RE: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Watts
> Not sure! could you explain why it would be a good idea to 
> call a custom tag within a cfoutput tag?

One reason that occurs to me offhand would be if you're using CFSETTING to
only output things that are explicitly within CFOUTPUT. I'm not sure why
people think it's a bad idea to use CFML within CFOUTPUT tags, though.

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-24 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>could you explain why it would be a good idea to call a custom tag 
within a cfoutput tag?

I didn't say it was a good idea. Rather I was asking why it would be a 
bad idea?

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-23 Thread Barney Boisvert
How about:



  #id#
  #name#
  view



Some hypothetical context:  the site uses SEF urls, and the l:link tag
takes care of creating the A tag with the SEF url embedded.

cheers,
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:26:25 -0400, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>it's not a good idea to call any tag within a CFOUTPUT tag
> >
> >Why not gracious Lord?
> 
> Not sure! could you explain why it would be a good idea to call a custom tag 
> within a cfoutput tag?

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-23 Thread Andrew Grosset
>>>it's not a good idea to call any tag within a CFOUTPUT tag
>
>Why not gracious Lord?

Not sure! could you explain why it would be a good idea to call a custom tag 
within a cfoutput tag?

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>it's not a good idea to call any tag within a CFOUTPUT tag

Why not gracious Lord?

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
In general, I'd agree.  But that's not a reason to make your custom
tags dependant on that fact, particularly one whose purpose is to
reduce whitespace. 
http://www.spike.org.uk/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=CC663650-D565-E33F-3DA8032FED9A0DC8
 Spike's got a nice method for ensuring that your tags aren't called
from within CFOUTPUT.  might be a good candidate for that tag.

cheers,
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:57:07 -0400, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> me thinks it's not a good idea to call any tag within a CFOUTPUT tag...at 
> least I'd try not to if at all possible.
> 
> Andrew.

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew Grosset
me thinks it's not a good idea to call any tag within a CFOUTPUT tag...at least 
I'd try not to if at all possible.

Andrew.

> If you call the tag within a CFOUTPUT tag, then you'll get a few 
> extra
> lines of whitespace above the whitespace-suppressed content.  The
> actual suppression won't be affected, but the tag itself will 
> generate
> a few extra lines.  If it's not within a CFOUTPUT tag, then it won't
> put those extra few lines in there.
> 
> cheers,
> barneyb
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:15 -0400, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com> wrote:
> > Hmmm
> > 
> > I can't give you an example but using MX6.1 and with strengthmode on 
> maximum it will eliminate 99% of whitespace and output all the html on 
> one line
> > 
> > Andrew.
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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
If you call the tag within a CFOUTPUT tag, then you'll get a few extra
lines of whitespace above the whitespace-suppressed content.  The
actual suppression won't be affected, but the tag itself will generate
a few extra lines.  If it's not within a CFOUTPUT tag, then it won't
put those extra few lines in there.

cheers,
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:15 -0400, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm
> 
> I can't give you an example but using MX6.1 and with strengthmode on maximum 
> it will eliminate 99% of whitespace and output all the html on one line
> 
> Andrew.

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew Grosset
>Ironically, this tag has exactly the problem I illustrated, and
>consequently will usually end up rendering a bunch of extra whitespace
>itself.
>
>cheers,
>barneyb
>

Hmmm

I can't give you an example but using MX6.1 and with strengthmode on maximum it 
will eliminate 99% of whitespace and output all the html on one line

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFSAVECONTENT will do exactly what you need.

If the output is going to take a lot of steps to create, you might
want to look at not using raw string concatenation.  Check
http://www.barneyb.com/blog/archives/2004_12.jsp#000250 for a couple
methods for avoiding it.

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:50:20 -0700, Jim McAtee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I've decided to do is build the output of the tag within a string and
> use:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> #tagout#
> 
> But the old tag had a conditional where it would call another tag
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Can I capture the output of that called tag and place it into the tagout
> string variable?

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Jim McAtee
What I've decided to do is build the output of the tag within a string and 
use:




#tagout#

But the old tag had a conditional where it would call another tag


  


Can I capture the output of that called tag and place it into the tagout 
string variable?


