[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Barnes
Heh, the old MS buys Adobe rumour. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd wager that
the Department Of Justice and the Consent Decree would have a thing or two
to say about that idea, so fear not Peter :0



On 1/30/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I was for a time concerned about Microsoft acquiring Macromedia
 (MM). By then MM had done some smart things with Flash, moved CF to
 the J2EE platform, etc. But Microsoft have, even since Allaire days,
 been if not a competitor then at least MM was an acquisition target.

 All of us old-timers remember the threat year after year (Microsoft
 acquires Allaire/MM etc). I've been with Allaire, MM and now Adobe for
 over 11.5 years now (or close enough to it).

 The Adobe acquisition came out of the blue. And I hated the idea. Am
 still not convinced (entirely). MM made great guns in involving the
 developer and end-user community in the pushing forward of the new
 tech. So far Adobe (with a lot of MM employees) are doing OK. I mean
 look at the LABS site - a great initiative started by MM.

 Microsoft is more jam it down your throat. Take it or leave it.

 Dreamweaver 8 and FlexBuilder 2 are now my primary IDE's. Microsoft's
 effort take up too much space, too much OS control, and too damn slow.

 I have enormous respect for ScottyB, yes he is now employed by the
 enemy, but as far as pushing the conversation to a degree that things
 will actually happen - best job ever.

 Microsoft and Adobe are now true competitors in almost every space bar
 the OS (operating system).

 Both companies employ some of the smartest and dedicated people on the
 planet. However they should remain competitors. My heart would stop
 beating if M$ ever acquired Adobe. If that happens - find a buyer for
 ColdFusion alone (not easy I realise).

 



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[cfaussie] Re: A Big Year For QLDCFUG in 2007! (announce: first meeting Jan 31st)

2007-01-30 Thread cfgroupie

Ooo I'm there.

On Jan 25, 12:22 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 =

 the QldCFUG team would like to welcome everyone back for what is
 likely to be a bumper year. Lots of news and new stuff, new schwag to
 give away, a new venue and a new meeting date.

 So full this coming year will be that we've jumped the gun with an
 extra special CFUG to kick us into 2007 - and to keep us up to speed
 with all the new Adobe Technology in what will be an interesting race
 to the future. Keep ahead of the pack with your local usergroup!

 First up is a special Apollo Presentation on Wednesday 31st
 at QANTM College in downtown Brisbane (see address details below)

 In a nutshell, Apollo is a new desktop environment with webserver
 backend connectivity - the newist forms of RIA's that will have a
 profound effect on the web and applications from now on.

 This special meet will introduce and give an overview of the Adobe
 Apollo Runtime as well as what Apollo means for Coldfusion Developers.
 There will also be a demonstration on how to build a _Desktop_ (!!!)
 Application using Coldfusion and Flex Builder (and Apollo, of course).

 as well as heaps of news and announcements - exciting stuff!

 And in addition to a new venue, we've got a change of dates. Except
 for this special CFUG on the 31st, the CFUG meeting dates have been
 changed to the second Wednesday of every month (the second meeting of
 the year will be on Wednesday 14th Feb) and held at QANTM College.

 So RSVP now so you can go into the lucky prize draw.

 =
 RSVP Details: It's real simple: just sign up to the low 
 traffichttp://groups.google.com/group/qldcfuglist and in addition to being
 in the in crowd, you'll go into the lucky draw for the great prizes when
 you reply to the email.

 Meeting Details:  6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 31st January 2007
 If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry

 QANTM Auditorium
 QANTM House
 Level 9, 138 Albert St
 Brisbane City
  (Opposite the Coffee Club)

 Find it on 
 WHEREIS:http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;724321224...

 Find it on Google 
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[cfaussie] Re: A Big Year For QLDCFUG in 2007! (reminder: first meeting Jan 31st)

2007-01-30 Thread Barry Beattie

is there any point on a reminder? or has Jeremy already done that for me?



On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ooo I'm there.




