[cfaussie] Re: Adobe/Apple Screwed the pooch!
SUCCESS!!! http://www.scottpinkston.org/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/29/ColdFusion-8-on-Leopard-with-Apache--an-answer-for-the-rest-of-us I did have to reinstall the server and then follow the above instructions. I personally didn't want to run Apache or anything but this works with 8500. Just in the nick of time. Thanks to all. Jeremy On Oct 30, 7:34 pm, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love the Leopard too. Thanks for the update. I'll give that ago I normally run 8500. But I'm willing to try anything at this point as I don't want to back date my OS. Thanks again Geoff. Jeremy On Oct 30, 4:11 pm, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 10:10 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UPDATE: seen this yet? http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/27/Running-ColdFusio... good luck tell us how you get on... Not to hard if you are prepared to muddle through. Just finished a more succinct set of steps available here:http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/how-to-install-coldfusion-8-on... -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/ PS. Love the Leopard! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Adobe/Apple Screwed the pooch!
I was totally excited to get my copy of Mac OSX. So much so that I woke up the night before it came out 2am and thought...ooo only a few more hours till I get it. How Sad! Nevertheless, I did get it and I did get to install it and everything went really smoothly. Love that about a mac. Shit just works. Except. - Adobe ColdFusion8 tanked! I re-installed it and it still didn't work. So being the resourceful programmer I am I went to the Adobe website where I found a link http://www.adobe.com/support/products/pdfs/leopardsupport.pdf No where in the document did it say that it may have issues with ColdFusion8. So I made the assumption it should have worked. When I reinstalled (again) I found in the log there are issues with the java version. ug. We give microsoft shit about not being compatible with stuff but in this case I believe Apple and Adobe dropped the ball. That said I won't be going back to MS for my preferred OS simply because shit just works (except cf8 hehehe). - Apple WTF happen to stacks...what a waste of programming energy! I was really looking forward to this feature but you can't customize it what so ever. better off turning it off until its cleaned up. IF...and I doubt it; anyone is from Adobe and Apple are reading this. Fix it as soon as possible. Strike while the iron is hot with people jumping to MacOSX rather then WIndblows. Although that said I have had to give up ColdFusion for .NET and I have had to take at least 4 other CF'ers with me...so..I can't say to much. Jeremy. PS if anyone else has had the problem. let me know...and if you got it working let me know too. purty please. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Adobe/Apple Screwed the pooch!
Yeah thought it may be the case. Bottom line though is that until adobe release the newer versions of pretty much everything MAC users are foobah! I use localhost running port 8500 so using jrun I guess I could use in the mean time IF it works. But it doesn't really matter anyway as I will be programming in .NET anyway. Thus going to Vista. bla bla bla bla. Now we play the waiting game...It's forcing me to build stuff in .NET which is a good thing anyway.hehe. Jeremy On Oct 28, 9:10 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UPDATE: seen this yet? http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/27/Running-ColdFusio... good luck tell us how you get on... b On 10/28/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey Jer... this subject is doing the rounds on the user group managers list at the moment - stay tuned for any news that come down the pipleline within Adobe. Additionally, Sean Corfield has a few words to say on this - http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Leopard_Compat... the short of it - you're probably stuck so it may be a case to roll back to 10.4 if you can, at least until the fixes start coming in (hopefully only days for a hotfix, a month or two for a point release) at least your lucky. my poor little PPC Mac only scrapes in spec-wise - and it's only just had it's second birthday... cheers barry.b Screwed the pooch! ? my, what an imaginative and colourful turn of phrase... I can only guess what it means... On 10/28/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was totally excited to get my copy of Mac OSX. So much so that I woke up the night before it came out 2am and thought...ooo only a few more hours till I get it. How Sad! Nevertheless, I did get it and I did get to install it and everything went really smoothly. Love that about a mac. Shit just works. Except. - Adobe ColdFusion8 tanked! I re-installed it and it still didn't work. So being the resourceful programmer I am I went to the Adobe website where I found a link http://www.adobe.com/support/products/pdfs/leopardsupport.pdf No where in the document did it say that it may have issues with ColdFusion8. So I made the assumption it should have worked. When I reinstalled (again) I found in the log there are issues with the java version. ug. We give microsoft shit about not being compatible with stuff but in this case I believe Apple and Adobe dropped the ball. That said I won't be going back to MS for my preferred OS simply because shit just works (except cf8 hehehe). - Apple WTF happen to stacks...what a waste of programming energy! I was really looking forward to this feature but you can't customize it what so ever. better off turning it off until its cleaned up. IF...and I doubt it; anyone is from Adobe and Apple are reading this. Fix it as soon as possible. Strike while the iron is hot with people jumping to MacOSX rather then WIndblows. Although that said I have had to give up ColdFusion for .NET and I have had to take at least 4 other CF'ers with me...so..I can't say to much. Jeremy. PS if anyone else has had the problem. let me know...and if you got it working let me know too. purty please. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Parallels or Bootcamp?
I agree with Kai. The only reason I run windows on my mac is for .NET development and SQL. If it wasn't for that, and the fact that I'm moving on from CF to .NET I wouldn't have it installed in the first place. Nevertheless, Parellels is my choice purely because I use co- herence all the time. out of site out of mind sort of thing. On Oct 9, 10:15 am, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I just don't like Windows to have full control over my beloved Mac hardware and to give it it's own partition, that's basically it - and the reason why I've made the switch anyway. It might not be a perfectly logical justification, but I feel more comfortable having Windows just in it's little self-contained environment on the Mac HD. To be honest, if some of my clients weren't on SQL Server, I probably wouldn't even have Parallels installed... Well - and for playing with CF/.NET integration. I do all my other CF/Flex development directly on the Mac. Cheers Kai Kai, Out of curiosity why don't you like Bootcamp? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 9:40 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Parallels or Bootcamp? Ryan, I don't think there is a def right or wrong here. I personally do not like Bootcamp at all, I just run a Win XP VM in Parallels. There is another religious question to answer - Parallels or Fusion :) Again - some people are saying Fusion has a better performance - for my usage Parallels 3 is fine though, so I stick with it. The important thing to mention anyway is - give the MBP enough RAM, then it should be alright either way. I'm running 4 GB of which I've set aside 1 GB for the Windows VM - and that's fine for CF, IIS and SQL Server for a dev. setup. Maybe give it 1.5 GB... Cheers Kai You should install Bootcamp and then install Parallels to run off the Boot Camp partition. That way you'll get the best of both worlds. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sabir Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 8:20 AM To: 'cfaussie@googlegroups.com' Subject: [cfaussie] Parallels or Bootcamp? Hi all, We want to run a CF Server, IIS, and MS SQL Server 2005 on a Mac Laptop under a virtual environment. Does Parallels have enough grunt to achieve this? Or should I look at Bootcamp.. is Bootcamp stable enough? thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Pricing - Is it a joke?