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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Whitespace Woes


>I think that's it.  Thanks Barney.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Whitespace Woes
>
>
>> CFOUTPUT carries across includes and tags for enableCFOUTPUTonly
>> processing.  So if the tag is called within a CFOUTPUT block, your
>> CFSETTING tag will have no effect.  Since that info is outside the
>> scope of what the tag can possibly know, you're better off skipping
>> CFSETTING and only using CFSILENT inside custom tags.  It might be
>> overkill sometimes, but it's always guarenteed to work.


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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
Ironically, this tag has exactly the problem I illustrated, and
consequently will usually end up rendering a bunch of extra whitespace
itself.

cheers,
barneyb


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:34:08 -0400, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >CF5/IIS5
> >
> >I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as
> >possible -
> 
> another way is to use this custom tag: StripWhiteSpace.cfm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
>   
>  "[[:space:]]{2,}", " ", "ALL")>
>   
>   
>  "([#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#][^[:graph:]]*[#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#])", 
> "#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#", "ALL")>
>  "[ #Chr(9)#]{2,}", "", "ALL")>
>   
>   
>  "([#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#][^[:graph:]]*[#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#])", 
> "#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#", "ALL")>
>  "[ #Chr(9)#]{2,}", " ", "ALL")>
>   
>   
>  "([#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#][^[:graph:]]*[#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#])", 
> "#Chr(13)##Chr(10)#", "ALL")>
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure who originally wrote it, but it works well.
> 
> If you place it in the same directory as the calling template you can call it 
> like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew Grosset
>CF5/IIS5
>
>I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as 
>possible - 

another way is to use this custom tag: StripWhiteSpace.cfm





  
  


  
  
  
  


  


  



  



  


  

  

  

  





I'm not sure who originally wrote it, but it works well.

If you place it in the same directory as the calling template you can call it 
like this:





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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Jim McAtee
I think that's it.  Thanks Barney.

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From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Whitespace Woes


> CFOUTPUT carries across includes and tags for enableCFOUTPUTonly
> processing.  So if the tag is called within a CFOUTPUT block, your
> CFSETTING tag will have no effect.  Since that info is outside the
> scope of what the tag can possibly know, you're better off skipping
> CFSETTING and only using CFSILENT inside custom tags.  It might be
> overkill sometimes, but it's always guarenteed to work.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:09:54 -0700, Jim McAtee 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> CF5/IIS5
>>
>> I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as
>> possible - or so I thought.  Basically, as shown bellow.  Much more
>> complex, including many queries, but the key is that only one 
>> 
>> block gets executed between the  tags.  The whole tag should
>> produce only about 50 characters of output.
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   ...
>>   
>>   ...
>> 
>>   
>>   ...
>>   
>>   ...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> But the tag is producing a _lot_ of white space, both before and after 
>> the
>> executed  block, and I cannot figure out where it's coming 
>> from.
>> Everything within the cfinclude'd template shown above is itself 
>> contained
>> within a  block, as it only sets some variables.
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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Jim McAtee
Application.cfm is entirely within a  block as well.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gaulin, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Whitespace Woes


> The standard answer for this question is "Did you check any 
> application.cfm files?"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Whitespace Woes
>
>
> CF5/IIS5
>
> I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as
> possible - or so I thought.  Basically, as shown bellow.  Much more
> complex, including many queries, but the key is that only one 
> block gets executed between the  tags.  The whole tag should
> produce only about 50 characters of output.
>
>
> 
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> 
>  
>  ...
>  
>  ...
> 
>  
>  ...
>  
>  ...
> 
> .
> 
>
>
> But the tag is producing a _lot_ of white space, both before and after 
> the
> executed  block, and I cannot figure out where it's coming 
> from.
> Everything within the cfinclude'd template shown above is itself 
> contained
> within a  block, as it only sets some variables.
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFOUTPUT carries across includes and tags for enableCFOUTPUTonly
processing.  So if the tag is called within a CFOUTPUT block, your
CFSETTING tag will have no effect.  Since that info is outside the
scope of what the tag can possibly know, you're better off skipping
CFSETTING and only using CFSILENT inside custom tags.  It might be
overkill sometimes, but it's always guarenteed to work.

