[cfaussie] Re: Flex Data Services Express
Is this the same as what's included with CF8, or is it something different? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart (lists account) Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2007 1:58 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Flex Data Services Express Dale, I'd be curious where you looked. :-) If you do a google search for "livecycle data services" (or even using "live cycle"), the first result is the Adobe page for LCDS: http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/ The "getting started" tab there has among its contents a link to a FAQ with a section about the Express edition (http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/#livecycle_dsexpress) which seems to answer the questions you ask: Does the per-CPU pricing for LiveCycle Data Services ES pertain to "per CPU as in server" or "per CPU as in processor"? Per CPU as in processor. CPU is defined as a central processing unit in a hardware device, including devices accessed by multiple users through a network (a server). A dual-core CPU is considered a single CPU for licensing purposes. It goes on to explain that there are no other limitations (including connection, data throughput, users, etc). It's really just a licensing limitation--and then only for production. No CPU limits at all in development. Now, I don't mean the above to sound snide (in that you said you'd looked on the Adobe site). I'm really curious: I'm betting you got to that page, since it's so apparent in Google. I wonder if the challenge may have been that "getting started" tab, and I wonder if it's a challenge we should all consider in using them in our own code. More on that in the next email. /charlie _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:38 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Flex Data Services Express I'm confused. I think they changed the name of this to Live Cycle Data Services, right? I know that it comes with CF8, is that Express edition if you don't enter the key. I can't find info on it on Adobe site, what the limitations are etc. Feature Matrix. I think it's limited to a single processor, what happens if the processor is Quad core, does it work, does it use a single core. Anyone know anything, or the link to the correct Adobe website where I can find out more about the express edition? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: tabbed interfaces (was RE: Flex Data Services Express)
Charlie, You hit it on the head. Found that page, did a Ctrl F (find) Express, nothing. Didn't check that tab, actually saw it, but didn't think Getting Started had anything to do with Express. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart (lists account) Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2007 2:29 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] tabbed interfaces (was RE: Flex Data Services Express) Following up my last note, about a possible challenge Dale may have had in seeing info in the tabbed interface of the LiveCycle page (http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/). I'm just guessing if that was the issue. Maybe it was not, but I've wondered if some people may not always think to click such tabs. CF 8 makes them so easy, but I wonder if they may take some getting used to among folks just not used to seeing them (within the content of a page, I mean). Just curious. Anyone have thoughts? I'll note, in case anyone wonders, For instance, also, if you search (on google, for instance) for text that appears within such tabs, Google does find it. If you do a view source of the page, you see that all the content (even in the tabs) is there on one page, so if you then do a find (in the view source view) it does find text even within tabs. But if one uses the browser find feature while looking on a page not viewing the tab content, it will of course not be found. Since the search engine brought you to the page saying the content is there, I just wonder if this will cause some confusion for some. Something to think about. /charlie _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:38 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Flex Data Services Express I'm confused. I think they changed the name of this to Live Cycle Data Services, right? I know that it comes with CF8, is that Express edition if you don't enter the key. I can't find info on it on Adobe site, what the limitations are etc. Feature Matrix. I think it's limited to a single processor, what happens if the processor is Quad core, does it work, does it use a single core. Anyone know anything, or the link to the correct Adobe website where I can find out more about the express edition? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly not working
At a first guess I would say you are using cfinclude between a start end cfoutput tag. ie: Do that appears to override any cfoutputonly directive. In fact it is one thing that annoys me about fusebox and the first thing I cnage when using a new version is to comment ou the cfoutput tags surrounding the cfinclude tag. Cheers, Simon On 18/08/07, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm having some issues with cfsetting, hoping someone can enlighten me. > I have the following in onRequestStart > >name="onRequestStart" > output="false" > returntype="void"> > > > > > Then in one of the pages I have the following code > >> > I have the script tag around it all so I can the nice colour coding in > dreamweaver, I'm expecting it not to output the tags, but > it does! Even though they are outside tags. > I've done a search, and there is only one cfsetting tag in the app, > anybody any idea why it is still outputting stuff outside output tags? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > *** http://www.clickfind.com.au > The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services > *** http://brisbane-web-design.pacificfox.com.au blog > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion > from $350 a month > *** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price > > > > -- Cheers Simon Haddon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- > function togglePostcode() { > var liPostcode = document.getElementById( 'li-postcode' ); > var liState = document.getElementById ( 'li-state' ); > > if ( liState.style.display == 'none' || liState.style.display == '' ) { > liState.style.display = 'block'; > liPostcode.style.display = 'none'; > } else { > liState.style.display = 'none'; > liPostcode.style.display = 'block'; > } > } >
