Web Based CD key
We have a customer that has asked us to create a CD that would only "unlock" if a person was logged in to a particular web site. Any ideas on how this could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could check for the existence of a particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? thanks, Luis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
Not sure how successful that would be. You'd have to take into account the different versions of the different browsers on the different platforms (assuming this is x-platform) and that could be a serious pain. It might be better to write in a little doohicky that asks them for login information to check their status via a webservice or the like and, as it does, kicks open a browser window pointing to the client site. Of course, I have no idea what kind of content you plan on including --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Luis Lebron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:42 PM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: Web Based CD key : : : We have a customer that has asked us to create a CD that would : only "unlock" : if a person was logged in to a particular web site. Any ideas on how this : could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could check for the existence of a : particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? : : : thanks, : : Luis : : ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Web Based CD key
Luis Lebron wrote: > We have a customer that has asked us to create a CD that would only "unlock" > if a person was logged in to a particular web site. Any ideas on how this > could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could check for the existence of a > particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? What content should be on that CD? Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? Luis -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web Based CD key Luis Lebron wrote: > We have a customer that has asked us to create a CD that would only "unlock" > if a person was logged in to a particular web site. Any ideas on how this > could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could check for the existence of a > particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? What content should be on that CD? Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Web Based CD key
> We have a customer that has asked us to create > a CD that would only "unlock" Interesting... here are my thoughts.. The cdstart.. can be an applet that posts to webservice/url/form.. to login.. On login success.. start the *.exe app.. director or whatever.. Joe On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:41:52 -0600 Luis Lebron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have a customer that has asked us to create > a CD that would only "unlock" > if a person was logged in to a particular web > site. Any ideas on how this > could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could > check for the existence of a > particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? > > > thanks, > > Luis > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Web Based CD key
Luis Lebron wrote: > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set up something with Flash Remoting. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
What's to stop the user from just launching the application manually? The only way that you can really secure the data on the CD would be to encrypt it somehow and require the user to access the data via a custom application that is included on the disk. The app could access the website, validate whatever, and decode the data as needed. Mind you, this still isn't secure because someone can decrypt the data or can hack the executable and simply NOOP the instruction(s) that perform the validation. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:52 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > > We have a customer that has asked us to create > > a CD that would only "unlock" > > Interesting... here are my thoughts.. > The cdstart.. can be an applet that posts to > webservice/url/form.. to login.. > > On login success.. start the *.exe app.. director or whatever.. > > Joe > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:41:52 -0600 Luis Lebron > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > We have a customer that has asked us to create > > a CD that would only "unlock" > > if a person was logged in to a particular web > > site. Any ideas on how this > > could be done. I'm thinking that the CD could > > check for the existence of a > > particular cookie. Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Luis > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Web Based CD key
Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't completely protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > Luis Lebron wrote: > > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? > > Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set > up something with Flash Remoting. > > Jochem > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Web Based CD key
building on the last post - you can also toss it into director - either port it to flash and drop it on director or use the director import. Then you can ouput as shockwave to still allow it to be web enabled or compile it as a director movie - .dxr - The director movies lingo CAN NOT be hacked. This isn't because no one figured it out.. It is because all the lingo is striped from the CD on compiling a dxr. The only possible hack which is not very well known is to be able to uncompress a .dxr and get the cast members and score ONLY. None of the lingo code. so it matters what is important graphics / code. As for protecting flash code - a few links action-script.org has a line of code that apparently throws an error for flash viewers - I personally never used/tested it but... - void(a)<=b>"c"||0(!1 && !0); -- http://www.actionscript.com/archives/0355.html <http://www.actionscript.com/archives/0355.html> www.flashtools.com <http://www.flashtools.com> http://www.genable.com/aso/ <http://www.genable.com/aso/> hope that helps. jay miller Mosh Teitelbaum wrote: Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't completely protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ <http://www.evoch.com/> -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web Based CD key Luis Lebron wrote: A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set up something with Flash Remoting. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
The problem is that the presentation is to big to download. That's why they want to use an encrypted cd. Luis -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web Based CD key Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't completely protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > Luis Lebron wrote: > > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? > > Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set > up something with Flash Remoting. > > Jochem > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
Maybe you could convert it to Flash, as Jochem suggested, but make a few key portions of the presentation require downloaded content. Key portions could include the first few frames worth of material, key audio clips, etc. As before, you can only get to the downloadable content after authentication via the "CD Key." -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Luis Lebron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > The problem is that the presentation is to big to download. > That's why they > want to use an encrypted cd. > > > Luis > > -Original Message- > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't completely > protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow > someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. > > You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real > presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation > wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. > > -- > Mosh Teitelbaum > evoch, LLC > Tel: (301) 625-9191 > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > > > > Luis Lebron wrote: > > > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? > > > > Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set > > up something with Flash Remoting. > > > > Jochem > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Web Based CD key
IIRC the Star Wars Phantom Menace DVD did something like this in reverse. The software checked for the existence of the DVD before allowing a web site with exclusive content to load. It was all done with software from Interactual. Could something to look into. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Luis Lebron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > The problem is that the presentation is to big to download. > That's why they > want to use an encrypted cd. > > > Luis > > -Original Message- > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't completely > protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow > someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. > > You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real > presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation > wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. > > -- > Mosh Teitelbaum > evoch, LLC > Tel: (301) 625-9191 > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > > > > Luis Lebron wrote: > > > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? > > > > Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and set > > up something with Flash Remoting. > > > > Jochem > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Web Based CD key
Can't you write VB scripts for Power Point? You need to write a script that can write a key to the computer then looks for a key on the computer to run the presentation. The key could be in the registry, INI file, etc. You could even encrypt and bind the key to the NIC ID. Hope the CD is not a hybrid for Mac and PC though. :) > -Original Message- > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:08 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > Maybe you could convert it to Flash, as Jochem suggested, but make a few > key > portions of the presentation require downloaded content. Key portions > could > include the first few frames worth of material, key audio clips, etc. As > before, you can only get to the downloadable content after authentication > via the "CD Key." > > -- > Mosh Teitelbaum > evoch, LLC > Tel: (301) 625-9191 > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Luis Lebron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:59 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > > > > The problem is that the presentation is to big to download. > > That's why they > > want to use an encrypted cd. > > > > > > Luis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:34 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Web Based CD key > > > > > > Good call. Just make sure the client knows that it still isn't > completely > > protected. There are SWF decompilers available that would likely allow > > someone to bypass whatever security mechanisms are embedded in the SWF. > > > > You could include a Flash file that essentially downloads the real > > presentation from the website after validation. Since the presentation > > wouldn't be on the CD, there'd be no way to "hack" it. > > > > -- > > Mosh Teitelbaum > > evoch, LLC > > Tel: (301) 625-9191 > > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:56 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Web Based CD key > > > > > > > > > Luis Lebron wrote: > > > > A PowerPoint Presentation done with Microsoft Presenter? > > > > > > Convert it to Flash (IIRC converters are commercialy available) and > set > > > up something with Flash Remoting. > > > > > > Jochem > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