 On Jan 25, 12:22 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  (please forgive the x-posting with the qldcfug.googlegroups of you're
  also a member)
  =
 
  the QldCFUG team would like to welcome everyone back for what is
  likely to be a bumper year. Lots of news and new stuff, new schwag to
  give away, a new venue and a new meeting date.
 
  So full this coming year will be that we've jumped the gun with an
  extra special CFUG to kick us into 2007 - and to keep us up to speed
  with all the new Adobe Technology in what will be an interesting race
  to the future. Keep ahead of the pack with your local usergroup!
 
  First up is a special Apollo Presentation on Wednesday 31st
  at QANTM College in downtown Brisbane (see address details below)
 
  In a nutshell, Apollo is a new desktop environment with webserver
  backend connectivity - the newist forms of RIA's that will have a
  profound effect on the web and applications from now on.
 
  This special meet will introduce and give an overview of the Adobe
  Apollo Runtime as well as what Apollo means for Coldfusion Developers.
  There will also be a demonstration on how to build a _Desktop_ (!!!)
  Application using Coldfusion and Flex Builder (and Apollo, of course).
 
  as well as heaps of news and announcements - exciting stuff!
 
  And in addition to a new venue, we've got a change of dates. Except
  for this special CFUG on the 31st, the CFUG meeting dates have been
  changed to the second Wednesday of every month (the second meeting of
  the year will be on Wednesday 14th Feb) and held at QANTM College.
 
  So RSVP now so you can go into the lucky prize draw.
 
  =
  RSVP Details: It's real simple: just sign up to the low 
  traffichttp://groups.google.com/group/qldcfuglist and in addition to being
  in the in crowd, you'll go into the lucky draw for the great prizes when
  you reply to the email.
 
  Meeting Details:  6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 31st January 2007
  If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry
 
  QANTM Auditorium
  QANTM House
  Level 9, 138 Albert St
  Brisbane City
   (Opposite the Coffee Club)
 
  Find it on 
  WHEREIS:http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;724321224...
 
  Find it on Google 
  Maps:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,...


 


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[cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 Beta

2007-01-30 Thread Dale Fraser
I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using
some of the new image tags.

 

Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected
yet?

 

I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if
it's out and I missed the Beta.

 

Regards

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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Mandel

Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the
beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA.

From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give
Scorpio a whirl in the real world.

Mark

On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using
 some of the new image tags.

 Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected
 yet?

 I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if
 it's out and I missed the Beta.

 Regards

 Dale Fraser


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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta

2007-01-30 Thread Dale Fraser

Right,

So don't tell me if your on the Beta then, tell me if people who are/will be
on the beta have been selected.

If someone answers yes, doesn't mean they are on, just that they know it's
been selected or know of someone who is on which of course they wouldn't as
that person couldn't have told them :p

Regards
Dale Fraser

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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta


Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the
beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA.

From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give
Scorpio a whirl in the real world.

Mark

On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and
using
 some of the new image tags.

 Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected
 yet?

 I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of
if
 it's out and I missed the Beta.

 Regards

 Dale Fraser


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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta

2007-01-30 Thread Barry Beattie

geez that sounds like Donald Rumsfeld and his known unknowns stuff...

Or Agent 86: Maxwell Smart...



On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Right,

 So don't tell me if your on the Beta then, tell me if people who are/will be
 on the beta have been selected.

 If someone answers yes, doesn't mean they are on, just that they know it's
 been selected or know of someone who is on which of course they wouldn't as
 that person couldn't have told them :p

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

 -Original Message-
 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Mark Mandel
 Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:58 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta


 Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the
 beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA.

 From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give
 Scorpio a whirl in the real world.

 Mark

 On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and
 using
  some of the new image tags.
 
  Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected
  yet?
 
  I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of
 if
  it's out and I missed the Beta.
 
  Regards
 
  Dale Fraser
 

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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta

2007-01-30 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Tim Buntel recently blogged about where to go to get on the beta. It
is only Alpha at the moment. Ray had special permission to run Scorpio
- I guess Ben Forta could run it to. For the rest of us a big no no.

