Re: image effects
lol Will's more like the family dog that gets beat. >I forgot to mention the entertainment value of the >"family feud" between you, Dave1, and Will. :o) > >Rick > >> ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
I forgot to mention the entertainment value of the "family feud" between you, Dave1, and Will. :o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:46 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > I come here just to pick on Will ;)~ > > >I'm surprised. This is such a valuable list, especially > >for those of us not so advanced, but I would assume that even > >advanced programmers would get good ideas, too. > > > >Rick > > > > > >> > What other major lists are there? > >> > >> None that I'm aware of. I'm fairly certain that most CF programmers don't > >> subscribe to any CF list. > >> > > ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293858 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
I come here just to pick on Will ;)~ >I'm surprised. This is such a valuable list, especially >for those of us not so advanced, but I would assume that even >advanced programmers would get good ideas, too. > >Rick > > >> > What other major lists are there? >> >> None that I'm aware of. I'm fairly certain that most CF programmers don't >> subscribe to any CF list. >> ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
I'm surprised. This is such a valuable list, especially for those of us not so advanced, but I would assume that even advanced programmers would get good ideas, too. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: image effects > > > What other major lists are there? > > None that I'm aware of. I'm fairly certain that most CF programmers don't > subscribe to any CF list. > ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293849 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
> What other major lists are there? None that I'm aware of. I'm fairly certain that most CF programmers don't subscribe to any CF list. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293848 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
> I'd find it > hard to believe you wouldn't just contact him. Again, it's not a knock against Pete personally, I've never even communicated with him. I'm just not interested enough in the product to engage in a dialogue about it... too much to do. But am I (and Claude) the only one who finds it strange that Pete would put up a component for sale and put up demos that don't even utilize the component? I may have to contact him to ask him what's up with that? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > I just want to +1 this. I read this list - but not very often. I try > to keep an eye out for support requests for my products, but I can't > monitor this VERY busy list all the time. > > Just as you might find it hard to believe he isn't here - I'd find it > hard to believe you wouldn't just contact him. > > http://foundeo.com/contact/ > > Pete is very much a stand up guy. > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:00 AM, Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are other communities other than just this list. The blogging > > community, the adobe forums, etc. Not everyone has every hour of the day to > > read cf-talk due to the sheer volume of emails it pumps out. I know I skim > > topics myself. > > > > Why don't you just email Pete yourself and ask him what's up? He's a pretty > > stand-up guy. > > > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:48 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > He must not be as interested in supporting the community as the > > > some of us in the community are interested in supporting him > > > if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all CF. > > > > > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products > > > for sale, and not being on this list. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
What other major lists are there? I must be leading a *very* sheltered life. And I'm asking a serious question. I may be missing some other great resources for learning. (And helping when I can... but just coming from CF 4.5, I'm afraid I've little to offer. I do subscribe to CF Newbie just in case I might help someone just getting started) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:28 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: image effects > > > He must not be as interested in supporting the community as > > the some of us in the community are interested in supporting > > him if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all > > CF. > > > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of > > products for sale, and not being on this list. > > I am quite certain that the vast majority of CF programmers are either > unaware of or uninterested in this list. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
He used to be on the list and and is a well respected guy which is why i forked out the cash for it. My comments weren't meant as a knock either, I just found it weird that his examples were using the component. When I get the time to mess with them and if I still have issue's I will contact him but I really don't feel like I "should" have to contact him for assistance with something I bought that shouldn't be to difficult to figure out or be better documented in the purchase. It's not like it was a fortune to pay but still it's a pretty high price for what it does. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293827 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
