[cfaussie] Re: Web on the Piste update

[Haikal Saadh]

I love the last picture o the banner... the two guys holding on to their 
pool cues while sheepishly looking at the woman who's rebooting her web 
server from her phone.

Grant Straker wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just over 30 days until the conference which is the most fun you can 
> have with your pants on (flying down a mountain on a plank to boot).
>
> The link below is to the latest newsletter on what is happening. The 
> agenda is up and we still have a few adjustments to make  as the last 
> speakers/topics are confirmed. Deal is that there  are a lot of very 
> high quality speakers including from the US; Ray Camden(knows a bit 
> about CF) and Thomas Burleson (This guy is as good as it gets with 
> Flex), the usual suspects from AP including Robin Hilliard, Geoff 
> Bowers, Mark Stanton etc., and a few other foreigners that know what 
> they are talking about. Not to mention a few Kiwi's to add a bit of 
> cream on the cake ;-). For the business minded we also have some 
> excellent business speakers including Rod Dury who has made around 120 
> Million in the last year from selling and creating  a couple of 
> software companies.
>
> On/Off the Piste special events - all I can say if you are musical 
> then bring your instrument along.
>
> We're aiming to get 150 attendees and we are on target for this with 
> us just getting over the ton at the moment.
>
> You'll learn lots, have fun, maybe fit in a bit of board time and meet 
> a heap of cool people.
>
> If you have a funny credit card we don't accept then let me now as we 
> can invoice you.
>
> http://www.webonthepiste.com/mailout.cfm
>
> Any questions let me know.
>
> Grant
>
>
>
>
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance

[mpicker]

Just sorry about the double post.  Having a lot of trouble with my
Google account lately.

Cheers
Mark

On Jul 18, 11:32 am, "Scott Thornton"
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> awesome!
>
> >>> mpicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18/07/2007 11:24 am >>>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Please see below a cfm page we run as a schedule every night to deal
> with undeliverable mails.
>
> What this script does is each night move the undeliverable emails back
> to the spool to try and deliver them (just in case it was network,
> server etc issues that stopped it from being delivered).  Once the
> emails get past a week old and still can't be delivered it moves them
> into a permanently rejected folder and will stop trying to send.  You
> can then delete them.
>
> It will also send you an email letting you know how many emails have
> been sent/moved etc.
>
> I didn't write this script (but did modify it), however I don't know
> where I got it from to create the original author.
>
> Regards,
> Mark Picker
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
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>  name="Undeliverables"
>  filter="*.cfmail">
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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Matthew]

Haikal I think you figured it out! I've messed around with the
 tag (without using the  to initialise!) and think
it will work, however I'll have to wait until the next outage from the
web service source to test properly.

FYI: the  suggestion won't work because the timeout attribute
doesn't control how long to hold the lock for it actually controls how
long each "queued" request should wait to be the next to take the lock
i.e. "timeout after X seconds of waiting for the request in front of
me to finish with the lock" - hope that makes sense.

Thanks everyone for your help!
Cheers

On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's another thought:
>
> If it actually is the cfobject call that's timing out, maybe you could
> save the WSDL file to your server, and have it hit that?
> That way you won't have to worry about it timing out, and you can
> happily use 
>
> Haikal Saadh wrote:
> > So it's the actual cfobject tag that's timing out? Not the subsequent
> > cfinvoke? cfinvoke seems to have a timeout parameter.
>
> > (Excuse my ignorance, never actually used cfobject for a web service call)
>
> > Matthew wrote:
>
> >> Howdy,
>
> >> Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> >> falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> >> service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> >> from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> >> CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> >> CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
> >>  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> >> externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
>
> >> How can I timeout the call?
>
> >> Someone must have ran into this problem!
>
> >> Cheers
> >> Matthew


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[cfaussie] Web on the Piste update

[Grant Straker]

Hi All,

Just over 30 days until the conference which is the most fun you can have
with your pants on (flying down a mountain on a plank to boot).

The link below is to the latest newsletter on what is happening. The agenda
is up and we still have a few adjustments to make  as the last
speakers/topics are confirmed. Deal is that there  are a lot of very high
quality speakers including from the US; Ray Camden(knows a bit about CF) and
Thomas Burleson (This guy is as good as it gets with Flex), the usual
suspects from AP including Robin Hilliard, Geoff Bowers, Mark Stanton etc.,
and a few other foreigners that know what they are talking about. Not to
mention a few Kiwi's to add a bit of cream on the cake ;-). For the business
minded we also have some excellent business speakers including Rod Dury who
has made around 120 Million in the last year from selling and creating  a
couple of software companies.

