Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Josh Nathanson

Well, it seems the proper state of affairs would be that CF reports 41 and
Linux reports 40.  So the CF instance that is reporting 40 is the one that
is out of whack.  Maybe that would be a good jumping off point.

I have Railo running on Linux and Adobe CF running on Windows here, and they
both report 41 for #week( now() )#.  And my Linux instance reports 40 for
date +%W.

-- Josh



On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> I suspect that one might be a throw-back to the Jurassic period but the
> lack
> of stone suggests Dell might have simply managed to construct a freak that
> doesn't happen to be shaped like a lemon :)
>
> Me thinks running a magnet over the case and starting again would be a good
> idea... lol
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> > Sent: 05 October 2011 00:09
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> >
> >
> > Is the epoch of both servers identical?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Edward Chanter 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > They both use jrun, I didn't change it so they should both be exactly
> > > the same. The servers are not 10 years old (fortunately) one is about
> > > 2 years old and the other 4  :)
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com]
> > > > Sent: 04 October 2011 23:50
> > > > To: cf-talk
> > > > Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know the various JVM versions have had issues with DST settings in
> > > > the past (like 10 years ago); do your 2 servers have the same JRE
> > > > configured
> > > for
> > > > CF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/4/2011 6:13 PM, Edward Chanter wrote:
> > > > > Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know
> > > > > where CF ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()#
> > > > > I assume that's the system time but when I do #week(now())# is
> > > > > that the CF server taking #now()# and deriving the week or does it
> > > > > get that from jrun or linux or does it work things out on its own?
> > > > > What could make a CF 8.0.1 server on one linux machine say that
> > > > > the exact same date/time/timezone is week 41 and every other CF
> > > > > server that I know of
> > > > say it's week 40?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty]
> > > > > has decided to inhabit one of my servers?
> > > > >
> > > > > The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot
> > > > > for not thinking about it when I do find out what it is
> > > > >
> > > > >> -Original Message-
> > > > >> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
> > > > >> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next
> > > > >> to the time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both
> > > > >> cases I used "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
> > > > >> +%W" to get the linux date
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have
> > > > >> only ever seen this happen on one machine.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > > >>> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ
> > > > >>> by 1, as cf
> > > > >> is
> > > > >>> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would
> > > > >>> return 40 on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 1) they are both the same server date?
> > > > >>> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> > > > >>> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the
> integer?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

I suspect that one might be a throw-back to the Jurassic period but the lack
of stone suggests Dell might have simply managed to construct a freak that
doesn't happen to be shaped like a lemon :)

Me thinks running a magnet over the case and starting again would be a good
idea... lol

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: 05 October 2011 00:09
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> 
> 
> Is the epoch of both servers identical?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Edward Chanter 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > They both use jrun, I didn't change it so they should both be exactly
> > the same. The servers are not 10 years old (fortunately) one is about
> > 2 years old and the other 4  :)
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com]
> > > Sent: 04 October 2011 23:50
> > > To: cf-talk
> > > Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> > >
> > >
> > > I know the various JVM versions have had issues with DST settings in
> > > the past (like 10 years ago); do your 2 servers have the same JRE
> > > configured
> > for
> > > CF?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/4/2011 6:13 PM, Edward Chanter wrote:
> > > > Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know
> > > > where CF ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()#
> > > > I assume that's the system time but when I do #week(now())# is
> > > > that the CF server taking #now()# and deriving the week or does it
> > > > get that from jrun or linux or does it work things out on its own?
> > > > What could make a CF 8.0.1 server on one linux machine say that
> > > > the exact same date/time/timezone is week 41 and every other CF
> > > > server that I know of
> > > say it's week 40?
> > > >
> > > > Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty]
> > > > has decided to inhabit one of my servers?
> > > >
> > > > The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot
> > > > for not thinking about it when I do find out what it is
> > > >
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
> > > >> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next
> > > >> to the time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both
> > > >> cases I used "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
> > > >> +%W" to get the linux date
> > > >>
> > > >> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have
> > > >> only ever seen this happen on one machine.
> > > >>
> > > >> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
> > > >>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ
> > > >>> by 1, as cf
> > > >> is
> > > >>> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would
> > > >>> return 40 on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1) they are both the same server date?
> > > >>> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> > > >>> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Grant

