Re: sunone mx

2004-03-05 Thread Paul Hastings
 I've worked with CFMX 6.1 running on SunONE, so it can be done. But if
 SunONE were a flavor, it'd be poo flavor, I suspect.

from my first taste i'd said it was very fresh wild buffalo flop ;-)

 If you're running the SunONE app server, the only way I know of to get it
to
 coexist nicely with MX is to install MX onto a SunONE app server instance,
 rather than using the server configuration install of MX. Otherwise, MX
 will interdict all requests for servlets from the SunONE web server.

any clues where i can fidn that sort of info?

 I think that stress thing is a bunch of BS, by the way. I don't have any
 statistics to back that up, though.

me too. given everything else being equal, how much does a webserver figure
into a cf only app?

thanks again.
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RE: sunone mx

2004-03-05 Thread Earl, George
Dave Watts said:
 I've worked with CFMX 6.1 running on SunONE, so it can be done. But if
 SunONE were a flavor, it'd be poo flavor, I suspect.

As someone who is being squeezed into moving MX to SunONE in the near future
this isn't giving me a lot of warm fuzzies . . .

George
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RE: sunone mx

2004-03-05 Thread Dave Watts
  If you're running the SunONE app server, the only way I 
  know of to get it to coexist nicely with MX is to install 
  MX onto a SunONE app server instance, rather than using the 
  server configuration install of MX. Otherwise, MX will 
  interdict all requests for servlets from the SunONE web server.
 
 any clues where i can fidn that sort of info?

In the SunONE GUI, there's an option to create a new server. I don't
remember what it's called, but it was fairly easy to find. I couldn't
actually do it, though, since I was running the developers' version of
SunONE, which was a bummer - you can create as many servers as you like with
JRun's developers' version.

When installing CFMX, you'd want to pick the option that lets you create a
WAR or EAR file. I forget which one is the preferred format for SunONE, but
it's documented on the Macromedia site:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/j2ee/cfmxj2ee_s1as_deploy.html

 me too. given everything else being equal, how much does a 
 webserver figure into a cf only app?

Not enough to make any difference, usually.

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RE: sunone mx

2004-03-05 Thread Dave Watts
  Otherwise, MX will interdict all requests for servlets from 
  the SunONE web server.
 
 any clues where i can fidn that sort of info?

As an alternative to setting up CFMX as a J2EE app on SunONE, you might be
able to just run the servlets you want through CFMX, too.

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Re: sunone mx

2004-03-05 Thread Paul Hastings
 When installing CFMX, you'd want to pick the option that lets you create a
 WAR or EAR file. I forget which one is the preferred format for SunONE,
but
 it's documented on the Macromedia site:


http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/j2ee/cfmxj2ee_s1as_deploy.html

that sounds like a winner. thanks dave.
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RE: sunone mx

2004-03-04 Thread Dave Watts
 anybody know how to re-configure sunone 6.0 (sun webserver, 
 formerly iPlanet) so that it stops mx from stealing its 
 servlet? i have a 3rd app that automatically configures 
 itself to use sunone's servlet, no matter what, if it 
 encounters that webserver during installation. after we 
 install mx, mx grabs the sunone's servlet for itself 
 leaving the 3rd app whining in the dark. any ideas?

I don't work with SunONE much, but do you have the SunONE application server
installed also, or just the web server? If you're just using the web server,
what servlet are you talking about?

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Re: sunone mx

2004-03-04 Thread Paul Hastings
dave, thanks for the response--sunone doesn't appear to be the cf flavor of
the cf month. i got it working fine with just the web/app server  mx (even
though i was told mx 6.1 wouldn't work with sunone). it didn't seem that
hard.

 I don't work with SunONE much, but do you have the SunONE application
server
 installed also, or just the web server? If you're just using the web
server,
 what servlet are you talking about?

it appears both the web  app server are installed, no idea which servlet.
what should i ask about? i specifically asked  was told that this puppy
didn't contain any servlets. teh reason they insist on using it, is that its
supposed to be so much better under stress than IIS. frankly i can't say if
thats true or not, but i think having mx  the other app go fast is probably
more important. any opinions?

the 3rd app is a bear to config, taking on average 10 stress-filled installs
to get going (not kidding, some days it appears that someone coughing in the
next room breaks the install). i normally pass it thru mx enterprise (once
we figured out how to do that) which reduced the installation process to me
sipping coffee  drumming my fingers while it installs.
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RE: sunone mx

2004-03-04 Thread Dave Watts
 dave, thanks for the response--sunone doesn't appear to be 
 the cf flavor of the cf month. i got it working fine with 
 just the web/app server  mx (even though i was told mx 6.1 
 wouldn't work with sunone). it didn't seem that hard.

I've worked with CFMX 6.1 running on SunONE, so it can be done. But if
SunONE were a flavor, it'd be poo flavor, I suspect.

 it appears both the web  app server are installed, no idea 
 which servlet. what should i ask about? i specifically asked 
  was told that this puppy didn't contain any servlets. teh 
 reason they insist on using it, is that its supposed to be 
 so much better under stress than IIS. frankly i can't say if
 thats true or not, but i think having mx  the other app go 
 fast is probably more important. any opinions?

If you're running the SunONE app server, the only way I know of to get it to
coexist nicely with MX is to install MX onto a SunONE app server instance,
rather than using the server configuration install of MX. Otherwise, MX
will interdict all requests for servlets from the SunONE web server.

I think that stress thing is a bunch of BS, by the way. I don't have any
statistics to back that up, though.

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sunone mx

2004-03-03 Thread Paul Hastings
anybody know how to re-configure sunone 6.0 (sun webserver, formerly
iPlanet) so that it stopsmx from stealing its servlet? i have a 3rd app
that automatically configures itself to use sunone's servlet, no matter
what, if it encounters that webserver during installation. after we install
mx, mx grabs the sunone's servlet for itself leaving the 3rd app whining in
the dark. any ideas?

thanks.
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