Actually you can run .NET on linux.. I have seen it done. I have it running on my MAC!!! ooo aaahhh... On Jul 30, 4:03 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inflation? :) CPI Index maybe... i got nothin... One could argue the PDF / Breeze pieces to the conversation could justify a price increment but.. one could argue :D *grin* ASP.NET is free? :P heheheheh (kidding, just kidding). On 7/30/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I was looking at the US prices. CF7 Ent was $5999 CF8 Ent is $7499 Exactly 25% increase. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 3:53 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Pricing - Is it a joke? Milking I noticed that you stated it's a 25% increase in your blog. Infact it is a 50% increase. The previous version is 25% cheaper in cost but the new pricing is 50% more than the previous version. Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 3:49 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Pricing - Is it a joke? Did you say Milking or Killing I'm a bit dyslexic. PS: Don't buy CF out of Australia unless you want to pay through the nose, the US$ is 90cents odd. Standard$1,299 USD $2,105 AUD Enterprise $7,499 USD $12,169 AUD The upgrades are just as bad, don't let Adobe rip off Australians, seriously it would be less expensive to fly to the US and purchase a copy from a store. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 3:35 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 Pricing - Is it a joke? No doubt this will be a heated thread but it has to be said, and I am sure we will all agree that we hope the powers at Adobe are watching. Now that CF8 has hit the Adobe site, we no longer have to wait for a release date, or do we? As many of you have no doubt seen, the pricing of the newly released Coldfusion 8 product is a little bit inflated. As well as that, the price difference between the boxed and download products is ridiculous. $500 difference between the 2 of them. Lets have a look at the pricing Product Price Box Price D/L DIFF == Coldfusion 8 == CF 6.x or MX7 STD UG to CF8 ENT $9,489 $8,629 $860 CF 6.x or MX7 ENT UG to CF8 ENT $6,085 $5,535 $550 CF 6.x or MX7 STD UG to CF8 STD $1,055 $ 955 $100 == Coldfusion 7 == CF 6.x STD UG to CF7 ENT$6,009 $5,465 $544 CF 6.x ENT UG to CF7 ENT$3,129 $2,845 $284 CF 6.x STD UG to CF7 STD$ 679 $ 615 $ 64 For the enterprise licensing there is over a 50% price increase between this release and the previous release and a little less than that for the standard product. Also, whats the deal with the price different between the boxed and download between the upgrade paths? They cant be indicating that depending on the product that the boxes will be different and contain different stuff in them aside from the serial number being different can they? Even if they seriously thought we would swallow that, how is it that the enterprise upgrades are different, by $300! If you are talking about price increases as a result of things like the server monitoring, why not sell them as an addon, much like the graphing components for Flex? I am sure they can lock out functionality much like they do between the standard and enterprise products. Personally I get the feeling that Adobe is just milking this release. Steve -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Hi Andrew, Thanks for the update on the book. I'll add that to my list of must reads. I mean since you taught me CF its only fair I buy one of your books! hahahahaha. And make sure all that money is pouring in for you! And Scott. Not only will I raid your bookshelf but I will raid your fridge too as I know your wife makes yummy food. As for the OT thingo. The reason I personally wrote it here is because I'm a ColdFusion programmer. So developing FLEX coming from a CF background I thought it would be more appropriate. Barry, you articulate much better then I. Are you a teacher or something :-P!! I Also ran into those issues. Jeremy On Apr 29, 3:34 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm.. Last couple of days has been somewhat heated discussions on the list, my bad on a few parts but taking a step back, thinking about what you guys/gals need and want from all of this, i can't but help understand where some of you want to head in terms of direction around this? On one part, all have indicated OT is not good. I agree, I reviewed some of my posts and I think at some stage, this list went back to it's old habits for me where it wasn't so much about CFAUSSIE but socialising with CFAUSSIE. Yet, in the past 6months it's picked up to being on topic. That being said, what's going on in this thread is more FLEX related then CF? So - What is the aim of this thread? What is it you all want from this going forward. Jeremy's indicated he has pain points, Barry's supporting this while others are stating that it was more Jeremy's fault for not scoping or setting expectations correctly (which I do disagree with). Yet, on the flipside it's not Coldfusion related? I simply wonder what this list is about as it would be helpful to adjust my posture for one and others I'm guessing, so that when we do contribute to this list, it's considered on topic and relevant. Is this an Adobe only centric list? (ie FLEX, Apollo, Coldfusion, LiveCycle etc) or is it Coldfusion centric with all pieces relating to Coldfusion? what are those pieces? Lastly, whom are these complaints about FLEX that Jeremy and Barry have indicated are directed at/to? and what resolution is expected or if any? Scott. On 4/29/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to concur with Jeremy on this. I've just wasted most of my saturday trying to do something that should be relatively straight forward in Flex. So far I've got nowhere thanks to - broken examples on the flex livedocs (and the SDK documentation) - lots of people on flexcoders asking questions on similar or related topics and getting no suitable answers - a real lack of worthwhile examples (self contained and working, not just a small code snip out of context) - not enough sample apps with code (Adobe supplied, RIAforge or otherwise) - books written using beta versions and therefore changes since then it's a painful uphill battle and not a good situation, methinks. my 2c b -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Andrew, I didn't go into this decision lightly. In fact it wasn't my ultimate decision at all. I work for a HUGE company in which those decisions are anaylsed to the endth degree. And yes in high-end sight we should have done it in HTML/ColdFusion. We actually discussed it with a Third party i.e. NOT me. So when is a good time to start working with the new tools? The only way to fully learn a language is to get dirty with it. My issue that I have with Adobe is that they DID not fully explain the complexity and learning curve that Flex has. The reason I raised this issue with all of you, is I truly believe that flex IS not ready for the main stream development environment. Its close but its just not ready. When I went to WebDU which I have nicked name FlexDU I spoke to Ted Patrick about the learning curve of Flex and what I could do to help reduce that learning curve and even he acknowledged that there is a steep learning curve with Flex and it is an issue that Adobe has recognized. He said wait for some more books to come out which should help. So perhaps now that Flex is open source we will see alot more tutorials and better resources. Jeremy On Apr 27, 7:32 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a post like this, no wonder people are jumped on:-) Serioulsy, I applaud your atempt but to go into a project without knowing your tools is dangerous. And like every programming language I have come across, learning them have been easy. But the surface is always just that a surface, and when delving deeper it can be harder and CF is no differeent. When you start introducing Coldspring and MG:U or reactor, to name a few it throws in some very big complexity and Flex is no different. On 4/27/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Hi Toby, Thanks for you input. I agree I won't give up Flex as I believe it has potential but I won't recommend it for major/minor applications. I will stick with .NET or ColdFusion. I believe the whole RIA is just still too young. I will say this one more time. 1. We had an external consultancy validate code and methodologies 2. The deadline wasn't missed. (yet). 