Is the epoch of both servers identical?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> They both use jrun, I didn't change it so they should both be exactly the
> same. The servers are not 10 years old (fortunately) one is about 2 years
> old and the other 4  :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com]
> > Sent: 04 October 2011 23:50
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> >
> >
> > I know the various JVM versions have had issues with DST settings in the
> > past (like 10 years ago); do your 2 servers have the same JRE configured
> for
> > CF?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/4/2011 6:13 PM, Edward Chanter wrote:
> > > Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know where
> > > CF ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()# I assume
> > > that's the system time but when I do #week(now())# is that the CF
> > > server taking #now()# and deriving the week or does it get that from
> > > jrun or linux or does it work things out on its own? What could make a
> > > CF 8.0.1 server on one linux machine say that the exact same
> > > date/time/timezone is week 41 and every other CF server that I know of
> > say it's week 40?
> > >
> > > Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty] has
> > > decided to inhabit one of my servers?
> > >
> > > The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot for
> > > not thinking about it when I do find out what it is
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
> > >> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next to
> > >> the time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both cases I
> > >> used "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
> > >> +%W" to get the linux date
> > >>
> > >> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have only
> > >> ever seen this happen on one machine.
> > >>
> > >> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
> > >>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1,
> > >>> as cf
> > >> is
> > >>> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40
> > >>> on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) they are both the same server date?
> > >>> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> > >>> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

They both use jrun, I didn't change it so they should both be exactly the
same. The servers are not 10 years old (fortunately) one is about 2 years
old and the other 4  :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com]
> Sent: 04 October 2011 23:50
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> 
> 
> I know the various JVM versions have had issues with DST settings in the
> past (like 10 years ago); do your 2 servers have the same JRE configured
for
> CF?
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/4/2011 6:13 PM, Edward Chanter wrote:
> > Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know where
> > CF ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()# I assume
> > that's the system time but when I do #week(now())# is that the CF
> > server taking #now()# and deriving the week or does it get that from
> > jrun or linux or does it work things out on its own? What could make a
> > CF 8.0.1 server on one linux machine say that the exact same
> > date/time/timezone is week 41 and every other CF server that I know of
> say it's week 40?
> >
> > Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty] has
> > decided to inhabit one of my servers?
> >
> > The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot for
> > not thinking about it when I do find out what it is
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
> >> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next to
> >> the time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both cases I
> >> used "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
> >> +%W" to get the linux date
> >>
> >> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have only
> >> ever seen this happen on one machine.
> >>
> >> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1,
> >>> as cf
> >> is
> >>> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40
> >>> on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> >>>
> >>> 1) they are both the same server date?
> >>> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> >>> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
> >
> >
> 
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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Jason Fisher

I know the various JVM versions have had issues with DST settings in the 
past (like 10 years ago); do your 2 servers have the same JRE configured 
for CF?



On 10/4/2011 6:13 PM, Edward Chanter wrote:
> Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know where CF
> ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()# I assume that's the
> system time but when I do #week(now())# is that the CF server taking #now()#
> and deriving the week or does it get that from jrun or linux or does it work
> things out on its own? What could make a CF 8.0.1 server on one linux
> machine say that the exact same date/time/timezone is week 41 and every
> other CF server that I know of say it's week 40?
>
> Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty] has
> decided to inhabit one of my servers?
>
> The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot for not
> thinking about it when I do find out what it is
>
>> -Original Message-
>> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
>> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next to the
>> time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both cases I used
>> "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
>> +%W" to get the linux date
>>
>> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have only ever
>> seen this happen on one machine.
>>
>> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1,
>>> as cf
>> is
>>> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40
>>> on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
>>>
>>> 1) they are both the same server date?
>>> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
>>> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
>
> 

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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

Thinking about this on a more technical level, does anyone know where CF
ultimately derives the week number? When I enter #now()# I assume that's the
system time but when I do #week(now())# is that the CF server taking #now()#
and deriving the week or does it get that from jrun or linux or does it work
things out on its own? What could make a CF 8.0.1 server on one linux
machine say that the exact same date/time/timezone is week 41 and every
other CF server that I know of say it's week 40?

Why do I feel like an evil little [enter name of favourite nasty] has
decided to inhabit one of my servers?