On/Off the Piste special events - all I can say if you are musical then
bring your instrument along.

We're aiming to get 150 attendees and we are on target for this with us just
getting over the ton at the moment.

You'll learn lots, have fun, maybe fit in a bit of board time and meet a
heap of cool people.

If you have a funny credit card we don't accept then let me now as we can
invoice you.

http://www.webonthepiste.com/mailout.cfm

Any questions let me know.

Grant

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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

[Andrew Scott]

Doh,

That sucks.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273



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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 3:29 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books


Hi Andrew,

Those were the first 2 I went to. A&R was were I went 9 months ago and
thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially
because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale -
whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5
I went to however no CF.

If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know
that I'm blind!

Cheers
Matthew

On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mathew,
>
> There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and
> McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a
few
> years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is
> upstairs and is huge, and A&R is on the corner virtually next door from
> memory and that shop was 100% computer books.
>
> I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to
> head in there this weekend.
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613  8676 4223
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
> -Original Message-
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Behalf
>
> Of Matthew
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books
>
> Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
> Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past
> few days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but
> can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop
> "computer" sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
> - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was
> twice as big!
>
> Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
> realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!
>
> Apologies if this is off-topic.
> Cheers




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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

[Matthew]

Hi Andrew,

Those were the first 2 I went to. A&R was were I went 9 months ago and
thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially
because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale -
whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5
I went to however no CF.

If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know
that I'm blind!

Cheers
Matthew

On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mathew,
>
> There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and
> McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few
> years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is
> upstairs and is huge, and A&R is on the corner virtually next door from
> memory and that shop was 100% computer books.
>
> I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to
> head in there this weekend.
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613  8676 4223
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>
> Of Matthew
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books
>
> Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
> Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past
> few days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but
> can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop
> "computer" sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
> - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was
> twice as big!
>
> Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
> realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!
>
> Apologies if this is off-topic.
> Cheers


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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

[Andrew Scott]

Mathew,

There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and
McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few
years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is
upstairs and is huge, and A&R is on the corner virtually next door from
memory and that shop was 100% computer books.

I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to
head in there this weekend.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273


-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books


Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past
few days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but
can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop
"computer" sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
- 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was
twice as big!

Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!

Apologies if this is off-topic.
Cheers




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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

[Steve Onnis]

If you like I can see if I can source some books for you from the supplier.
Come along to the CFUG tomorrow and we can discuss:)

Steve 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books


Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few
days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but can't
find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop "computer" sections
have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
- 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice
as big!

Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!

Apologies if this is off-topic.
Cheers





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[cfaussie] Coldfusion Books

[Matthew]

Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past
few days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but
can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop
"computer" sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
- 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was
twice as big!

Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!

Apologies if this is off-topic.
Cheers


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[cfaussie] Re: CF Training in Australia

[Mike Kear]

Thanks Andrew.  I knew you were doing training and i felt sure your
company wasn't Dynamic Web Training.

You need to poke Adobe in the ribs to get them to put your name on the
web site as an authorised training centre.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On 7/18/07, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike
>
> The company that I work for, webqem, also does ColdFusion training:
>
> http://www.webqem.com/training/coldfusiontraining/index.cfm
>
> Andrew

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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Haikal Saadh]

Here's another thought:

If it actually is the cfobject call that's timing out, maybe you could 
save the WSDL file to your server, and have it hit that?
That way you won't have to worry about it timing out, and you can 
happily use 


Haikal Saadh wrote:
> So it's the actual cfobject tag that's timing out? Not the subsequent 
> cfinvoke? cfinvoke seems to have a timeout parameter.
>
> (Excuse my ignorance, never actually used cfobject for a web service call)
>
> Matthew wrote:
>   
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
>> falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
>> service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
>> from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
>> CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
>> CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
>>  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
>> externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
>>
>> How can I timeout the call?
>>
>> Someone must have ran into this problem!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> 
>>   
>> 
>
>
> >
>
>   


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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Haikal Saadh]

So it's the actual cfobject tag that's timing out? Not the subsequent 
cfinvoke? cfinvoke seems to have a timeout parameter.