3. My disappointment was two pronged. a.) Although they explain the concepts behind Flex it really only scratches the surface. b.) The lack of examples. I had a mate of mine warn me who knows flex back to front. Don't do a flex app or your project will fail. It hasn't failed yet but I understand what he means now. I truly hope that making Flex Open source will infact increase all aspects of its programming. But until then I will stick to what I originally stated. I have told everyone in my immediate team that we will not be doing another Flex application until things change. Jeremy. On Apr 28, 12:17 pm, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to weigh in on this too - Jeremy i can understand your difficulties attempting to get your head around flex in so short a time, but there are a couple of points I'd like to make: 1) All companies are guilty of focusing on what the good Dr Hilliard calls the Elevator Pitch - showing the bells and whistles that make things incredibly easy, and not focusing on the long term requirements. But to be totally honest that's no different than allaire/macromedia et al have ever done with CF. Low entry barrier - some things are dead easy to do. That doesn't mean you'll be able to build complex apps in a day. Think about it - we all know it take 2 minutes to use cfquery and cfoutput and write a dynamic page to view data in a db. But none of us assume that means we're going to be able to write enterprise apps integrating with all manner of things and using complex OO frameworks etc in no time. 2) AS3 is pretty easy to learn in and of itself - but that doesn't mean you're going to know the whole API and all the ins and outs in a week. You can knock up simple little example apps in no time at all, but if you're looking at building anything serious, you need to take the time to understand the event model and asynchronous calls among other things. I don't see this at all as a failing of the language OR of adobe. Anyone who leaps into a new technology for a short fixed deadline based on just the elevator pitch is bound to feel pain. 3) Once you've learned the basic differences and gotten past the web based request/response paradigm, you'll find flex magnificent -and very RAD. There is yet to be a language developed that just lets you say I want this and this and this and this and it magically works. I hope you get the chance to give flex another try. When I first had at it, I was in exactly the same boat as you - and I had trouble shifting paradigms in my thinking. But with the advice of people on the lists and reading the books I'm absolutely loving it now - it's a seriously powerful tool and is going to be very important in the not too distant future I think. Don't be discouraged by the fact that it doesn't happen overnight. Toby On 27/04/2007, at 22:38 , cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, I didn't go into this decision lightly. In fact it wasn't my ultimate decision at all. I work for a HUGE company in which those decisions are anaylsed to the endth degree. And yes in high-end sight we should have done it in HTML/ColdFusion. We actually discussed it with a Third party i.e. NOT me. So when is a good time to start working with the new tools? The only way to fully learn a language is to get dirty with it. My issue that I have with Adobe is that they DID not fully explain the complexity and learning curve that Flex has. The reason I raised this issue with all of you, is I truly believe that flex IS not ready for the main stream development environment. Its close but its just not ready. When I went to WebDU which I have nicked name FlexDU I spoke to Ted Patrick about the learning curve of Flex and what I could do to help reduce that learning curve and even he acknowledged that there is a steep learning curve with Flex and it is an issue that Adobe has recognized. He said wait for some more books to come out which should help. So perhaps now that Flex is open source we will see alot more tutorials and better resources. Jeremy On Apr 27, 7:32 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a post like this, no wonder people are jumped on:-) Serioulsy, I applaud your atempt but to go into a project without knowing your tools is dangerous. And like every programming language I have come across, learning them have been easy. But the surface is always just that a surface, and when delving deeper it can be harder and CF is no differeent. When you start introducing
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Hi Angus, Yeah I 'm reading one at the moment written by some of the programmers at Adobe. It's pretty basic good to get a starting point. But Ted Patrick suggested the ActionScript3.0 Cookbook and the one that is Due in April. I have my order in already. Jeremy On Apr 28, 1:51 pm, Angus Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan your best bet to get a good feel for Flex is Total Training for Adobe Flex 2: Rich Internet Applications. It's an example flex project from beginning to end. It doesn't get bogged down in all the class functionality and covers all the important topics, right up to flex data services. It's the resource for the exam IMO. The one I am waiting for at the moment is Programming Flex 2. The sample chapters are well written...http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/progflex.html. Due in April 2007. Others.. Advanced ActionScript 3 with Design Patterns, ActionScript 3.0Cookbook Cheers Angus On 28/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Toby, Thanks for you input. I agree I won't give up Flex as I believe it has potential but I won't recommend it for major/minor applications. I will stick with .NET or ColdFusion. I believe the whole RIA is just still too young. I will say this one more time. 1. We had an external consultancy validate code and methodologies 2. The deadline wasn't missed. (yet). 