[cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101
No, even shared you can cluster instances providing more for your buck. On 6/30/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why yes? The only reason i can see is a service perspective, being able to offer clients their own VS without having to load up racks with equipment. But then what you would be charging a client to do that, you could pick up a decent server for a couple of grand and give them that. You still have all the over heads of software licensing. -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Scott *Sent:* Saturday, 30 June 2007 3:41 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 In hosting I would say yes.. On 6/30/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So really the only benefits would be hardware costs, but you would need to be upgrading things like ram, drive capacityy and cpu to maintain performance, and I guess data center costs for rack space. So is it really worth it? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 3:36 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 An interesting call for Adobe to make, or perhaps it's in the EULA, but I would assume you'd need a license per VM since using VMWare basically allows for several server installs (including OS). Unless using a virtualisation method within a single OS install such as the stuff from SWSoft. Regards Bruce - Bruce Trevarthen, CEO ZeroOne (NZ) Limited --- DDI: +64 4 471 Mobile: +64 21 567967 --- -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 5:29 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 So then from a cf server licensing perspective, can anyone tell me if I could use the same CF license on multiple VMs? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 1:11 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 Hi Steve CPU: VMWare lets you assign GHz per Virtual Server and they won't go over that. So if you have dual 2Ghz CPU's then you safely run 3 Virtual Servers at 1GHz each. You need to keep some core processing capacity available for the host operating system. RAM: Correct, you assign RAM per Virtual Server and to run more Virtual Servers you need more RAM. Since with VMWare Windows is not your base host you don't need to consider STD versus Enterprise. But VMWare does have three versions to choose from with various Virtual Server feature support in each. For example VMotion is only in the Enterprise edition. SOFTWARE: Again you're correct, each VM is just as if it were a physical server in the eye's of software licenses, even Microsoft still expect a Processor license per Virtual Server even though it's only one physical CPU underneath it all. OTHER: Yes you can run VMWare farms and you can have things clustered, the best way to setup VM's is to have consolidated central storage, i.e. a SAN. Then the actual server doing the front-end delivery of your services is not the same hardware housing the virtual machine images, means you can image and move virtual servers from hardware to hardware without shifting the (what could be) 100GB virtual machine image. Enterprise edition VMotion allows you to shift servers from hardware to hardware whilst still in production, I've seen this done and the process dropped 3 packets in the process and no users noticed. Without enterprise edition you can still do cool stuff like move a VM to another server for the sake of performance without a rebuild, but because the VM needs to be offline for imaging you'll have several minutes down time in the process. Cheers Bruce - Bruce Trevarthen, CEO ZeroOne (NZ) Limited --- DDI: +64 4 471 Mobile: +64 21 567967 --- -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 3:02 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Virtual Servers 101 I have posted this in both the water cooler and in cfaussie cause I don't know who's in who :) And it sort of follows on from the whole licensing costs topic and I guess optimizing cf server setups. Couple of questions RE virtual servers CPU
[cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101
VM ware server is free and I find it faster and more stable then Virtual PC. http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 3:34 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 Best option there would be VirtualPC since VMware would be cost prohibitive for that in my opinion. Regards Bruce - Bruce Trevarthen, CEO ZeroOne (NZ) Limited --- DDI: +64 4 471 Mobile: +64 21 567967 --- -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 5:04 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Virtual Servers 101 On 6/29/07, Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you're saying sorry Chris. Why would anyone put Vista or XP on a VMWare server? To do client side testing to see how different OSes/Browser combinations effect an application using WMWrokstation. Saves on having a room of machines to to client side testing. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFLocation stopped working
Does the page have a cfflush on it - that will kill cflocation. On 6/30/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, just to add confusion to what i felt sure was a problem with cflocation, i created a page with nothing on it but a cflocation tag and it worked just fine. Damn. And i thought i had isolated where the problem was. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 6/30/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, because it's every cflocation tag that's stopped working, including the ones that work fine on the production server. But since you mention it, i'll do just such a test page. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- If you are not living on the edge, You are taking up too much space. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFLocation stopped working
If using session vars are you requesting to addtoken? On 30/06/07, AJ Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the page have a cfflush on it - that will kill cflocation. On 6/30/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, just to add confusion to what i felt sure was a problem with cflocation, i created a page with nothing on it but a cflocation tag and it worked just fine. Damn. And i thought i had isolated where the problem was. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 6/30/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, because it's every cflocation tag that's stopped working, including the ones that work fine on the production server. But since you mention it, i'll do just such a test page. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- If you are not living on the edge, You are taking up too much space. -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