[cfaussie] tabbed interfaces (was RE: Flex Data Services Express)
Following up my last note, about a possible challenge Dale may have had in seeing info in the tabbed interface of the LiveCycle page (http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/). I'm just guessing if that was the issue. Maybe it was not, but I've wondered if some people may not always think to click such tabs. CF 8 makes them so easy, but I wonder if they may take some getting used to among folks just not used to seeing them (within the content of a page, I mean). Just curious. Anyone have thoughts? I'll note, in case anyone wonders, For instance, also, if you search (on google, for instance) for text that appears within such tabs, Google does find it. If you do a view source of the page, you see that all the content (even in the tabs) is there on one page, so if you then do a find (in the view source view) it does find text even within tabs. But if one uses the browser find feature while looking on a page not viewing the tab content, it will of course not be found. Since the search engine brought you to the page saying the content is there, I just wonder if this will cause some confusion for some. Something to think about. /charlie _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:38 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Flex Data Services Express I'm confused. I think they changed the name of this to Live Cycle Data Services, right? I know that it comes with CF8, is that Express edition if you don't enter the key. I can't find info on it on Adobe site, what the limitations are etc. Feature Matrix. I think it's limited to a single processor, what happens if the processor is Quad core, does it work, does it use a single core. Anyone know anything, or the link to the correct Adobe website where I can find out more about the express edition? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] RE: Flex Data Services Express
Dale, I'd be curious where you looked. :-) If you do a google search for "livecycle data services" (or even using "live cycle"), the first result is the Adobe page for LCDS: http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/dataservices/ The "getting started" tab there has among its contents a link to a FAQ with a section about the Express edition (http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/#livecycle_dsexpress) which seems to answer the questions you ask: Does the per-CPU pricing for LiveCycle Data Services ES pertain to "per CPU as in server" or "per CPU as in processor"? Per CPU as in processor. CPU is defined as a central processing unit in a hardware device, including devices accessed by multiple users through a network (a server). A dual-core CPU is considered a single CPU for licensing purposes. It goes on to explain that there are no other limitations (including connection, data throughput, users, etc). It's really just a licensing limitation--and then only for production. No CPU limits at all in development. Now, I don't mean the above to sound snide (in that you said you'd looked on the Adobe site). I'm really curious: I'm betting you got to that page, since it's so apparent in Google. I wonder if the challenge may have been that "getting started" tab, and I wonder if it's a challenge we should all consider in using them in our own code. More on that in the next email. /charlie _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:38 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Flex Data Services Express I'm confused. I think they changed the name of this to Live Cycle Data Services, right? I know that it comes with CF8, is that Express edition if you don't enter the key. I can't find info on it on Adobe site, what the limitations are etc. Feature Matrix. I think it's limited to a single processor, what happens if the processor is Quad core, does it work, does it use a single core. Anyone know anything, or the link to the correct Adobe website where I can find out more about the express edition? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Flex Data Services Express
I'm confused. I think they changed the name of this to Live Cycle Data Services, right? I know that it comes with CF8, is that Express edition if you don't enter the key. I can't find info on it on Adobe site, what the limitations are etc. Feature Matrix. I think it's limited to a single processor, what happens if the processor is Quad core, does it work, does it use a single core. Anyone know anything, or the link to the correct Adobe website where I can find out more about the express edition? Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] cfsetting enablecfoutputonly not working
Hello all, I'm having some issues with cfsetting, hoping someone can enlighten me. I have the following in onRequestStart Then in one of the pages I have the following codeI have the script tag around it all so I can the nice colour coding in dreamweaver, I'm expecting it not to output the tags, but it does! Even though they are outside tags. I've done a search, and there is only one cfsetting tag in the app, anybody any idea why it is still outputting stuff outside output tags? Thanks in advance. -- *** http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services *** http://brisbane-web-design.pacificfox.com.au blog *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion from $350 a month *** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- function togglePostcode() { var liPostcode = document.getElementById( 'li-postcode' ); var liState = document.getElementById( 'li-state' ); if ( liState.style.display == 'none' || liState.style.display == '' ) { liState.style.display = 'block'; liPostcode.style.display = 'none'; } else { liState.style.display = 'none'; liPostcode.style.display = 'block'; } }
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO
i knew that... On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :P just kidding though dude :) > > On 8/18/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Scott your too funny... > > > > > > > > On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this > > > thread off :) hehehe. > > > > > > I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE > > > ? then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice > > > other communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means > > > different > > > things to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set > > > in > > > stone yet so a comprimise can surely be had :) > > > > > > Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts > > > CF on the map? > > > > > > > > > On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > > > > Gary its just a name for god sake. > > > > > > > > > > What would you prefer? "CFDAYSPA"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " > > > > > CFDAYSPA > > > > > = > > > > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense > > > > of calm > > > > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating > > > > therapy, which > > > > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM > > > > to ease > > > > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a > > > > single > > > > > entity. Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online > > > > applications, the > > > > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, > > > > essential > > > > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore > > > > vitality. > > > > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head > > > > and mind, > > > > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web > > > > > development and rekindles passion for the web. > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > Hows that for you Gary? > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > Yes it's just a name! However branding is everything. If you are > > > > promoting an event the name is critical. If you brand it as a > > > > "camp" > > > > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you: > > > > > > > > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the > > > > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style > > > > event. > > > > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events. > > > > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is > > > > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you > > > > don't > > > > want to do it. > > > > > > > > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF > > > > conference > > > > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't > > > > you. If you brought a software application that was labeled as > > > > "Great > > > > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you > > > > would an annoyed. Same concept. > > > > > > > > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you > > > > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion > > > > community. > > > > You have to involve the web industry at large, this way you you > > > > will > > > > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics. > > > > > > > > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit > > > > back. > > > > > > > > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest > > > > of > > > > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group > > > > meetings. > > > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf > > > > > Of Gary Barber > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM > > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Mandel wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Gary - what state are you in? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on > > > > a weekend, > > > > > as you normally do. This is so you get maximum attendance, get to > > > > use > > > > > educational facilities in some cases etc. During the working week > > > > may work > > > > > for a roadshow. not a "camp" > > > > > > > > > > I'm in Perth. > > > > > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > > > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > You're being negative Barry :) stop it :) > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit > > > > realistic, > > > > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is > > > > thin so > > > > >>> far > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> >
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO
:P just kidding though dude :) On 8/18/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scott your too funny... > > > > On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this > > thread off :) hehehe. > > > > I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE ? > > then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice other > > communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means different things > > to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set in stone > > yet so a comprimise can surely be had :) > > > > Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts CF > > on the map? > > > > > > On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > > > Gary its just a name for god sake. > > > > > > > > What would you prefer? "CFDAYSPA"? > > > > > > > > > > > > " > > > > CFDAYSPA > > > > = > > > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense of > > > calm > > > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating therapy, > > > which > > > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM to > > > ease > > > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a > > > single > > > > entity. Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online > > > applications, the > > > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, > > > essential > > > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore > > > vitality. > > > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head and > > > mind, > > > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web > > > > development and rekindles passion for the web. > > > > " > > > > > > > > Hows that for you Gary? