[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Heh, the old MS buys Adobe rumour. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd wager that the Department Of Justice and the Consent Decree would have a thing or two to say about that idea, so fear not Peter :0 On 1/30/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was for a time concerned about Microsoft acquiring Macromedia (MM). By then MM had done some smart things with Flash, moved CF to the J2EE platform, etc. But Microsoft have, even since Allaire days, been if not a competitor then at least MM was an acquisition target. All of us old-timers remember the threat year after year (Microsoft acquires Allaire/MM etc). I've been with Allaire, MM and now Adobe for over 11.5 years now (or close enough to it). The Adobe acquisition came out of the blue. And I hated the idea. Am still not convinced (entirely). MM made great guns in involving the developer and end-user community in the pushing forward of the new tech. So far Adobe (with a lot of MM employees) are doing OK. I mean look at the LABS site - a great initiative started by MM. Microsoft is more jam it down your throat. Take it or leave it. Dreamweaver 8 and FlexBuilder 2 are now my primary IDE's. Microsoft's effort take up too much space, too much OS control, and too damn slow. I have enormous respect for ScottyB, yes he is now employed by the enemy, but as far as pushing the conversation to a degree that things will actually happen - best job ever. Microsoft and Adobe are now true competitors in almost every space bar the OS (operating system). Both companies employ some of the smartest and dedicated people on the planet. However they should remain competitors. My heart would stop beating if M$ ever acquired Adobe. If that happens - find a buyer for ColdFusion alone (not easy I realise). -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: A Big Year For QLDCFUG in 2007! (announce: first meeting Jan 31st)
Ooo I'm there. On Jan 25, 12:22 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (please forgive the x-posting with the qldcfug.googlegroups of you're also a member) = the QldCFUG team would like to welcome everyone back for what is likely to be a bumper year. Lots of news and new stuff, new schwag to give away, a new venue and a new meeting date. So full this coming year will be that we've jumped the gun with an extra special CFUG to kick us into 2007 - and to keep us up to speed with all the new Adobe Technology in what will be an interesting race to the future. Keep ahead of the pack with your local usergroup! First up is a special Apollo Presentation on Wednesday 31st at QANTM College in downtown Brisbane (see address details below) In a nutshell, Apollo is a new desktop environment with webserver backend connectivity - the newist forms of RIA's that will have a profound effect on the web and applications from now on. This special meet will introduce and give an overview of the Adobe Apollo Runtime as well as what Apollo means for Coldfusion Developers. There will also be a demonstration on how to build a _Desktop_ (!!!) Application using Coldfusion and Flex Builder (and Apollo, of course). as well as heaps of news and announcements - exciting stuff! And in addition to a new venue, we've got a change of dates. Except for this special CFUG on the 31st, the CFUG meeting dates have been changed to the second Wednesday of every month (the second meeting of the year will be on Wednesday 14th Feb) and held at QANTM College. So RSVP now so you can go into the lucky prize draw. = RSVP Details: It's real simple: just sign up to the low traffichttp://groups.google.com/group/qldcfuglist and in addition to being in the in crowd, you'll go into the lucky draw for the great prizes when you reply to the email. Meeting Details: 6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 31st January 2007 If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry QANTM Auditorium QANTM House Level 9, 138 Albert St Brisbane City (Opposite the Coffee Club) Find it on WHEREIS:http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;724321224... Find it on Google Maps:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: A Big Year For QLDCFUG in 2007! (reminder: first meeting Jan 31st)
is there any point on a reminder? or has Jeremy already done that for me? On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooo I'm there. On Jan 25, 12:22 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (please forgive the x-posting with the qldcfug.googlegroups of you're also a member) = the QldCFUG team would like to welcome everyone back for what is likely to be a bumper year. Lots of news and new stuff, new schwag to give away, a new venue and a new meeting date. So full this coming year will be that we've jumped the gun with an extra special CFUG to kick us into 2007 - and to keep us up to speed with all the new Adobe Technology in what will be an interesting race to the future. Keep ahead of the pack with your local usergroup! First up is a special Apollo Presentation on Wednesday 31st at QANTM College in downtown Brisbane (see address details below) In a nutshell, Apollo is a new desktop environment with webserver backend connectivity - the newist forms of RIA's that will have a profound effect on the web and applications from now on. This special meet will introduce and give an overview of the Adobe Apollo Runtime as well as what Apollo means for Coldfusion Developers. There will also be a demonstration on how to build a _Desktop_ (!!!) Application using Coldfusion and Flex Builder (and Apollo, of course). as well as heaps of news and announcements - exciting stuff! And in addition to a new venue, we've got a change of dates. Except for this special CFUG on the 31st, the CFUG meeting dates have been changed to the second Wednesday of every month (the second meeting of the year will be on Wednesday 14th Feb) and held at QANTM College. So RSVP now so you can go into the lucky prize draw. = RSVP Details: It's real simple: just sign up to the low traffichttp://groups.google.com/group/qldcfuglist and in addition to being in the in crowd, you'll go into the lucky draw for the great prizes when you reply to the email. Meeting Details: 6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 31st January 2007 If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry QANTM Auditorium QANTM House Level 9, 138 Albert St Brisbane City (Opposite the Coffee Club) Find it on WHEREIS:http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;724321224... Find it on Google Maps:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 Beta