3. My disappointment was two pronged. a.) Although they explain the concepts behind Flex it really only scratches the surface. b.) The lack of examples. I had a mate of mine warn me who knows flex back to front. Don't do a flex app or your project will fail. It hasn't failed yet but I understand what he means now. I truly hope that making Flex Open source will infact increase all aspects of its programming. But until then I will stick to what I originally stated. I have told everyone in my immediate team that we will not be doing another Flex application until things change. Jeremy. On Apr 28, 12:17 pm, Toby Tremayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to weigh in on this too - Jeremy i can understand your difficulties attempting to get your head around flex in so short a time, but there are a couple of points I'd like to make: 1) All companies are guilty of focusing on what the good Dr Hilliard calls the Elevator Pitch - showing the bells and whistles that make things incredibly easy, and not focusing on the long term requirements. But to be totally honest that's no different than allaire/macromedia et al have ever done with CF. Low entry barrier - some things are dead easy to do. That doesn't mean you'll be able to build complex apps in a day. Think about it - we all know it take 2 minutes to use cfquery and cfoutput and write a dynamic page to view data in a db. But none of us assume that means we're going to be able to write enterprise apps integrating with all manner of things and using complex OO frameworks etc in no time. 2) AS3 is pretty easy to learn in and of itself - but that doesn't mean you're going to know the whole API and all the ins and outs in a week. You can knock up simple little example apps in no time at all, but if you're looking at building anything serious, you need to take the time to understand the event model and asynchronous calls among other things. I don't see this at all as a failing of the language OR of adobe. Anyone who leaps into a new technology for a short fixed deadline based on just the elevator pitch is bound to feel pain. 3) Once you've learned the basic differences and gotten past the web based request/response paradigm, you'll find flex magnificent -and very RAD. There is yet to be a language developed that just lets you say I want this and this and this and this and it magically works. I hope you get the chance to give flex another try. When I first had at it, I was in exactly the same boat as you - and I had trouble shifting paradigms in my thinking. But with the advice of people on the lists and reading the books I'm absolutely loving it now - it's a seriously powerful tool and is going to be very important in the not too distant future I think. Don't be discouraged by the fact that it doesn't happen overnight. Toby On 27/04/2007, at 22:38 , cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, I didn't go into this decision lightly. In fact it wasn't my ultimate decision at all. I work for a HUGE company in which those decisions are anaylsed to the endth degree. And yes in high-end sight we should have done it in HTML/ColdFusion. We actually discussed it with a Third party i.e. NOT me. So when is a good time to start working with the new tools? The only way to fully learn a language is to get dirty with it. My issue that I have with Adobe is that they DID not fully explain the complexity and learning curve
[cfaussie] SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take a few weeks. Without going into a massive post about the project we found a need to try out some Flex. I was Whoa stoked. We started off very small a simple form posting to a database. My background is mainly CF so I tackled Flex like a CF programmer would. It's sad to say that I totally under estimated the complexity of programming Flex. Now guys/gals, this page was the most BASIC page you could imagine. Where I felt Adobe let me down was the fact that all their PR explained how easy it was to pick up the Flex language. What they don't tell you is that you REALLY need to know OO and you REALLY need to have a good framework. The lack of examples in which I personally learn from is so limited that it left me shell shocked. When I learned ColdFusion it was SO much easier. Ben Forta is my friend! And of course this list bailed me out a number of times. Adobe are constantly pushing the fact that 9x% use flash player and video format is taking off. Then how come Adobe doesn't utlise this and create tutorials on how to use their products!? The company I work for is Huge and the amount of time that I wasted trying to achieve the most basic results I could have done 10 times quicker in ColdFusion AND .NET twice over. The sad fact of the matter is I will never recommend Flex to any programmer or company that I deal with again. So I hope that making Flex open-source will help bridge the massive learning curve that developers will encounter. Flex had so much potential and that I personally feel its fallin flat on its vector based face. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Hi Angus, What sort of application was it? A very basic calculation application. i.e. I fill out textbox one, textbox two and textbox three shows the calculated result, then insert into the database. I know about all the lists, I used them as well. What I found their is that most of the people on the list are learning as well so although sometimes the answers/suggestions worked, most of the time they didn't. I'm really interested in what sort of tutorials would cover the gap. Can you be more specific ie topics for learning. I'd be happy to write some myself. Well first and foremost how to lay out an application. I know of Cairngorm or ARF, but I found is that the complexity of them are so full on the time it would take would far out weigh what I had to deal with, that said I had some help with a mixature of the two from someone (whom I can't mention top secret stuff). And I think Angus you nailed it on the head when you said It's also significantly different to CF. So in terms of that perhaps a Guide to move your code from CF to Flex - Validation - Inserting Data into the database - Understanding MVC from a ColdFusion Perspective - What is OO? - Why write is ActionScript Compared to mx:Tags etc. I know heaps of CF'ers whom really want to use Flex but the learning curve is so huge that it scares them off. Hell I even know .NET programmers who would Like to use it but I tell them...No garry no! I'm not giving up on it but I'm definantly not going to recommend it again. Jeremy P.S. And for the jobs that are out their... .NET far out weighs any CF jobs. Unfortuantly. If I'm going to spend time learning another language its going to be that. On Apr 27, 1:53 pm, Angus Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd agree that there is quite a learning curve for Flex. The framework is very comprehensive, lots of classes and it's easy to get lost. It's also object oriented and there are some concepts such as event handling that can do your head in at times. It's also significantly different to CF. Having said that I think Flex is like any new language. You've gotta spend the time learning it. Maybe Adobe PR did oversell it's simplicity. What sort of application was it? Certainly don't start a critical Flex project without going through some training first but a single pager app should be nailed easily. I'm really interested in what sort of tutorials would cover the gap. Can you be more specific ie topics for learning. I'd be happy to write some myself. There are pretty good support materials out there. Flexcoders mailing list namely. Also half a dozen books have been published now on Flex, a bunch of training videos from Lynda and Training from the Source and literally hundreds of custom components, example code, blogs and so on. By framework do you mean Cairngorm or ARF? Frameworks for big projects, Flex event handling for small. Jeremy, don't give up on Flex just yet. There's a touch of early adopter / bleeding edge with Flex