I just want to +1 this. I read this list - but not very often. I try to keep an eye out for support requests for my products, but I can't monitor this VERY busy list all the time. Just as you might find it hard to believe he isn't here - I'd find it hard to believe you wouldn't just contact him. http://foundeo.com/contact/ Pete is very much a stand up guy. On Nov 26, 2007 10:00 AM, Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are other communities other than just this list. The blogging > community, the adobe forums, etc. Not everyone has every hour of the day to > read cf-talk due to the sheer volume of emails it pumps out. I know I skim > topics myself. > > Why don't you just email Pete yourself and ask him what's up? He's a pretty > stand-up guy. > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:48 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He must not be as interested in supporting the community as the > > some of us in the community are interested in supporting him > > if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all CF. > > > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products > > for sale, and not being on this list. > > > > Rick > > > ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293820 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
> He must not be as interested in supporting the community as > the some of us in the community are interested in supporting > him if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all > CF. > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of > products for sale, and not being on this list. I am quite certain that the vast majority of CF programmers are either unaware of or uninterested in this list. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293817 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
Hi, Todd... My remarks weren't meant to be a knock on Pete as much to express my surpise that someone with something to sell to the CF community as a whole, wouldn't be on every major list. I know this list is not the be all and end all of the CF community, but, if I had something to sell, I'd at least be a subscriber and minimal participant. But, I won't judge his participation. He may be way too busy with other parts of the community and just can't afford the time... (or space in his inbox!) Anyway, he does need some marketing guidance if he's serious about selling that component. I'm not really interested enough in the product to contact Pete. He's probably aware of the issues anyway. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:00 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > There are other communities other than just this list. The blogging > community, the adobe forums, etc. Not everyone has every hour of the day to > read cf-talk due to the sheer volume of emails it pumps out. I know I skim > topics myself. > > Why don't you just email Pete yourself and ask him what's up? He's a pretty > stand-up guy. > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:48 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He must not be as interested in supporting the community as the > > some of us in the community are interested in supporting him > > if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all CF. > > > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products > > for sale, and not being on this list. > > > > Rick > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
There are other communities other than just this list. The blogging community, the adobe forums, etc. Not everyone has every hour of the day to read cf-talk due to the sheer volume of emails it pumps out. I know I skim topics myself. Why don't you just email Pete yourself and ask him what's up? He's a pretty stand-up guy. On Nov 26, 2007 10:48 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He must not be as interested in supporting the community as the > some of us in the community are interested in supporting him > if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all CF. > > I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products > for sale, and not being on this list. > > Rick ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293809 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>>I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products for sale, and not being on this list. Good point ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293811 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
He must not be as interested in supporting the community as the some of us in the community are interested in supporting him if he's not on this list... probably the main list for all CF. I can't imagine being a developer, especially a developer of products for sale, and not being on this list. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:08 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: image effects > > I'm not sure that Pete is on this list. > > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:53 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: image effects > > I understand... I like to pay a reasonable price for reasonable service. > And I like to use as few technologies as possible just to keep thing simple. > But there's something very wrong when even the demos on the page aren't > demos, but facsimiles. > > I hope the developer is listening... > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:44 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: image effects > > > > sure:) > > > > I was hoping I would like them and they would be useful and it would > > support another cfm guy but. > > > > >Thanks for the feedback, Dave, and the work. > > > > > >I know there are some jQuery plug-ins that do things now like add > > >shadows dynamically, but I thought I'd try it in CF first. > > > > > >jQuery is *free*, however... :o) Always a nice bonus! > > > > > >Rick > > > > > > > > ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293808 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