Scorpio Beta Application is here!
We're finally ready to accept applications from folks interested in
participating in the Scorpio Beta. Please go to
https://prerelease.adobe.com/callout/apply.html?callid={E9F64ADB-DADA-485E-BFFE-60E0D783EBEF}
to apply. You will see a link that says Join Adobe Prerelease Program
Now - follow that and the directions. A word of warning; you will
need to complete a survey that is very design-centric first (the 'your
job' section has options like 'film maker' and 'fashion designer' for
instance). I don't doubt that many of you are fashionable, but few are
likely actual fashion designers. Fear not, following will be the
actual Scorpio survey in which you'll get to discuss your deep love of
CFCs and RDBMSs. We'll notify applicants soon about next steps.

And, no, this does not mean that I'm going to tell you when we're
shipping, or even when the Beta is going to be out... :) Enjoy! Tim

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[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat

2007-01-30 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss

Whats your budget?

Have you heard of LiveCycle?



On 31/01/2007, at 4:13 PM, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Heya!

 I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.?
 That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about
 to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel
 spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they
 can fill out.

 I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons,
 but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a
 coldfusion site to insert data?

 If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to
 do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the
 form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment.

 Jeremy


 

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[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Mandel

I had a play at one stage with using the latest version of iText to
build forms, but its a bit of a pita.

Hows your Java?

Livecyle would be ideal.

Mark

On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Heya!

 I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.?
 That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about
 to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel
 spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they
 can fill out.

 I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons,
 but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a
 coldfusion site to insert data?

 If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to
 do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the
 form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment.

 Jeremy


 



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[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat

2007-01-30 Thread Blair McKenzie
THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld]
1. Things fall apart, but centres hold.
2. Everything moves in curves.
3. You get balls.
4. Big balls tell space to bend.
5. There are no turtles anywhere.
6. ...It's so depressing.

FYI

Blair

On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Heya!

 I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.?
 That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about
 to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel
 spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they
 can fill out.

 I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons,
 but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a
 coldfusion site to insert data?

 If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to
 do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the
 form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment.

 Jeremy


 


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[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat

2007-01-30 Thread Dale Fraser

Ok,

So without the expense of LiveCycle.

Acrobat 8 and Coldfusion 8 will do this, trust me. You will just have to
wait.

Regards
Dale Fraser

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HAHAHA...

thanks guys. I hadn't thought of LiveCycle. I just downloaded and am
having a play with it. That is exactly what I want. Now I just have to
convince the people whom own the wallets

Thanks again

On Jan 31, 3:39 pm, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld]
 1. Things fall apart, but centres hold.
 2. Everything moves in curves.
 3. You get balls.
 4. Big balls tell space to bend.
 5. There are no turtles anywhere.
 6. ...It's so depressing.

 FYI

 Blair

 On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





  Heya!

  I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.?
  That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about
  to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel
  spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they
  can fill out.

  I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons,
  but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a
  coldfusion site to insert data?

  If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to
  do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the
  form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment.

  Jeremy- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -






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[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat

2007-01-30 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Naughty Dale Naughty! Is still alpha even.

On 31/01/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok,

 So without the expense of LiveCycle.

 Acrobat 8 and Coldfusion 8 will do this, trust me. You will just have to
 wait.

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

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 To: cfaussie
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 HAHAHA...

 thanks guys. I hadn't thought of LiveCycle. I just downloaded and am
 having a play with it. That is exactly what I want. Now I just have to
 convince the people whom own the wallets

 Thanks again

 On Jan 31, 3:39 pm, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld]
  1. Things fall apart, but centres hold.
  2. Everything moves in curves.
  3. You get balls.
  4. Big balls tell space to bend.
  5. There are no turtles anywhere.
  6. ...It's so depressing.
 
  FYI
 
  Blair
 
  On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
   Heya!
 
   I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.?
   That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about
   to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel
   spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they
   can fill out.
 
   I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons,
   but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a
   coldfusion site to insert data?
 
   If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to
   do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the
   form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment.
 
   Jeremy- Hide quoted text -
 
  - Show quoted text -






 



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