The explanation must be so simple that I will call myself an idiot for not
thinking about it when I do find out what it is

> -Original Message-
> 1. Yes, exact same date and time
> 2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next to the
> time when I do a date command in linux 3. Yes in both cases I used
> "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
> +%W" to get the linux date
> 
> I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have only ever
> seen this happen on one machine.
> 
> "Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1,
> > as cf
> is
> > 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40
> > on one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> >
> > 1) they are both the same server date?
> > 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> > 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
> 


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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

1. Yes, exact same date and time
2. Yes both are set to timezone London and both report "BST" next to the
time when I do a date command in linux
3. Yes in both cases I used "#week(now())#" to get the CF date and "date
+%W" to get the linux date

I've setup and configured quite a few CF linux servers and have only ever
seen this happen on one machine.

"Welcome to Weirdsville, population: me" :(

> -Original Message-
> Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1, as cf
is
> 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40 on
> one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
> 
> 1) they are both the same server date?
> 2) they are both the same timezone offset?
> 3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?


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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hastings

On 10/5/2011 12:15 AM, Drew Nathanson wrote:
>
> You might want to make sure that both machine are on the same time zone and
> locale. If they are different, that would explain it. My linux server returns
> 40.

locale has nothing to do w/this.

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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Drew Nathanson

You might want to make sure that both machine are on the same time zone and 
locale. If they are different, that would explain it. My linux server returns 
40.

-Drew

>Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1, as cf
>is 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40 on
>one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:
>
>1) they are both the same server date?
>2) they are both the same timezone offset?
>3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Yes indeed :(
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > Do both servers have the same version of CF?
>>
>>
>> 

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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

Yes indeed :(

> -Original Message-
> Do both servers have the same version of CF?


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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Grant

Very odd indeed. It makes sense that linux and cf would differ by 1, as cf
is 1-53. However it doesn't make any sense to me why cf would return 40 on
one and 41 on the other. Can you verify:

1) they are both the same server date?
2) they are both the same timezone offset?
3) they are both using CF's week() function to return the integer?



On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> Yes indeed :(
>
> > -Original Message-
> > Do both servers have the same version of CF?
>
>
> 

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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Grant

Do both servers have the same version of CF?


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> According to the docs it's 0
>
> The weird thing is that I have 2 servers running the same version of linux
> and on one they both say 40 and on the other I get the discrepancy between
> linux and CF.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> > Sent: 04 October 2011 16:51
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> >
> >
> > Does linux use zero (0) as week one?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Edward Chanter 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever had a CF server's week number get out of sync with the
> > > server?
> > >
> > > When I run #week(now())# in Cf I get "41" but when I run the comman in
> > > linux "date +%W" I get 40
> > >
> > > It's causing all sorts of problems when pulling week based data from
> > > the dbase.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how I get them to sync up again? This is really weird.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > -= Ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

According to the docs it's 0

The weird thing is that I have 2 servers running the same version of linux
and on one they both say 40 and on the other I get the discrepancy between
linux and CF. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: 04 October 2011 16:51
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Week Weirdness
> 
> 
> Does linux use zero (0) as week one?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Edward Chanter 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Has anyone ever had a CF server's week number get out of sync with the
> > server?
> >
> > When I run #week(now())# in Cf I get "41" but when I run the comman in
> > linux "date +%W" I get 40
> >
> > It's causing all sorts of problems when pulling week based data from
> > the dbase.
> >
> > Does anyone know how I get them to sync up again? This is really weird.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Grant

Does linux use zero (0) as week one?


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone ever had a CF server's week number get out of sync with the
> server?
>
> When I run #week(now())# in Cf I get "41" but when I run the comman in
> linux
> "date +%W" I get 40
>
> It's causing all sorts of problems when pulling week based data from the
> dbase.
>
> Does anyone know how I get them to sync up again? This is really weird.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> -= Ed
>
>
>
>
> 

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Week Weirdness

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Chanter

Hey all,

Has anyone ever had a CF server's week number get out of sync with the
server?

When I run #week(now())# in Cf I get "41" but when I run the comman in linux
"date +%W" I get 40

It's causing all sorts of problems when pulling week based data from the
dbase.

Does anyone know how I get them to sync up again? This is really weird.

Thanks in advance

-= Ed




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