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:09:54 -0700, Jim McAtee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF5/IIS5
> 
> I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as
> possible - or so I thought.  Basically, as shown bellow.  Much more
> complex, including many queries, but the key is that only one 
> block gets executed between the  tags.  The whole tag should
> produce only about 50 characters of output.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   ...
>   
>   ...
> 
>   
>   ...
>   
>   ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> But the tag is producing a _lot_ of white space, both before and after the
> executed  block, and I cannot figure out where it's coming from.
> Everything within the cfinclude'd template shown above is itself contained
> within a  block, as it only sets some variables.

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RE: Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Gaulin, Mark
The standard answer for this question is "Did you check any application.cfm 
files?"

-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Whitespace Woes


CF5/IIS5

I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as 
possible - or so I thought.  Basically, as shown bellow.  Much more 
complex, including many queries, but the key is that only one  
block gets executed between the  tags.  The whole tag should 
produce only about 50 characters of output.




.

.


  
  ...
  
  ...

  
  ...
  
  ...

.



But the tag is producing a _lot_ of white space, both before and after the 
executed  block, and I cannot figure out where it's coming from. 
Everything within the cfinclude'd template shown above is itself contained 
within a  block, as it only sets some variables.




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Whitespace Woes

2005-03-22 Thread Jim McAtee
CF5/IIS5

I have a CFML tag constructed to produce as little white space as 
possible - or so I thought.  Basically, as shown bellow.  Much more 
complex, including many queries, but the key is that only one  
block gets executed between the  tags.  The whole tag should 
produce only about 50 characters of output.









  
  ...
  
  ...

  
  ...
  
  ...





But the tag is producing a _lot_ of white space, both before and after the 
executed  block, and I cannot figure out where it's coming from. 
Everything within the cfinclude'd template shown above is itself contained 
within a  block, as it only sets some variables.


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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-25 Thread BEN MORRIS
I've had success when outputting CSV data w/ using , and then  to 
avoid outputting any junk.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 05:08PM >>>
Did you check for something in application.cfm?

-Original Message-
From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: whitespace woes


I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs) 
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my 
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd




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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Clint Tredway
If you are using CF 4.5 or above you can use the  tag to not
output anything.

Clint


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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Shawn Kernes
try using  - I have found with both 4.5 and 5 that it sometimes
will allow you to suppress whitespace that you cant with




-Original Message-
From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:mgaulin@;globalspec.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: whitespace woes


Did you check for something in application.cfm?

-Original Message-
From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: whitespace woes


I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd




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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Will Stalder
As a few people suggested, I played around with the application.cfm file - I 
had not realized that it was appended to the beginning of my regular .cfm 
file.

Interestingly enough, application.cfm didn't contain any excess spaces, but 
it did have several non-outputting tags each on their own line, so I imagine 
it was the CR's that were giving me grief.

Anyhow, put all of application.cfm on one line, and my mysterious space is 
now gone.

Thanks to all who helped out.

Todd


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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
Do you have an Application.cfm file that is being run perhaps?

On Thursday, Oct 24, 2002, at 12:13 US/Pacific, Will Stalder wrote:

> I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
> yes, I've done my Google searching.
>
> The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
> that there not be any whitespace before the 
> declaration.
>
> An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
> numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:
>
> 1  ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 2 
> 3 
> 4 
> 5 
> 6 
> 7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 8 
> 9 
> 10 
> 11 
>
> So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if 
> the
> form is submitted, it spits out XML.
>
> As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate 
> CF's
> whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
>
> The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
> problem is the same in my big one):
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> You'll note the extra space before the  Very
> annoying.
>
> In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
> whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what 
> point
> ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version follows 
> (note the
> extra "1" on the first line):
>
> 1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL 
> inputs)
> is:
> 1
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
> whitespace-suppressing measures.
>
> All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
> manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
>
> Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
> knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
> recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd

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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Did you check for something in application.cfm?