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > Yes it's just a name! However branding is everything. If you are > > > promoting an event the name is critical. If you brand it as a "camp" > > > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you: > > > > > > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the > > > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style event. > > > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events. > > > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is > > > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you don't > > > > > > want to do it. > > > > > > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF conference > > > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't > > > you. If you brought a software application that was labeled as > > > "Great > > > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you > > > would an annoyed. Same concept. > > > > > > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you > > > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion > > > community. > > > You have to involve the web industry at large, this way you you will > > > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics. > > > > > > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit > > > back. > > > > > > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest of > > > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group > > > meetings. > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf > > > > Of Gary Barber > > > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Mandel wrote > > > > > > > > > > > >> Gary - what state are you in? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on a > > > weekend, > > > > as you normally do. This is so you get maximum attendance, get to > > > use > > > > educational facilities in some cases etc. During the working week > > > may work > > > > for a roadshow. not a "camp" > > > > > > > > I'm in Perth. > > > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > You're being negative Barry :) stop it :) > > > > > > > > > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit realistic, > > > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is thin > > > so > > > >>> far > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is > > > simple: > > > "What do you want to get out of it?" > > > > > > > > > >>> 100% agreement there. > > > >>> > > > >>> It's the same for any community involvement, including Adobe user > > > >>> groups, the kids school's P&C, your local soccer club committee, > > > etc. > > > >>> For example the peopl
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO
Scott your too funny... On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this thread > off :) hehehe. > > I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE ? > then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice other > communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means different things > to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set in stone > yet so a comprimise can surely be had :) > > Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts CF on > the map? > > > On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > > Gary its just a name for god sake. > > > > > > What would you prefer? "CFDAYSPA"? > > > > > > > > > " > > > CFDAYSPA > > > = > > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense of > > calm > > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating therapy, > > which > > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM to > > ease > > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a single > > > entity. Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online applications, > > the > > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, essential > > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore > > vitality. > > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head and > > mind, > > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web > > > development and rekindles passion for the web. > > > " > > > > > > Hows that for you Gary? > > > > > > Steve > > > > > Yes it's just a name! However branding is everything. If you are > > promoting an event the name is critical. If you brand it as a "camp" > > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you: > > > > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the > > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style event. > > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events. > > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is > > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you don't > > want to do it. > > > > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF conference > > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't > > you. If you brought a software application that was labeled as "Great > > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you > > would an annoyed. Same concept. > > > > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you > > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion community. > > You have to involve the web industry at large, this way you you will > > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics. > > > > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit > > back. > > > > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest of > > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group > > meetings. > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > > Of Gary Barber > > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO > > > > > > > > > Mark Mandel wrote > > > > > > > > >> Gary - what state are you in? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on a > > weekend, > > > as you normally do. This is so you get maximum attendance, get to use > > > educational facilities in some cases etc. During the working week may > > work > > > for a roadshow. not a "camp" > > > > > > I'm in Perth. > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > You're being negative Barry :) stop it :) > > > > > > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit realistic, > > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is thin so > > >>> far > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is > > simple: > > "What do you want to get out of it?" > > > > > > >>> 100% agreement there. > > >>> > > >>> It's the same for any community involvement, including Adobe user > > >>> groups, the kids school's P&C, your local soccer club committee, > > etc. > > >>> For example the people putting on user groups are really just > > >>> facilitators to allow a community to have a focus. Smooth the wheels > > > > >>> to keep the doors open and people coming back - people are very > > >>> welcomed to contribute and even drive the agenda. No one owns the > > >>> community, the trick is to "have a go". Life be in it, rah rah. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Anywho, I'd opt for a m