I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using some of the new image tags. Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected yet? I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if it's out and I missed the Beta. Regards Dale Fraser --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta
Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA. From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give Scorpio a whirl in the real world. Mark On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using some of the new image tags. Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected yet? I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if it's out and I missed the Beta. Regards Dale Fraser -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta
Right, So don't tell me if your on the Beta then, tell me if people who are/will be on the beta have been selected. If someone answers yes, doesn't mean they are on, just that they know it's been selected or know of someone who is on which of course they wouldn't as that person couldn't have told them :p Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:58 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA. From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give Scorpio a whirl in the real world. Mark On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using some of the new image tags. Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected yet? I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if it's out and I missed the Beta. Regards Dale Fraser -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta
geez that sounds like Donald Rumsfeld and his known unknowns stuff... Or Agent 86: Maxwell Smart... On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, So don't tell me if your on the Beta then, tell me if people who are/will be on the beta have been selected. If someone answers yes, doesn't mean they are on, just that they know it's been selected or know of someone who is on which of course they wouldn't as that person couldn't have told them :p Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:58 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta Just to be clear here, there is no way you could say you were on the beta or not, as anyone who is held by a pretty tight NDA. From reading Ray's blog it seems he got special consideration to give Scorpio a whirl in the real world. Mark On 1/31/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed Ray's blog about how his site is now running on Scorpio and using some of the new image tags. Anyone know if the Beta has been released, has anyone here been selected yet? I'm on the list so just not sure if Ray got it early (quite possible) of if it's out and I missed the Beta. Regards Dale Fraser -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta
Tim Buntel recently blogged about where to go to get on the beta. It is only Alpha at the moment. Ray had special permission to run Scorpio - I guess Ben Forta could run it to. For the rest of us a big no no. Scorpio Beta Application is here! We're finally ready to accept applications from folks interested in participating in the Scorpio Beta. Please go to https://prerelease.adobe.com/callout/apply.html?callid={E9F64ADB-DADA-485E-BFFE-60E0D783EBEF} to apply. You will see a link that says Join Adobe Prerelease Program Now - follow that and the directions. A word of warning; you will need to complete a survey that is very design-centric first (the 'your job' section has options like 'film maker' and 'fashion designer' for instance). I don't doubt that many of you are fashionable, but few are likely actual fashion designers. Fear not, following will be the actual Scorpio survey in which you'll get to discuss your deep love of CFCs and RDBMSs. We'll notify applicants soon about next steps. And, no, this does not mean that I'm going to tell you when we're shipping, or even when the Beta is going to be out... :) Enjoy! Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
Whats your budget? Have you heard of LiveCycle? On 31/01/2007, at 4:13 PM, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
I had a play at one stage with using the latest version of iText to build forms, but its a bit of a pita. Hows your Java? Livecyle would be ideal. Mark On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld] 1. Things fall apart, but centres hold. 2. Everything moves in curves. 3. You get balls. 4. Big balls tell space to bend. 5. There are no turtles anywhere. 6. ...It's so depressing. FYI Blair On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
Ok, So without the expense of LiveCycle. Acrobat 8 and Coldfusion 8 will do this, trust me. You will just have to wait. Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 4:54 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Acrobat HAHAHA... thanks guys. I hadn't thought of LiveCycle. I just downloaded and am having a play with it. That is exactly what I want. Now I just have to convince the people whom own the wallets Thanks again On Jan 31, 3:39 pm, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld] 1. Things fall apart, but centres hold. 2. Everything moves in curves. 3. You get balls. 4. Big balls tell space to bend. 5. There are no turtles anywhere. 6. ...It's so depressing. FYI Blair On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
Naughty Dale Naughty! Is still alpha even. On 31/01/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, So without the expense of LiveCycle. Acrobat 8 and Coldfusion 8 will do this, trust me. You will just have to wait. Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 4:54 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Acrobat HAHAHA... thanks guys. I hadn't thought of LiveCycle. I just downloaded and am having a play with it. That is exactly what I want. Now I just have to convince the people whom own the wallets Thanks again On Jan 31, 3:39 pm, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE RULES [Ponder Stibbons' observations of the early days of Roundworld] 1. Things fall apart, but centres hold. 2. Everything moves in curves. 3. You get balls. 4. Big balls tell space to bend. 5. There are no turtles anywhere. 6. ...It's so depressing. FYI Blair On 1/31/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---