(Excuse my ignorance, never actually used cfobject for a web service call)

Matthew wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
>  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
>
> How can I timeout the call?
>
> Someone must have ran into this problem!
>
> Cheers
> Matthew
>
>
> >
>
>   


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[cfaussie] Re: CF Training in Australia

[Andrew Muller]

Hi Mike

The company that I work for, webqem, also does ColdFusion training:

http://www.webqem.com/training/coldfusiontraining/index.cfm

Andrew

On 18/07/07, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been asked by a client to provide a list of companies who can
> provide approved training in Australia - Sydney preferably.
>
> I called Adobe and they referred me to their web site which names
> Dynamic Web Training Pty Ltd SYDNEY as the only company providing
> authorised training in CF in Australia.
>
> Are there any others?  I feel sure there are.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] CF Training in Australia

[Mike Kear]

I have been asked by a client to provide a list of companies who can
provide approved training in Australia - Sydney preferably.

I called Adobe and they referred me to their web site which names
Dynamic Web Training Pty Ltd SYDNEY as the only company providing
authorised training in CF in Australia.

Are there any others?  I feel sure there are.

-- 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Barry Beattie]

> Throwing daggers in the dark here, but worth a shot.

yeah, this sounds like what's really needed in CF are asynchronous
event handlers for when there's a result to return...

... like in XMLHTTPRequest (Ajax) or Flex/Flash.

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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[David Harris]

could you do this:







it broke!



This should throw on a time out.
EG: if the lock runs for more seconds than in the "timeout" attribute,
it'll thrown an error.

HTH

Matthew wrote:
> Done that already. But there is nothing to catch because it's not
> actually throwing an error because it's carrying on indefinitely and
> hence once we get half a dozen of these it sends the server into a
> loop so no one can access the website.
> I understand that even if the user closes there browser the call to
> the web service is still running which means the website will never
> come back up.
>
> On Jul 18, 12:28 pm, "Mark Mandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe just a try / catch block around the webservice call?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 7/18/07, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Howdy,
> >
> > > Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> > > falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> > > service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> > > from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> > > CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> > > CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
> > >  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> > > externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
> >
> > > How can I timeout the call?
> >
> > > Someone must have ran into this problem!
> >
> > > Cheers
> > > Matthew
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Mark Mandel]

Ooh... interesting.

The only thing I can think of is maybe setting a named lock, with a
timeout around it, and set it to 'readonly', so that multiple threads
come in, but it should time out?

Throwing daggers in the dark here, but worth a shot.

Mark

On 7/18/07, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Done that already. But there is nothing to catch because it's not
> actually throwing an error because it's carrying on indefinitely and
> hence once we get half a dozen of these it sends the server into a
> loop so no one can access the website.
> I understand that even if the user closes there browser the call to
> the web service is still running which means the website will never
> come back up.
>
> On Jul 18, 12:28 pm, "Mark Mandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe just a try / catch block around the webservice call?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 7/18/07, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Howdy,
> >
> > > Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> > > falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> > > service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> > > from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> > > CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> > > CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
> > >  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> > > externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
> >
> > > How can I timeout the call?
> >
> > > Someone must have ran into this problem!
> >
> > > Cheers
> > > Matthew
> >
> > --
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> > W:www.compoundtheory.com
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Matthew]

Done that already. But there is nothing to catch because it's not
actually throwing an error because it's carrying on indefinitely and
hence once we get half a dozen of these it sends the server into a
loop so no one can access the website.
I understand that even if the user closes there browser the call to
the web service is still running which means the website will never
come back up.

On Jul 18, 12:28 pm, "Mark Mandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe just a try / catch block around the webservice call?
>
> Mark
>
> On 7/18/07, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Howdy,
>
> > Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> > falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> > service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> > from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> > CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> > CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
> >  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> > externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
>
> > How can I timeout the call?
>
> > Someone must have ran into this problem!
>
> > Cheers
> > Matthew
>
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[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Mark Mandel]

Maybe just a try / catch block around the webservice call?

Mark

On 7/18/07, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
> falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
> service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
> from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
> CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
> CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
>  tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
> externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).
>
> How can I timeout the call?
>
> Someone must have ran into this problem!
>
> Cheers
> Matthew
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] How do you time out CFOBJECT?

[Matthew]

Howdy,

Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming
falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web
service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call
from CF. I'm using the CreateObject("webservice") function (same as
CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the
CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the
 tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?
externalId=tn_19438&sliceId=2).

How can I timeout the call?