but it's bedding down quite nicely. You've only got to look at the cf job ads asking about Flex experience to know where we're heading. Angus On 27/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take a few weeks. Without going into a massive post about the project we found a need to try out some Flex. I was Whoa stoked. We started off very small a simple form posting to a database. My background is mainly CF so I tackled Flex like a CF programmer would. It's sad to say that I totally under estimated the complexity of programming Flex. Now guys/gals, this page was the most BASIC page you could imagine. Where I felt Adobe let me down was the fact that all their PR explained how easy it was to pick up the Flex language. What they don't tell you is that you REALLY need to know OO and you REALLY need to have a good framework. The lack of examples in which I personally learn from is so limited that it left me shell shocked. When I learned ColdFusion it was SO much easier. Ben Forta is my friend! And of course this list bailed me out a number of times. Adobe are constantly pushing the fact that 9x% use flash player and video format is taking off. Then how come Adobe doesn't utlise this and create tutorials on how to use their products!? The company I work for is Huge and the amount of time that I wasted trying to achieve the most basic results I could have done 10 times quicker in ColdFusion AND .NET twice over. The sad fact of the matter is I will never recommend Flex to any programmer or company that I deal with again. So I hope that making Flex open-source will help bridge the massive learning curve that developers will encounter
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
Word! Jeremy On Apr 27, 2:18 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bah :) no such thing is a perfectly executed project in software, we are all humans. Flex is RAD initially but it hurts after you want to get deeper into mucking about with the code base. I blame mix-ins to be honest (decorater pattern) as it's quite confusing for the untrained folks. Secondly, what company is going to say let Jeremy sit on Flex for 6 months to get up to speed on it? I see this quite a lot in the years of doing FLEX, I actually used to get a lot of my work bailing out the Jeremy's so it's not isolated :) Personally if both Adobe or Micosoft can't get the Jeremy''s of this world up to speed in under 6 months with GUI tier development, we failed. We need to work harder.. On 4/27/07, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let me get this straight. You set an expectation of how long it would take to complete a project in software you are not familiar with and now your disappointed because your expectation was not met. Please, spare me... On 27/04/2007, at 2:05 PM, Lucas wrote: cool - send one our way, I am sure that you don't need em anymore... Oh, I have an old Javascript book here that we don't use anymore, wanna swap? On 4/27/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some Flex 3 books i can hand out btw? On 4/27/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree, learning actionscript was like that. adobe/mm just don't do good developer cultivation. On 27/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take a few weeks. Without going into a massive post about the project we found a need to try out some Flex. I was Whoa stoked. We started off very small a simple form posting to a database. My background is mainly CF so I tackled Flex like a CF programmer would. It's sad to say that I totally under estimated the complexity of programming Flex. Now guys/gals, this page was the most BASIC page you could imagine. Where I felt Adobe let me down was the fact that all their PR explained how easy it was to pick up the Flex language. What they don't tell you is that you REALLY need to know OO and you REALLY need to have a good framework. The lack of examples in which I personally learn from is so limited that it left me shell shocked. When I learned ColdFusion it was SO much easier. Ben Forta is my friend! And of course this list bailed me out a number of times. Adobe are constantly pushing the fact that 9x% use flash player and video format is taking off. Then how come Adobe doesn't utlise this and create tutorials on how to use their products!? The company I work for is Huge and the amount of time that I wasted trying to achieve the most basic results I could have done 10 times quicker in ColdFusion AND .NET twice over. The sad fact of the matter is I will never recommend Flex to any programmer or company that I deal with again. So I hope that making Flex open-source will help bridge the massive learning curve that developers will encounter. Flex had so much potential and that I personally feel its fallin flat on its vector based face. Jeremy -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Developer [image: QDC] Personalised Communication Power Level 2, 31 Coventry St. South Melbourne 3205, VIC Australia T: +61 3 9674 7400 F: +61 3 9645 9160 W: http://www.qdc.net.au ((This transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you believe you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender.---)) -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Flex Question:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex Question:
Sorry button got clicked!! Stoopid computer...let me try that script
again...
private function CostCal():void{
var a:int = Number(form1.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var b:int = Number(form2.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var c:int = Number(form3.text.replace(/,/g,''));
//Calculation
var i:int = Number(a*(b+c));
var h:int = Number(365);
var g:int = Number(i/h);
form4.text = NumberFormatter.format(g);
}
So what this is basically doing is adding the fields then displaying
in another field. I have used int/number just to make sure its a
numeric value. It doesn't make a difference if I change that. Also I
got it so it adds but when I try to divide or anything else it freaks!
i.e. no calculation.
IS there anywhere that someone can point me to doing calculations in
actionscript...cause what I have found on the internet is limited. I
might have to bail on flex and go back to javascript and HTML...
Any advise would be good.
Thanks.
Jeremy
On Mar 13, 9:42 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex Question:
Nevermind I got it.
Stoopid CACHE!!!
On Mar 13, 9:49 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry button got clicked!! Stoopid computer...let me try that script
again...
private function CostCal():void{
var a:int = Number(form1.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var b:int = Number(form2.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var c:int = Number(form3.text.replace(/,/g,''));
//Calculation
var i:int = Number(a*(b+c));
var h:int = Number(365);
var g:int = Number(i/h);
form4.text = NumberFormatter.format(g);
}
So what this is basically doing is adding the fields then displaying
in another field. I have used int/number just to make sure its a
numeric value. It doesn't make a difference if I change that. Also I
got it so it adds but when I try to divide or anything else it freaks!
i.e. no calculation.
IS there anywhere that someone can point me to doing calculations in
actionscript...cause what I have found on the internet is limited. I
might have to bail on flex and go back to javascript and HTML...
Any advise would be good.
Thanks.