I'm not sure that Pete is on this list. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: image effects I understand... I like to pay a reasonable price for reasonable service. And I like to use as few technologies as possible just to keep thing simple. But there's something very wrong when even the demos on the page aren't demos, but facsimiles. I hope the developer is listening... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:44 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > sure:) > > I was hoping I would like them and they would be useful and it would > support another cfm guy but. > > >Thanks for the feedback, Dave, and the work. > > > >I know there are some jQuery plug-ins that do things now like add > >shadows dynamically, but I thought I'd try it in CF first. > > > >jQuery is *free*, however... :o) Always a nice bonus! > > > >Rick > > ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
I understand... I like to pay a reasonable price for reasonable service. And I like to use as few technologies as possible just to keep thing simple. But there's something very wrong when even the demos on the page aren't demos, but facsimiles. I hope the developer is listening... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:44 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > sure:) > > I was hoping I would like them and they would be useful and it would support > another cfm guy > but. > > >Thanks for the feedback, Dave, and the work. > > > >I know there are some jQuery plug-ins that do things now > >like add shadows dynamically, but I thought I'd try it in CF first. > > > >jQuery is *free*, however... :o) Always a nice bonus! > > > >Rick > > ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
sure:) I was hoping I would like them and they would be useful and it would support another cfm guy but. >Thanks for the feedback, Dave, and the work. > >I know there are some jQuery plug-ins that do things now >like add shadows dynamically, but I thought I'd try it in CF first. > >jQuery is *free*, however... :o) Always a nice bonus! > >Rick ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
Thanks for the feedback, Dave, and the work. I know there are some jQuery plug-ins that do things now like add shadows dynamically, but I thought I'd try it in CF first. jQuery is *free*, however... :o) Always a nice bonus! Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:16 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > Rick, > I'm not going to put up any examples, I just don't have the time and honestly > I spent a few > minutes with the component and it was quite frustrating especially if you > want to use it on > more than 1 image on a page. Maybe I am just missing something but I don't > want to add 10 > lines of code to do something i can do by just adding a class to an image. > > I'm sure somewhere, sometime I will find a use for these effects but at this > point it wasn't a > wise $40 spent, if it was like $10 I would say it's worth it but right now I > just don't see > the value. > ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
Rick, I'm not going to put up any examples, I just don't have the time and honestly I spent a few minutes with the component and it was quite frustrating especially if you want to use it on more than 1 image on a page. Maybe I am just missing something but I don't want to add 10 lines of code to do something i can do by just adding a class to an image. I'm sure somewhere, sometime I will find a use for these effects but at this point it wasn't a wise $40 spent, if it was like $10 I would say it's worth it but right now I just don't see the value. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293792 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>>Are these tags CF8 compatible? Actually, I didn' test, but I see no reason they shouldn't be. Especially for the CFX. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293784 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
True, true... great examples, Claude. Are these tags CF8 compatible? I didn't see that mentioned. ;o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:47 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > >>Now that *is* strange... great way to show off a product you want > people to spend money on. > > Not like those great tags shown at > http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > ;-) > > -- > ___ > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Thanks. > > > ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293783 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>>Now that *is* strange... great way to show off a product you want people to spend money on. Not like those great tags shown at http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293782 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
> the images they use on their site aren't even made with the tag, Now that *is* strange... great way to show off a product you want people to spend money on. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:21 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > I'll put some up. > It's funny, the images they use on their site aren't even made with the tag, > it's just an reg > image lol > > So far its ok, i really don't like that it seems to need to create a new > image file everytime > which would lead to a maintenance nightmare. I was kinda hoping you could > just wrap the > function around and image. I think for most things I will just use js since > all you need with > that is to add a class to the image. > > > >Just provide some online demos so I can see if the tags > >are worth the money... can't believe they didn't provide > >full demos of the products capabilities. > > > >Rick > > > >> > > ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
I'll put some up. It's funny, the images they use on their site aren't even made with the tag, it's just an reg image lol So far its ok, i really don't like that it seems to need to create a new image file everytime which would lead to a maintenance nightmare. I was kinda hoping you could just wrap the function around and image. I think for most things I will just use js since all you need with that is to add a class to the image. >Just provide some online demos so I can see if the tags >are worth the money... can't believe they didn't provide >full demos of the products capabilities. > >Rick > >> ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293771 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