Someone must have ran into this problem!

Cheers
Matthew


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[cfaussie] Reminder: Melbourne CFUG - TOMMORROW!

[Mark Mandel]

All, it's time for the monthly CFUG events.

Location:

NGA.net, Level 2, 17 Raglan St, South Melbourne
Map: http://link.toolbot.com/google.com/73016

When:

19th of July, Meeting starts at 7:00, so get there before hand (doors
open at 6:30).

Agenda:

Hidden Gems in CF8

Prepare to be surprised! In this talk, veteran CFML developer Charlie
Arehart will introduce a few dozen little hidden gems coming up in CF8
(Scorpio). Sure, we've all heard about the big features, but in every
release there are lots of little things, and in CF8 especially, Adobe has
pulled out the stops! Come see if some long-standing problem has been
solved, or learn of some new technique that's become available. You may be
surprised at all the little things you may have missed!

If you are going to attend, please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Only those that RSVP are eligible for the door prizes, so make sure you apply!

See the CFUG Melbourne Calendar at:
http://www.cfcentral.com.au/Events/index.cfm

Or add to your Google Calendar - search for 'CFUG Melbourne'.

As per usual, we'll grab pizza during the evening, so we have
something to scoff down!

Look forward to seeing you all there.

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[cfaussie] CFMAIL Maintenance

[Scott Thornton]

awesome!

>>> mpicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18/07/2007 11:24 am >>>

Hi Scott,

Please see below a cfm page we run as a schedule every night to deal
with undeliverable mails.

What this script does is each night move the undeliverable emails back
to the spool to try and deliver them (just in case it was network,
server etc issues that stopped it from being delivered).  Once the
emails get past a week old and still can't be delivered it moves them
into a permanently rejected folder and will stop trying to send.  You
can then delete them.

It will also send you an email letting you know how many emails have
been sent/moved etc.

I didn't write this script (but did modify it), however I don't know
where I got it from to create the original author.

Regards,
Mark Picker













  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  






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[cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance

[Sarah Barry]

Thanks Mark!

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Picker
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:23 AM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance


Hi Scott,

Please see below a cfm page we run as a schedule every night to deal
with undeliverable mails.

What this script does is each night move the undeliverable emails back
to the spool to try and deliver them (just in case it was network,
server etc issues that stopped it from being delivered).  Once the
emails get past a week old and still can't be delivered it moves them
into a permanently rejected folder and will stop trying to send.  You
can then delete them.

It will also send you an email letting you know how many emails have
been sent/moved etc.

I didn't write this script (but did modify it), however I don't know
where I got it from to create the original author.

Regards,

Mark Picker
Internet Developer - External Business Systems
http://www.wit.tafensw.edu.au/

Regional ICT Unit
TAFE NSW - Western Institute
Direct Line : (02) 6885 7538
Institute Office : (02) 6885 7522
Fax Number : (02) 6885 7581 (updated)












  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  






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[cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance

[Mark Picker]

Hi Scott,

Please see below a cfm page we run as a schedule every night to deal
with undeliverable mails.

What this script does is each night move the undeliverable emails back
to the spool to try and deliver them (just in case it was network,
server etc issues that stopped it from being delivered).  Once the
emails get past a week old and still can't be delivered it moves them
into a permanently rejected folder and will stop trying to send.  You
can then delete them.

It will also send you an email letting you know how many emails have
been sent/moved etc.

I didn't write this script (but did modify it), however I don't know
where I got it from to create the original author.

Regards,

Mark Picker
Internet Developer - External Business Systems
http://www.wit.tafensw.edu.au/

Regional ICT Unit
TAFE NSW - Western Institute
Direct Line : (02) 6885 7538
Institute Office : (02) 6885 7522
Fax Number : (02) 6885 7581 (updated)












  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  






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[cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance

[mpicker]

Hi Scott,

Please see below a cfm page we run as a schedule every night to deal
with undeliverable mails.

What this script does is each night move the undeliverable emails back
to the spool to try and deliver them (just in case it was network,
server etc issues that stopped it from being delivered).  Once the
emails get past a week old and still can't be delivered it moves them
into a permanently rejected folder and will stop trying to send.  You
can then delete them.

It will also send you an email letting you know how many emails have
been sent/moved etc.

I didn't write this script (but did modify it), however I don't know
where I got it from to create the original author.

Regards,
Mark Picker













  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  






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created.



