc. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > > down... > > > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Williams > > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Had an issue with state. I fixed it and added in what I could based on City. On 8/1/06, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like the state is either not being saved, or not being displayed. > > Just FYI. > > andy matthews > web developer > certified advanced coldfusion programmer > ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you > probably > will. :) > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in > other time zones, etc. > > Matt > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > down... > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > -- > Matt Williams > "It's the question that drives us." > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248489 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Looks like the state is either not being saved, or not being displayed. Just FYI. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Come one, come all... An anonymous salary survey is available at http://keysym.org/cfs I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably will. :) I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in other time zones, etc. Matt On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > down... > > Peter Sheats > > -- Matt Williams "It's the question that drives us." ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248483 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the original poster was looking for) :) On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably > will. :) > > I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in > other time zones, etc. > > Matt > > > On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > > down... > > > > Peter Sheats > > > > > -- > Matt Williams > "It's the question that drives us." > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248479 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey
Come one, come all... An anonymous salary survey is available at http://keysym.org/cfs I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably will. :) I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in other time zones, etc. Matt On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, all this for me? Thanks =) > > I don't think I should answer it since it'll bring the average way > down... > > Peter Sheats > > -- Matt Williams "It's the question that drives us." ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248470 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