Just provide some online demos so I can see if the tags are worth the money... can't believe they didn't provide full demos of the products capabilities. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:28 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > let me answer that 4 ya!haha > > btw~ i went ahead and just bought the tags so if anyone has any specific > questions on them > lemme know. > > > > >Bring it on! It'll either work or it won't! > > > >> > > ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293765 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
I stopped using cfform many years ago. I haven't even used cfinsert or cfupdate for about 6 years. I've managed to even use cfqueryparam in my queries for the last 4 or so years! Man, I'm high speed! ;o) Now, if I could just figure out how to create a CFC, I'd feel worthy. I'm still in the old cfinclude mode... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:51 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > yeah dont for get access too.. and oh yeah cfform > > > >>??? Is that a real tag? (Seriously, never head of that one...) > >> > >> > > > >dave can tellya ALL about it. He's like, the master of the tag. :) > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
>Coding your way _into_ a taco .. now that's impressive ;) I think that would be lying your way into a taco lol he cant do that either ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293761 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>Don't let Will fluster ya, he couldn't code his way out of a taco!!! Coding your way _into_ a taco .. now that's impressive ;) ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293760 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
let me answer that 4 ya!haha btw~ i went ahead and just bought the tags so if anyone has any specific questions on them lemme know. >Bring it on! It'll either work or it won't! > >> ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293759 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
well hell!! welcome to the world rick!! I don't get to check here much, getting way to behind! Don't let Will fluster ya, he couldn't code his way out of a taco!!! >Yeah, Dave... you're *way* behind my moves! > >I'm doing CF8, got high-speed VPS, working jQuery, >moved to complete CSS design! :o) > >I've even waiting for the CF8 Wack(s) to come out, >so I can stop referencing my CF4.0 Wack. :o) > >I've yet to use a .cfc, however... :o/ and I still >use Application.cfm... I'm all over the new cfimage >tags, however! > >Rick > > >> "but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o)" >> >> His advise would be whatever someone else tells him! haha >> >> Did I miss something Rick? You aren't using the Allaire version anymore :)~ >> >> >> ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
yeah dont for get access too.. and oh yeah cfform >>??? Is that a real tag? (Seriously, never head of that one...) >> >> > >dave can tellya ALL about it. He's like, the master of the tag. :) ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293755 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
Bring it on! It'll either work or it won't! > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > >I was thinking the same thing, Claude... he's still picking at me, > >but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o) > > > > > Dude, I got lotsa advice. I dunno if you should take it tho. :) > > Will > > ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
??? Is that a real tag? (Seriously, never head of that one...) > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 8:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > >I've yet to use a .cfc, however... :o/ and I still > >use Application.cfm... I'm all over the new cfimage > >tags, however! > > > > My god rick! WTF??? I couldn't even have a look at your code before wiping > off the dust! > > You're probably usin too? > > :) > > Will > > ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293747 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>??? Is that a real tag? (Seriously, never head of that one...) > > dave can tellya ALL about it. He's like, the master of the tag. :) ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293748 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
>I've yet to use a .cfc, however... :o/ and I still >use Application.cfm... I'm all over the new cfimage >tags, however! > My god rick! WTF??? I couldn't even have a look at your code before wiping off the dust! You're probably usin too? :) Will ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293746 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
Yeah, Dave... you're *way* behind my moves! I'm doing CF8, got high-speed VPS, working jQuery, moved to complete CSS design! :o) I've even waiting for the CF8 Wack(s) to come out, so I can stop referencing my CF4.0 Wack. :o) I've yet to use a .cfc, however... :o/ and I still use Application.cfm... I'm all over the new cfimage tags, however! Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:13 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > "but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o)" > > His advise would be whatever someone else tells him! haha > > Did I miss something Rick? You aren't using the Allaire version anymore :)~ > > > ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293745 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
>I was thinking the same thing, Claude... he's still picking at me, >but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o) > Dude, I got lotsa advice. I dunno if you should take it tho. :) Will ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293743 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
I know There are only like 5 of them, if it's that hard to put up all 5 examples then it's not worth it ;)~ Come on Peter!!! >I'd like to see some demos of the gradient and drop shadow. >Anyone know if any online? > >Rick ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
