RE: streaming media comparison
Right, as long as you have a Windows 2000 or 2003 server, it (Windows Media Server) is an included part of the OS. The tools to encode the video are also free, and there are SDKs to make the Server, Player and Encoder do whatever you might need it to do. And these are all free. Bandwidth is your biggest concern. Different video/audio codecs compress the same content in different ways, with different emphasis on different components of the content. For instance, one codec may emphasize voice, while another emphasizes music quality. But this is only on the compression side of things. You may not even need streaming, just a (progressive) download of the content to the embedded player, whether it be WMP, Real, QT, or Flash. Anyway, you can find out more about Windows Media Streaming at http://Microsoft.com/WindowsMedia - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: streaming media comparison Microsoft Media Services = virtually free -Original Message- From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: streaming media comparison We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. I want to use the communication server but my boss needs me to show him the pros and cons for all the choices out there. Can some one point me in the right direction? I've tried the Macromedia site but I couldn't find any comparisons to windows media, real video or quick time. I've searched google but all i can find are comparison between the players and not the streaming aspects of the players. Did that make sense? :-\ Thanks -- Phillip B. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203018 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
Phill B wrote: > We plan on streaming 1-3 min videos of our boats on the water. We > would like to do some thing similar to what cnet has on the top right > of their home page in the CNet Video section Assuming this is "go to cnet.com and click the video tab", then they have chosen SWF video here. There's a distinct difference from other video architectures, because video is finally a first-class citizen in the rest of the page. For whether you'd even need a serverside component for streaming, try Chris Hock's overview of the options: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flash/articles/flv_download.html jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
I'll get in touch with him tomorrow and see what he says. Maybe I can use him for hosting the video. On 4/14/05, Cutter (CF-Talk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SurferNetwork has been in the media broadcast business since 1999. They > deal heavily in multiple streaming options (WM, Real, etc.) I had a > conversation about FlashComm with him several months ago, and it was > something he was already researching for another client. He can > definitely give you some metrics info. I personally use WM9 for the many > streams we have (seacrets.com/irieradio.com), which we encode here and > SurferNetwork broadcasts from their vast datacenters. > > Cutter > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202879 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
We plan on streaming 1-3 min videos of our boats on the water. We would like to do some thing similar to what cnet has on the top right of their home page in the CNet Video section On 4/14/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Phill B wrote: > > We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. > > What do you want to stream? > > Jochem > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202878 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
Phill B wrote: > We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. What do you want to stream? Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202876 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
SurferNetwork has been in the media broadcast business since 1999. They deal heavily in multiple streaming options (WM, Real, etc.) I had a conversation about FlashComm with him several months ago, and it was something he was already researching for another client. He can definitely give you some metrics info. I personally use WM9 for the many streams we have (seacrets.com/irieradio.com), which we encode here and SurferNetwork broadcasts from their vast datacenters. Cutter Phill B wrote: > For now we are going to outsource to a company like Mirror image or > Vital Stream. That way we can determine the what kind of impact to > expect on our in house servers. Plus the only investment is a monthly > hosting fee. > > I guess he doesn't use Communication server? i couldn't tel exactly > what his company uses for streaming. > > On 4/14/05, Cutter (CF-Talk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Contact Bill Grywalski at SurferNetwork 973-691-7420 to ask about the >>pros and cons of using various media streaming options (he may be quick >>to tell you how cost prohibitive he believes the licensing can be for >>FlashComm, but his opinion may have changed...). >> >>Cutter >> > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202875 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
For now we are going to outsource to a company like Mirror image or Vital Stream. That way we can determine the what kind of impact to expect on our in house servers. Plus the only investment is a monthly hosting fee. I guess he doesn't use Communication server? i couldn't tel exactly what his company uses for streaming. On 4/14/05, Cutter (CF-Talk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Contact Bill Grywalski at SurferNetwork 973-691-7420 to ask about the > pros and cons of using various media streaming options (he may be quick > to tell you how cost prohibitive he believes the licensing can be for > FlashComm, but his opinion may have changed...). > > Cutter > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202872 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: streaming media comparison
Contact Bill Grywalski at SurferNetwork 973-691-7420 to ask about the pros and cons of using various media streaming options (he may be quick to tell you how cost prohibitive he believes the licensing can be for FlashComm, but his opinion may have changed...). Cutter Phill B wrote: > We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. I want to > use the communication server but my boss needs me to show him the pros > and cons for all the choices out there. Can some one point me in the > right direction? > > I've tried the Macromedia site but I couldn't find any comparisons to > windows media, real video or quick time. I've searched google but all > i can find are comparison between the players and not the streaming > aspects of the players. Did that make sense? :-\ > > Thanks > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202867 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: streaming media comparison
Microsoft Media Services = virtually free -Original Message- From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: streaming media comparison We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. I want to use the communication server but my boss needs me to show him the pros and cons for all the choices out there. Can some one point me in the right direction? I've tried the Macromedia site but I couldn't find any comparisons to windows media, real video or quick time. I've searched google but all i can find are comparison between the players and not the streaming aspects of the players. Did that make sense? :-\ Thanks -- Phillip B. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202865 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: streaming media comparison
You may have to research the individual codecs used - WMV9, etc. Doing that will give you the raw data regarding image quality, data compression, etc. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include > -Original Message- > From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:22 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: streaming media comparison > > We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. I want to > use the communication server but my boss needs me to show him the pros > and cons for all the choices out there. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202861 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
streaming media comparison
We are going to start streaming video from one of our sites. I want to use the communication server but my boss needs me to show him the pros and cons for all the choices out there. Can some one point me in the right direction? I've tried the Macromedia site but I couldn't find any comparisons to windows media, real video or quick time. I've searched google but all i can find are comparison between the players and not the streaming aspects of the players. Did that make sense? :-\ Thanks -- Phillip B. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:202858 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
