Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Gerald Guido

+1 for What Billy said.

The only time you would really need a VM is to mirror your production
server. If you are hosting on Windows, 95% of the time you can run a close
enough approximation on your local Windows machine to where it would not
matter.  Linux is another ball of wax. I have a full on CF 9
dev environment on Centos 5.6 that has a 10 gig HD footprint and is happy
with a gig of ram. It is a tad bit sluggish but on a SSD that would be a
non issue. Of course YMMV

+1 for WebsiteSpark. My only qualm with their offerings is that the
servers are the "web" versions, and will not mirror a "standard"
environment. LTIL that is.

HTH
G!

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Billy Cravens  wrote:

>
> If your machine is a Windows machine, should have no problem running IIS,
> and if it's Win7, should be able to set IIS like they have it.
>
> If a Mac, you can run Apache, but personally, I prefer just spinning up
> Tomcat and running via WARs - easier to stand up and tear down entire CF
> instances, in my opinion, so the admin isn't' cluttered with settings
> unrelated to the app I'm interested in at the moment.
>
> VMs run fine on 8GB - I'd allocate 1 or 2 GB, and you shouldn't have many
> problems. Things might run a bit slow, but that's fine while developing.
> However, VM is really only needed if you have some settings like .htaccess
> or web.config settings; probably only the case if your setup with CT is a
> VPS.
>
> OS licensing: Good idea to mirror what CT has, but that probably doesn't
> matter. However if Windows Server is needed, you can download a trial
> version if that meets your need. If you need a long-term license, an MS
> TechNet subscription would work (pretty sure for dev purposes doesn't
> violate the licensing there) for cheap. MS also had a program called
> WebsiteSpark, where based on your needs and qualifications, they give away
> licenses of Windows Server, SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc.
>
>
> Billy Cravens
> bdcrav...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Smith wrote:
>
> >
> > hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
> > other things, and now i am posting again.
> >
> > good to see you all.
> >
> > SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
> > crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can
> go
> > apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.
> >
> > would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could
> swing
> > it to maintain equality between the dev and live.
> >
> > laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?
> >
> > want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
> > than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.
> >
> > thanks all!
> >
> > chedder
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Billy Cravens

If your machine is a Windows machine, should have no problem running IIS, and 
if it's Win7, should be able to set IIS like they have it. 

If a Mac, you can run Apache, but personally, I prefer just spinning up Tomcat 
and running via WARs - easier to stand up and tear down entire CF instances, in 
my opinion, so the admin isn't' cluttered with settings unrelated to the app 
I'm interested in at the moment.

VMs run fine on 8GB - I'd allocate 1 or 2 GB, and you shouldn't have many 
problems. Things might run a bit slow, but that's fine while developing. 
However, VM is really only needed if you have some settings like .htaccess or 
web.config settings; probably only the case if your setup with CT is a VPS. 

OS licensing: Good idea to mirror what CT has, but that probably doesn't 
matter. However if Windows Server is needed, you can download a trial version 
if that meets your need. If you need a long-term license, an MS TechNet 
subscription would work (pretty sure for dev purposes doesn't violate the 
licensing there) for cheap. MS also had a program called WebsiteSpark, where 
based on your needs and qualifications, they give away licenses of Windows 
Server, SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc.


Billy Cravens
bdcrav...@gmail.com



On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Smith wrote:

> 
> hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
> other things, and now i am posting again.
> 
> good to see you all.
> 
> SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
> crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
> apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.
> 
> would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
> it to maintain equality between the dev and live.
> 
> laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?
> 
> want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
> than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.
> 
> thanks all!
> 
> chedder
> 
> 
> 

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Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Russ Michaels

you don;t need a VM, you can run CF and a web server on your normal
desktop no problem.
I run windows 7 64bit, 8gb RAM, quad core cpu and use it as a desktop
and a dev server

if you don't want the hassle of running a dev server then signup for
the free cfdeveloper hosting at www.cfmldeveloper.com

Russ

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>
> IS there a question here?
>
> Yes.  thank you.
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
>
>>
>> IS there a question here? Are you looking for a place to get the software?
>> Not sure what you are asking here Matt. :)
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>> Mark Kruger - CFG
>> CF Webtools
>> www.cfwebtools.com
>> www.coldfusionmuse.com
>> O: 402.408.3733 x105
>> E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
>> Skype: markakruger
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:34 AM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment
>>
>>
>> hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
>> other things, and now i am posting again.
>>
>> good to see you all.
>>
>> SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
>> crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
>> apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.
>>
>> would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
>> it to maintain equality between the dev and live.
>>
>> laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?
>>
>> want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
>> than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.
>>
>> thanks all!
>>
>> chedder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Matthew Smith

IS there a question here?

Yes.  thank you.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> IS there a question here? Are you looking for a place to get the software?
> Not sure what you are asking here Matt. :)
>
> -Mark
>
> Mark Kruger - CFG
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> O: 402.408.3733 x105
> E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
> Skype: markakruger
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:34 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment
>
>
> hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
> other things, and now i am posting again.
>
> good to see you all.
>
> SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
> crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
> apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.
>
> would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
> it to maintain equality between the dev and live.
>
> laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?
>
> want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
> than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.
>
> thanks all!
>
> chedder
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger

IS there a question here? Are you looking for a place to get the software?
Not sure what you are asking here Matt. :)

-Mark

Mark Kruger - CFG
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
O: 402.408.3733 x105
E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
Skype: markakruger


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment


hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
other things, and now i am posting again.

good to see you all.

SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.

would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
it to maintain equality between the dev and live.

laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?

want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.

thanks all!

chedder




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low footprint(disk usage) dev enviroment

2011-11-26 Thread Matthew Smith

hello.  i spent a lot of time posting here way back when, and then did
other things, and now i am posting again.

good to see you all.

SSD install on my laptop, need a vm os/cf install for dev.  site(s) is on
crystal tech, so i guess as close to what they have as possible.  i can go
apache if needed, though i think ct is running iis.

would prefer to not have to license an os if possible, though i could swing
it to maintain equality between the dev and live.

laptop has 8GB, so is a vm even worth it?

want to get a new site up today, so i need to be able to download rather
than wait on disks.  all my stuff is at home.

thanks all!

chedder


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