Jeremy
On Mar 13, 9:42 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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[cfaussie] Flex List
Hey guys, I need a flex list to ask questions. Do we do it here on aussie or is there one specific to flex. if so whats the url. I'm getting dirty with flex and I'm coming up not smellin of roses. jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches
Oh man why did you do that...now i'll have to come out. Alright alright...we use to be old skiing buddies but thats all i'm saying! On Feb 8, 9:51 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I just got out of a session with Bill G this morning here in Seattle, and I did name drop you Watson. He's told me to contact our RD folks as you've clearly got the right stuff ;) hehe (I miss australia already). On 2/7/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold up there Scott! I happen to know that the GUI has been partially ripped off by Linux Flavours. Stuff Microsoft are coming out with insert your favorite linux flavour here its already been in Linux. I should also mention Mac's as well. So hire me for the Redmond RD Team and I'll show them REAL ideas. In fact i'll give you one for free right now! - portable operating system ...damn it! linux already does that! Jeremy. On Feb 2, 10:40 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll admit that with Vista, the constant allow permission thing annoyed me to no end, but the weird part is, up until now that i type it, it really doesn't bother me, only when I pause and think about. Me thinks that those RD Folks in Redmond really did their home work on the mind-melt that this causes... I'm with Bruce, once you get comfortable with it you look back at XP and get ill feelings at the thought of moving back to it heheh. On 2/2/07, Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using vista since December and I feel it makes me more efficient. It has some great features. We have rolled it out on all desktops at ZeroOne, so far so good. A few machines will need graphics cards replaced but mostly it's all sweet. Bruce *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Scott *Sent:* Friday, 2 February 2007 3:47 p.m. *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches Hey Scott, M$ is know for complicating things, the release of Vista is typical and the pricing structure sucks. But it looks like a good product, I am not upgrading to it as it is to damn expensive. Unless Scott Barnes is going to buy me a copy? Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes *Sent:* Friday, 2 February 2007 1:47 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches I should be saying positive stuff right about now right? I've been using Vista for about 2 months now, all I can say is don't knock it until you try it ;) (earned my pay today) Scott Barnes Web Developer Evangelist, Microsoft (Sent using Outlook 2007 on Windows Vista Ultimate) On 2/2/07, *Maximilian Nyman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html On 2/2/07, Adam Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2007/02/vista_upgrade_flowcha rt.pdf -Original Message- From: Haikal Saadh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 5:01 PM Cc: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] [WOT] Vista launches http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?comicID=1530 :D :D :D -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches
Hold up there Scott! I happen to know that the GUI has been partially ripped off by Linux Flavours. Stuff Microsoft are coming out with insert your favorite linux flavour here its already been in Linux. I should also mention Mac's as well. So hire me for the Redmond RD Team and I'll show them REAL ideas. In fact i'll give you one for free right now! - portable operating system ...damn it! linux already does that! Jeremy. On Feb 2, 10:40 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll admit that with Vista, the constant allow permission thing annoyed me to no end, but the weird part is, up until now that i type it, it really doesn't bother me, only when I pause and think about. Me thinks that those RD Folks in Redmond really did their home work on the mind-melt that this causes... I'm with Bruce, once you get comfortable with it you look back at XP and get ill feelings at the thought of moving back to it heheh. On 2/2/07, Bruce Trevarthen (B2 Limited) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using vista since December and I feel it makes me more efficient. It has some great features. We have rolled it out on all desktops at ZeroOne, so far so good. A few machines will need graphics cards replaced but mostly it's all sweet. Bruce *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Scott *Sent:* Friday, 2 February 2007 3:47 p.m. *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches Hey Scott, M$ is know for complicating things, the release of Vista is typical and the pricing structure sucks. But it looks like a good product, I am not upgrading to it as it is to damn expensive. Unless Scott Barnes is going to buy me a copy? Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes *Sent:* Friday, 2 February 2007 1:47 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches I should be saying positive stuff right about now right? I've been using Vista for about 2 months now, all I can say is don't knock it until you try it ;) (earned my pay today) Scott Barnes Web Developer Evangelist, Microsoft (Sent using Outlook 2007 on Windows Vista Ultimate) On 2/2/07, *Maximilian Nyman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html On 2/2/07, Adam Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2007/02/vista_upgrade_flowcha rt.pdf -Original Message- From: Haikal Saadh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 5:01 PM Cc: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] [WOT] Vista launches http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?comicID=1530 :D :D :D -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: A Big Year For QLDCFUG in 2007! (announce: first meeting Jan 31st)
Ooo I'm there. On Jan 25, 12:22 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (please forgive the x-posting with the qldcfug.googlegroups of you're also a member) = the QldCFUG team would like to welcome everyone back for what is likely to be a bumper year. Lots of news and new stuff, new schwag to give away, a new venue and a new meeting date. So full this coming year will be that we've jumped the gun with an extra special CFUG to kick us into 2007 - and to keep us up to speed with all the new Adobe Technology in what will be an interesting race to the future. Keep ahead of the pack with your local usergroup! First up is a special Apollo Presentation on Wednesday 31st at QANTM College in downtown Brisbane (see address details below) In a nutshell, Apollo is a new desktop environment with webserver backend connectivity - the newist forms of RIA's that will have a profound effect on the web and applications from now on. This special meet will introduce and give an overview of the Adobe Apollo Runtime as well as what Apollo means for Coldfusion Developers. There will also be a demonstration on how to build a _Desktop_ (!!!) Application using Coldfusion and Flex Builder (and Apollo, of course). as well as heaps of news and announcements - exciting stuff! And in addition to a new venue, we've got a change of dates. Except for this special CFUG on the 31st, the CFUG meeting dates have been changed to the second Wednesday of every month (the second meeting of the year will be on Wednesday 14th Feb) and held at QANTM College. So RSVP now so you can go into the lucky prize draw. = RSVP Details: It's real simple: just sign up to the low traffichttp://groups.google.com/group/qldcfuglist and in addition to being in the in crowd, you'll go into the lucky draw for the great prizes when you reply to the email. Meeting Details: 6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 31st January 2007 If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry QANTM Auditorium QANTM House Level 9, 138 Albert St Brisbane City (Opposite the Coffee Club) Find it on WHEREIS:http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;724321224... Find it on Google Maps:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Apache 2.2 ColdFusion Windows
Hey Guys, I have installed Apache on my computer because IIS was giving me the s*its. But I haven't been very successful. I Found that CF 7.02 isn't compatible with Apache 2.2. Although I did find this article. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=8001e97 which is for Linux. Has anyone else come across doing this? If so how did you fix it? Bottom line is that it doesn't recognise .cfm extention nor the whole module. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Flash Remoting -Change 7.0.2
Hey Guys, Does anyone know if Flash Remoting has changed in the way that we connect to coldfusion. I had this working correctly on the early version by commenting out the revevant sections in the gateway-config.xml. Now it just comes back with a blank screen. I'm using the basic example that was on the site www.asfusion.com Jeremy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Flash Remoting -Change 7.0.2
Hey Guys, Does anyone know if Flash Remoting has changed in the way that we connect to coldfusion. I had this working correctly on the early version by commenting out the revevant sections in the gateway-config.xml. Now it just comes back with a blank screen. I'm using the basic example that was on the site www.asfusion.com Jeremy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?