  

  
  
  
 
  

  
   
   
  
  
  

  




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Total Files Rejected: #FilesRejected#

These are the files affected:

#Status#: #FileName# (#filesize# bytes, #DateFormat(LastMod,'mm/dd/
')#)




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[cfaussie] CFMAIL Maintenance

[Scott Thornton]

well, I will delete them and see if sorts out the mail log

>>> "Sarah Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18/07/2007 10:04 am >>>

I think CF has finished with them cos they just stay there until acted
on
But perhaps the mailer needs to keep trying?

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Thornton
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:08 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [cfaussie] CFMAIL Maintenance


Hi,

Last question.

When the mail is placed in the undelivered folder, is coldfusion
finished with them as far as it is concerned? I assuming yes? It doesn't
retry them at some point?

The reason I ask is that I am getting some weird stuff in my mail server
logs like:

"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:04:18",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-7","07/18/07","09:04:34",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:04:49",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:06",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-2","07/18/07","09:05:21",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:36",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:05:51",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-6","07/18/07","09:06:07",,"missing body for message"

but when I check my mail and undelivered folder, all seem to have bodies
inside the messages.

>>> "Sarah Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17/07/2007 4:43 pm >>>

No because coldfusion passes the emailing to smtp and the problems are
smtp problems
The speed that they get put into the undeliver depends on the frequency
the CF server has been set to connect to the smtp server
To rerun them you could scoop them back into the spool folder which is
where cf puts them while waiting for the smtp kick-in

And yes the Better check is to check the contents of the undeliver
folder as a scheduled job

Ciao
s

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 4:39 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance


On 7/17/07, Sarah Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They get put into undeliver when the message cannot get delivered for
> any number of connection problems
> They just sit there - up to you to clean them out and check/trace the
> reason why they fail

so I suppose (and I'm just throwing this out there, I don't do a lot
with CFMAIL), if it has a connectivity problem it could be
logged/database entry so it could be retried a second, third time
and/or details sent to admin to follow up.

or (for CF7) put a directory watcher on the directory for any bad
emails falling into the undeliver  directory?











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[cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance

[Sarah Barry]

I think CF has finished with them cos they just stay there until acted
on
But perhaps the mailer needs to keep trying?

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Thornton
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 9:08 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] CFMAIL Maintenance


Hi,

Last question.

When the mail is placed in the undelivered folder, is coldfusion
finished with them as far as it is concerned? I assuming yes? It doesn't
retry them at some point?

The reason I ask is that I am getting some weird stuff in my mail server
logs like:

"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:04:18",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-7","07/18/07","09:04:34",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:04:49",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:06",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-2","07/18/07","09:05:21",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:36",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:05:51",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-6","07/18/07","09:06:07",,"missing body for message"

but when I check my mail and undelivered folder, all seem to have bodies
inside the messages.

>>> "Sarah Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17/07/2007 4:43 pm >>>

No because coldfusion passes the emailing to smtp and the problems are
smtp problems
The speed that they get put into the undeliver depends on the frequency
the CF server has been set to connect to the smtp server
To rerun them you could scoop them back into the spool folder which is
where cf puts them while waiting for the smtp kick-in

And yes the Better check is to check the contents of the undeliver
folder as a scheduled job

Ciao
s

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 4:39 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance


On 7/17/07, Sarah Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They get put into undeliver when the message cannot get delivered for
> any number of connection problems
> They just sit there - up to you to clean them out and check/trace the
> reason why they fail

so I suppose (and I'm just throwing this out there, I don't do a lot
with CFMAIL), if it has a connectivity problem it could be
logged/database entry so it could be retried a second, third time
and/or details sent to admin to follow up.

or (for CF7) put a directory watcher on the directory for any bad
emails falling into the undeliver  directory?








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[cfaussie] CFMAIL Maintenance

[Scott Thornton]

Hi,

Last question.

When the mail is placed in the undelivered folder, is coldfusion finished with 
them as far as it is concerned? I assuming yes? It doesn't retry them at some 
point?

The reason I ask is that I am getting some weird stuff in my mail server logs 
like:

"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:04:18",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-7","07/18/07","09:04:34",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:04:49",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:06",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-2","07/18/07","09:05:21",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-3","07/18/07","09:05:36",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-0","07/18/07","09:05:51",,"missing body for message"
"Error","scheduler-6","07/18/07","09:06:07",,"missing body for message"

but when I check my mail and undelivered folder, all seem to have bodies inside 
the messages.