-Original Message-
From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: whitespace woes


I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs) 
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my 
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd



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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
If you've got an application.cfm file that's prepending to your xml output
page, you might want to wrap the entire application.cfm in
 -- and make sure there's no extra carriage returns at
the top or bottom.

Isaac
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954-776-0046

> I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous
> whitespace.  And
> yes, I've done my Google searching.

> The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and
> it's crucial
> that there not be any whitespace before the  version="1.0"?>
> declaration.

> An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script
> (with line
> numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

> 1  SUPPRESSWHITESPACE="Yes"> ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 2 
> 3 
> 4 
> 5 
> 6 
> 7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 8 
> 9 
> 10 
> 11  ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="No">

> So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by
> default, and if the
> form is submitted, it spits out XML.

> As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to
> eliminate CF's
> whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

> The problem is that this is what I get from this
> simplified script (the
> problem is the same in my big one):
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 

> You'll note the extra space before the  line.  Very
> annoying.

> In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at
> suppressing excess
> whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find
> out at what point
> ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version
> follows (note the
> extra "1" on the first line):

> 1 SUPPRESSWHITESPACE="Yes"> ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> 
>  ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="No">

> Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the
> proper URL inputs)
> is:
> 1
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 

> Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
> whitespace-suppressing measures.

> All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can
> go in and
> manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

> Are there any wise warriors out there that could help
> here?  To my
> knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server,
> although I only
> recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

> Thanks,
> Todd


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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Any chance the space is being added in the Application.cfm file?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:13 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: whitespace woes
>
>
> I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
> yes, I've done my Google searching.
>
> The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
> that there not be any whitespace before the 
> declaration.
>
> An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
> numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:
>
> 1  ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 2 
> 3 
> 4 
> 5 
> 6 
> 7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 8 
> 9 
> 10 
> 11 
>
> So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
> form is submitted, it spits out XML.
>
> As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
> whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
>
> The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
> problem is the same in my big one):
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> You'll note the extra space before the  annoying.
>
> In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
> whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what point
> ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version
> follows (note the
> extra "1" on the first line):
>
> 1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
> is:
> 1
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
> whitespace-suppressing measures.
>
> All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
> manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
>
> Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
> knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
> recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
>
> 
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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Rob Rohan
I feel you pain my brother. Put it all on one line.

-Original Message-
From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: whitespace woes


I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd



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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Will Stalder wrote:

> I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  

Which version?

Jochem

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RE: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Try this:




 


 

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";> 

 


 clears the output buffer (including whitespace) prior to
resetting the content-type header. At least, that's how it works in CF 4.x
and CF 5. I had this problem as well delivering a web service to a platform
using a weak COM parser. Forget the  I've never seen
it work correctly anyway .

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Will Stalder [mailto:skith_diphi@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: whitespace woes


I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd



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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
What is in the Application.cfm file doing to you? Could the whitespace get added in 
there?

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 03:13PM >>>
I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs) 
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my 
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd



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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Brook Davies
Try wrapping the entire thing in a cfsavecontent tag and then trim the output:








http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>







#TRIM(XMLOUTPUT#




At 02:13 PM 24/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
>yes, I've done my Google searching.
>
>The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
>that there not be any whitespace before the 
>declaration.
>
>An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
>numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:
>
>1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
>2 
>3 
>4 
>5 
>6 
>7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>8 
>9 
>10 
>11 
>
>So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
>form is submitted, it spits out XML.
>
>As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
>whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
>
>The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
>problem is the same in my big one):
>
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>You'll note the extra space before the annoying.
>
>In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
>whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what point
>ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version follows (note the
>extra "1" on the first line):
>
>1ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
>
>
>
>
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>
>
>
>Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
>is:
>1
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
>whitespace-suppressing measures.
>
>All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
>manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
>
>Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
>knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
>recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
>
>Thanks,
>Todd
>
>
>
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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Jeffry Houser
  Just for the record, CFMX does not add the space.  I had some problems 
recently developing something on CFMX and uploading to a CF5 server.  : 
grumbles:

  What you may want to try is to generate everything as a variable and then 
output the variable.
  I'm not sure if this will help with the extra space problem, though.  You 
may want to see if cfsilent is supported on your version.  I believe it was 
introduced in CF5, though and does not exist in CF45.