OR option (7) I'm still learning ColdFusion but my boss wants me to learn .NET I'll choose option (1) thank you very much. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MySQL and CF
Thanks guys, Yeah I worked that out a few days ago. This question didn't go up for DAYSmust have been a google thang. Thanks anyway. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] MySQL Query Statement Syntax
Hey Guys, I have started a project which require me of using MySQL. I have used it once before but I found a few issues. Not being totally familiar with MySQL I ran into an odd issue when I was posting information to a query. cfquery name=CheckEmail datasource=#application.ads# SELECT JobMailRejected, candidateID FROM tbl_candidate WHERE CandidateID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer value=#CheckCandidate.CandidateID# / /cfquery If i use the cfqueryparam tag it fails everytime. Is this only for MSSQL or am I missing something. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] MySQL and CF
Hi guys, I posted this yesterday but I'm unsure how come it didn't arrive on the list. Nevertheless I'll ask again. In my CFQUERY I am using the CFQUERYPARAM tag cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer value=#CheckCandidate.CandidateID# / Now most of the stuff I work on is in MSSQL. But I've recently takin up a MySQL contract in which I will be required to use a MySQL database. When I use the above code with cfqueryparam in my SQL statement I get ? marks where the value should be. Is CFQUERYPARAM only for MSSQL or am I missing something with MySQL? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FusionDebugger not breaking
Finanly got it workin, I read the article that you pasted in about the breakpoints not firing. The setup was the issue. However another project a page didn't actually fire until I put a break point into the application.cfm odd. but something is better then nothing. Way cool now. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Hahaha. Nicer I meant making it work. Cause right now Its not working at all. What I am scared of is that we have coded our application in such a way that the debugger won't be able to work it out. Its simular to spectra. OLD SCHOOL. We already bought the licence oddly enough the company bought it for us even though we are movin to .NET.go figure. Anyway I will drop them an email and hopefully get an answer this time. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Thats amazing as I haven't been able to achieve even that result. I found that if I ran the debugger or should I say it was running, I called my coldfusion page which had a CFC invoked in it. I got an error along the lines of its to big to show the results. I have never seen an error like this before. Thinking it was my programming issue, I looked all over the place for the bug, then I turned OFF debugging and the error went away. We are calling a CFC within a CFC but still it should be able to handle that I would assume. IS there any tutorials/best practices available that show how to make debugging CFC a bit nicer. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Paving to the way for Coldfusion Express
One can only hope for the survival of CF. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: anyone using cfeclipse 1.3 beta?
Where do you download it. I went there but couldn't find it. Is it the 1.2 download nightly build? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: anyone using cfeclipse 1.3 beta?
oh my god!! I'm so friggin blind... I'm going back to bed. thanks. jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7.0.2 with mySQL 5 - connector required?
I think so, I had a few issues with it not finding the datasource. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] CFReport Builder - Report compilation error. Error at (31, 20: null
Hi Guys, I found an issue with CFReport Builder I did a quick google and found others having the same issue but no luck on how to fix it. Does anyone know? Its a realy basic query that I want to view as a report..Below is the component and calling page if you would like to see the code. I have patched the servers. CALLING PAGE cfinvoke component=report method=ReportQuery returnvariable=myQuery cfreport template=rpt_candidatesbybranch.cfr format=flashpaper query=MyQuery/ COMPONENT cfcomponent cffunction name=ReportQuery returntype=query output=no access=public cfset var MyQuery= !--- rpt_candidatesbybranch.cfr expects the query passed into it to contain the following column names: Field: FirstName DataType: String Field: LastName DataType: String Field: Deleted DataType: Boolean --- cfquery name=MyQuery datasource=AXM_AU_VAW_MASTER_D02_4 SELECTFirstName, LastName, Deleted FROM dbo.tbl_candidate /cfquery cfreturn MyQuery /cffunction /cfcomponent --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Apache IIS running CF
Hi Guys, Bored out of my friggin mind here. Anyway, just attempting to run ColdFusion on Apache and ColdFusion. Can this be done? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Apache IIS running CF
Running Windows XP Professional. I just want to be able to run applications in Apache and IIS on the same development machine. I'm running port 80 so I if I need to change the port for Apache to port 81 then I will. I just want to use the same CF server. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Online Flex Seminars from Adobe
Where are the links? or are they on adobe somewhere. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Online Flex Seminars from Adobe
my bad... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Flash Lite
yup. I got that. Just wanted to know where to buy it. Gettin the run around by Adobe. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
Barry, How did you know that we use Powerbuilder and Lotus notes!! I cracked up when I read that cause thats exactly the path we are going. We(company) will be moving all of that to .NET in the years to come. Sean very interesting point on th RoR that it will be shipping with OSX. Very interesting. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
An Ad i found in seek this morning. This is what I have to deal with everyday at work. A financially secure, ASX listed company who provides IT services to organisations of all sizes across the Asia Pacific region, is seeking an experienced ColdFusion/.Net Developer. Working in a team self-described as a crazy, technical bunch of people, who know their stuff and have a good sense of humour; the ColdFusion/.Net Developer will need to be a positive person who thinks laterally and has excellent problem solving and people skills. While 90% of current development is written in ColdFusion with a SQL Server 2000 backend, it is envisaged that in 6 to 12 months time most applications will have been converted to .Net2. Because of this, candidate's with both ColdFusion and ASP.net skills are encouraged to apply (candidates with both skills are preferred). If you want to work for a company who values their culture and promotes a social environment with employee benefits then apply now or call Joel Richards at Talent2 in our Brisbane office on (07) 3295 7410 quoting reference number: 13569 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
Couldnt' have said it better my self. The Emperor colthes are grey hahahahaha. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
Doods, I brought this up a few lists ago. I'm currently battling to keep CF as well. But its a battle that is going to end with MS being the winner. Firstly; RoR there is one for ColdFusion called CFWheels do a google search. However it only works with Apache and for the most part I couldn't even get running. Secondly; THE only way ColdFusion is going to get more market share (because right now its what it needs) are; 1. Come out with some Kick A** features that will blow MS out of the water 2. Open source the ColdFusion Server thing and sell the tools such as flex builder, DW Sad to say we are moving to .NET because of licences. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
The issue isn't if BlueDragon is cheaper or not. The fact of the matter is the Server licences cost to much. We have are LARGE application that is writtin in CF but will be pushed to .NET because its cheaper to buy studio and distribute our application then it is to buy CF server/s licence and then our cost of the application on top of that. Sorry Adobe/MM/Allaire have it ass backwards. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Bugz they are everywhere!