"but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o)" His advise would be whatever someone else tells him! haha Did I miss something Rick? You aren't using the Allaire version anymore :)~ ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293735 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
I was thinking the same thing, Claude... he's still picking at me, but I was wondering where his CF8 advice was... :o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:36 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > >>I cant get CF2/RICK out of my mind. > > Yeah, it's about time HE gives examples, instead of asking ;-) > > -- ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293733 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
>>I cant get CF2/RICK out of my mind. Yeah, it's about time HE gives examples, instead of asking ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: image effects
Hardeee, har, har... what a turkey. ;o) Man, I'm bleeding edge, CF8, VPS, jQuery, and total CSS design these days! (And it was CF4.5! :oP) Rick PS - Re: CF2/Rick...Maybe you need to upgrade you mind, Will... > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:21 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > >I'd like to see some demos of the gradient and drop shadow. > >Anyone know if any online? > > > >Rick > > It's still kinda strange when I read your posts now Rick. I cant get CF2/RICK > out of my mind. > > :) > > Will > > ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: image effects
I'd like to see some demos of the gradient and drop shadow. Anyone know if any online? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Antony Sideropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 8:05 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: image effects > > Remember you can save the file to disk after reflections, round corners, > text overlays, borders, etc, added with cfimage. probably not a great idea > to only write to browser 100 times... and without worrying about js support > in the browser. > > Regarding the foundeo package - at the preso other outputs were > demonstrated, not just the ones with screenshots on that page you linked to. > don't know if they are possible in js. > > On Nov 23, 2007 8:01 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Really I would use it for reflections and rounded corners but I can do > > that now with js and not sure what kind of performance hit it would take > > using the cfm tag if say there were 100 images to do. > > > > thanks for reply tho! > > > > > > >Hi Dave > > > > > >This was presented at CFCamp in Melbourne yesterday to demonstrate the > > power > > >of cfimage, and looked very impressive. > > > > > >The speaker, Adam Lehman, spoke pretty highly of it. Nothing you can't do > > >yourself with cfimage, but it's all bundled up and ready to go. > > > ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293714 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
>I'd like to see some demos of the gradient and drop shadow. >Anyone know if any online? > >Rick It's still kinda strange when I read your posts now Rick. I cant get CF2/RICK out of my mind. :) Will ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293716 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
Remember you can save the file to disk after reflections, round corners, text overlays, borders, etc, added with cfimage. probably not a great idea to only write to browser 100 times... and without worrying about js support in the browser. Regarding the foundeo package - at the preso other outputs were demonstrated, not just the ones with screenshots on that page you linked to. don't know if they are possible in js. On Nov 23, 2007 8:01 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really I would use it for reflections and rounded corners but I can do > that now with js and not sure what kind of performance hit it would take > using the cfm tag if say there were 100 images to do. > > thanks for reply tho! > > > >Hi Dave > > > >This was presented at CFCamp in Melbourne yesterday to demonstrate the > power > >of cfimage, and looked very impressive. > > > >The speaker, Adam Lehman, spoke pretty highly of it. Nothing you can't do > >yourself with cfimage, but it's all bundled up and ready to go. > > > >On Nov 23, 2007 2:04 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293709 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: image effects
Really I would use it for reflections and rounded corners but I can do that now with js and not sure what kind of performance hit it would take using the cfm tag if say there were 100 images to do. thanks for reply tho! >Hi Dave > >This was presented at CFCamp in Melbourne yesterday to demonstrate the power >of cfimage, and looked very impressive. > >The speaker, Adam Lehman, spoke pretty highly of it. Nothing you can't do >yourself with cfimage, but it's all bundled up and ready to go. > >On Nov 23, 2007 2:04 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293706 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: image effects
Hi Dave This was presented at CFCamp in Melbourne yesterday to demonstrate the power of cfimage, and looked very impressive. The speaker, Adam Lehman, spoke pretty highly of it. Nothing you can't do yourself with cfimage, but it's all bundled up and ready to go. On Nov 23, 2007 2:04 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://foundeo.com/image-effects/ > > anyone using this yet? > > Opinions on if it's worth it? > > It doesn't show all the examples. > > ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293703 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
image effects
http://foundeo.com/image-effects/ anyone using this yet? Opinions on if it's worth it? It doesn't show all the examples. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4