>>> "Sarah Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17/07/2007 4:43 pm >>>

No because coldfusion passes the emailing to smtp and the problems are
smtp problems
The speed that they get put into the undeliver depends on the frequency
the CF server has been set to connect to the smtp server
To rerun them you could scoop them back into the spool folder which is
where cf puts them while waiting for the smtp kick-in

And yes the Better check is to check the contents of the undeliver
folder as a scheduled job

Ciao
s

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 4:39 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFMAIL Maintenance


On 7/17/07, Sarah Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They get put into undeliver when the message cannot get delivered for
> any number of connection problems
> They just sit there - up to you to clean them out and check/trace the
> reason why they fail

so I suppose (and I'm just throwing this out there, I don't do a lot
with CFMAIL), if it has a connectivity problem it could be
logged/database entry so it could be retried a second, third time
and/or details sent to admin to follow up.

or (for CF7) put a directory watcher on the directory for any bad
emails falling into the undeliver  directory?






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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Raymond Camden]

It will be 3 books.

On 7/17/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the closed GMC (Gold Media Candidate) is any indication I am thinking
> August. That would be for electronic purchase/download as it would take a
> while to master the DVD's and manuals. Expect another huge hit with Ben
> Forta's (et al) CFWACK - expected to be at least two tomes as the language
> has grown so much over the years.
>
>
>
>
>  >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Peter Tilbrook]

If the closed GMC (Gold Media Candidate) is any indication I am thinking
August. That would be for electronic purchase/download as it would take a
while to master the DVD's and manuals. Expect another huge hit with Ben
Forta's (et al) CFWACK - expected to be at least two tomes as the language
has grown so much over the years.

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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Steve Onnis]

Ok i asked Ben Forta if he new when the release date was and this is his
response...
 
"Yes I do, but can't tell you yet. But, very very soon. ;-)"
 
So there you go.

  _  

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of M@ Bourke
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 8:18 PM
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"The most significant release yet"


On 7/17/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

It can't be too far off but nothing official. Adobe's CF team will release
it when they feel it is ready. This is a major release of ColdFusion and
they don't want to fark it up. Nor do we want them too. 








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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Peter Tilbrook]

Yeah! And perhaps the most highly "optimised" version yet - it really flies
performance wise.

On 17/07/07, M@ Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "The most significant release yet"
>
> On 7/17/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It can't be too far off but nothing official. Adobe's CF team will
> > release it when they feel it is ready. This is a major release of ColdFusion
> > and they don't want to fark it up. Nor do we want them too.
> >
> >
>
> >
>


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President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
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http://www.actcfug.com/

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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[M@ Bourke]

"The most significant release yet"

On 7/17/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It can't be too far off but nothing official. Adobe's CF team will release
> it when they feel it is ready. This is a major release of ColdFusion and
> they don't want to fark it up. Nor do we want them too.
>
>

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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Peter Tilbrook]

It can't be too far off but nothing official. Adobe's CF team will release
it when they feel it is ready. This is a major release of ColdFusion and
they don't want to fark it up. Nor do we want them too.

On 17/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  The second it hits the adobe online store.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
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>
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *AJ Mercer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 July 2007 4:36 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor
>
>
>
> Dale,
>
> Please tell me you are going to buy CF8 the minute it hits the stores
>
> Or have you got a lot of money riding on this??
>
>
>  On 7/17/07, *christophe albrech* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "I've heard this twice now, but from no one I know to be reliable."...
> That means Peter, yeah?
>
> Tof
>
> On 7/17/07, *Dale Fraser* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Can anyone confirm the CF8 release date of next Monday? I've heard this
> twice now, but from no one I know to be reliable.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you are not living on the edge,
> You are taking up too much space.
>
> >
>


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President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
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http://www.coldgen.com/
http://www.actcfug.com/

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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

[Dale Fraser]

The second it hits the adobe online store.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

  http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 

 

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Of AJ Mercer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 4:36 PM
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Dale,

Please tell me you are going to buy CF8 the minute it hits the stores

Or have you got a lot of money riding on this??




On 7/17/07, christophe albrech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"I've heard this twice now, but from no one I know to be reliable."... That
means Peter, yeah?

Tof

On 7/17/07, Dale Fraser < [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
wrote:

Can anyone confirm the CF8 release date of next Monday? I've heard this
twice now, but from no one I know to be reliable.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 








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