At 02:13 PM 10/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
>yes, I've done my Google searching.
>
>The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
>that there not be any whitespace before the 
>declaration.
>
>An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
>numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:
>
>1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
>2 
>3 
>4 
>5 
>6 
>7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>8 
>9 
>10 
>11 
>
>So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
>form is submitted, it spits out XML.
>
>As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
>whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
>
>The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
>problem is the same in my big one):
>
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>You'll note the extra space before the annoying.
>
>In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
>whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what point
>ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version follows (note the
>extra "1" on the first line):
>
>1ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
>
>
>
>
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>
>
>
>Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
>is:
>1
>http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
>
>
>Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
>whitespace-suppressing measures.
>
>All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
>manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
>
>Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
>knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
>recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
>
>Thanks,
>Todd
>
>
>
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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Ian Lurie
Try this:

1 
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
2 
3 
4 
5 


It's ugly, but it seems to work pretty well - it's the carriage returns that
end up generating the whitespace.

Ian

> 
> So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
> form is submitted, it spits out XML.
> 
> As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
> whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
> 
> The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
> problem is the same in my big one):
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> You'll note the extra space before the  annoying.
> 
> In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
> whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what point
> ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version follows (note the
> extra "1" on the first line):
> 
> 1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
> is:
> 1
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
> whitespace-suppressing measures.
> 
> All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
> manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
> 
> Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
> knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
> recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
> 
> Thanks,
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
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Re: whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread cf-talk
Quick shot in the dark (I have a meeting to run to) but I think that having
the CFOUTPUT on a line of it's own could be causing your problem.  Try
something like this:



Instead of :




Let me know if that works (or at least cuts down on your whitespace).
Remember, the ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY is doing exactly what you told it to do...
it's putting in that CR right after the .  ;-)

-Novak


- Original Message -
From: "Will Stalder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: whitespace woes


> I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
> yes, I've done my Google searching.
>
> The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
> that there not be any whitespace before the 
> declaration.
>
> An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
> numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:
>
> 1  ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 2 
> 3 
> 4 
> 5 
> 6 
> 7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 8 
> 9 
> 10 
> 11 
>
> So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
> form is submitted, it spits out XML.
>
> As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
> whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.
>
> The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
> problem is the same in my big one):
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> You'll note the extra space before the  annoying.
>
> In an attempt to discover why all my attempts at suppressing excess
> whitespace failed, I inserted random characters to find out at what point
> ColdFusion was inserting that space.  A simplified version follows (note
the
> extra "1" on the first line):
>
> 1 ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes" SHOWDEBUGOUTPUT="No">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs)
> is:
> 1
> http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
> 
>
> Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
> whitespace-suppressing measures.
>
> All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
> manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.
>
> Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my
> knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
> recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
>
> 
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whitespace woes

2002-10-24 Thread Will Stalder
I'm having with trouble with ColdFusion and extraneous whitespace.  And
yes, I've done my Google searching.

The problem is that I'm trying to output an XML file, and it's crucial
that there not be any whitespace before the 
declaration.

An extremely simplified likeness of my ColdFusion script (with line
numbers, lest e-mail word-wrapping confuse you) is thus:

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>
8 
9 
10 
11 

So this page shows an HTML page with a form on it by default, and if the
form is submitted, it spits out XML.

As you can see, I'm trying at least two different ways to eliminate CF's
whitespace: the SuppressWhitespace and EnableCFOutputOnly.

The problem is that this is what I get from this simplified script (the
problem is the same in my big one):

http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


You'll note the extra space before the 





http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>





Much to my surprise, the output of this file (with the proper URL inputs) 
is:
1
http://www.foo.com/bar.dtd";>


Which means the space is being added *before* any of my
whitespace-suppressing measures.

All of which just annoys the heck out of me.  Sure, I can go in and
manually delete that space, but I shouldn't *have* to.

Are there any wise warriors out there that could help here?  To my 
knowledge, we're running ColdFusion 4.0 on the server, although I only
recently inherited this project, and I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Todd


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