To be honest I am looking at pretty much everything that I can get my hands on. It can't be linux which is what I would prefer, so anything really. I just need to see what other people have used and if it worked for them. jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: How to extend application.cfc in a subfolder
Mmmm...Interesting. Might have to try this. We have many CFC's which extend many other CFC's But our biggest issue as well (appart from the mapping) was the different environments. We had to do massive find and replaces for each environment. Way bad. I'm gonna try it nevertheless. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFECLIPSE search
Tis cool guys, I worked out the working set, but when i did a search find thingo, it came back with no results. Its just a matter of tweaking it until I get it right. However in the mean time I did manage to instal Jedit and did an entire project in one hit. It also kept backup copies of the files that it changes which is good. Thanks everyone!. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion Tutor - hourly rate
Hey Pete, I live in Brisbane, but you can send me emails with things you are stuck with. I remember when I was first learning it was very hard to get people to explain things to me. I think that was because I was rather thick. BUT, the list is very good for new people starting out. If not email me directly. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFECLIPSE search
FYI I got eclipse to do it as well thanks joel...me so silly. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: How to extend application.cfc in a subfolder
Hi Mike, Yes. I hear you man! I brought this issue up with Macromedia LONG LONG ago. IN fact i brought this up with the man whom programs coldfusion when he was here visiting Brisbane. The short answer is that it can't be done. I put an enhancement into Macromedia/Adobe about a year ago to make the extends portion to allow dynamics i.e. #path_location#, but I'm sure that got sucked into the abyss. Anyway, turns out the only way too do that is via mappings. We are using the extends functionality heavily for business rules and its a pain in the ass. I WOULD BE most willing to hear a better solution but until they fix it CF8 (if they do) it can't be done. Macromedia's response was it has to be the absolute path of the CFC. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFECLIPSE search
Yeah I want the entire site, not just the page. We found something that we have to replace the whole selection. And I don't want to open up every bloody page just to change two lines. It would sh*t me to tears. I installed Jedit but still trying to figure out how to work it. Jeremy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FusionDebug Support
Still no email. But look if charlie reckons I should give it another try I will...BUT don't make me get out my pokin stick and beat ya'all with it! Just ask scott what happen last time he crossed me with a gewd idea.he is now working for the government! mmm...not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FusionDebug Support
No I think I used my work email address. I got the issue resolved so I'll give it ago again. I'll let you know how I go. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFECLIPSE search
Um Chris, mine doesn't have the replace button??? Version: 3.1.1 Build id: M20050929-0840 Am I missing something here... j. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FW: [cfaussie] Re: FusionDebug Released
Just my two cents...I wouldn't pay 2cents for this pile 'o' crap. I sent an email as I was having issues with setting it up, and to date still didn't get a response back. I figured it out in the end, but the support was simply not there. I got it up and running and it only worked with .cfm pages that had code in it when I tried to use it with some more advanced code (i.e. invoking cfc's) its freaked out and didn't do anything. I would assume that it would read that code as well. Think I will wait for Adobe to bring out there one. Jeremy p.s. I want my two cents back now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFECLIPSE search
Damnit. That means I have to install DW again...I just uninstalled it. One of the guys here wrote some code to find and replace so I might use that. ug. J./ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Getting Rid of FTP
Hey crazy CF'ers, I have a question for anyone whom uses FTP. I hate it. We have documents that we transfer from one location to another. The biggest issue with FTP is how slow it is. IS there a way in CF to transfer the documents without using FTP, i.e. binary or something like that. Or am I stuffed here. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
Hey just to add more fuel to the fire. We just had a company meeting last night and they had a guest speaker there from Microsoft, talking about SOLUTIONS ironically. They are coming out with Studio 2005 with some added features which apparently haven't been released yet which from what I understand are using MS Project, MS Word and some new server which will track all your project changes and where it is at that point in the SDLC. And because my company are a Gold Partner with MS I saw my little CF heart broken when I heard my manager say to me I like that, lets look at it! *sigh* Oh and we are ditching Lotus Notes apparentlywhoo hoo!! Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!
OH by the way.. any new mexican that comes from the south has to bring their own water...cause up'here we drink our own urine! Yeee Haaa... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!
We are going to Suncorp stadium...ROCKIN I'm in. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
Guys Guys Guys, Like I said many posts ago. Its not only hosting, trends, and programmers that are the issue. It is the company directors that make the decesions. i.e. I have reason to believe we are sleeping with the enemy...(MS that is) and because we get special treats to work in .NET or convert our CF code over to .NET (god for bid but its only a matter of time), owners of companys go wow that sounds like a deal. Not to mention I have to deal with brain washed .net programming morons coming out of University everyday saying we could do this or that better in .NET. idiots. Jeremy (once a CF programmer with a heart, now i'm a .NET newbie) p.s. Linux Rox windows sucks.thats for chad! HAHAHAHAHA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: more rumours
HAhahahha...M@ dood your so on it! you crack me up man! J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Email Signature
Hey Taco, You need to program outlook not to ditch the logo. Hope you are good at VB. Also be mindful of other users not having HTML turned on in their emails. We had to customise our footers. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] SOT: Frameworks - cfsick
Hey Guys, I'm looking at frameworks in my spare timehahahaha...gezz I'm a nerd. Anyway, I have been looking at a few of them; including (wait for it) .NET well how it sorta does this. I have tried a few and they all roughly do the same thing. I looked at the following... 1. cfwheels 2. MACH-II 3. Fusebox 4. Spring 5. CFDology (this one is mine hehehe) etc. I got most of them working bar cfwheels...that just pissed me off. What are other people out their using. And has it been successful? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Converting comma-delimited lists to quoted value
Hi guys, I'm pullin my hair out here(whats left). I have a list which is coming out of the database MailIndustryList = '#JobPositions#'; i.e. 24,45,67,343 Now I want to put little quotes around each one of those numbers. i.e. '24','45','67','343' Me thinking.no worries cf has quoteddelimted #QuotedValueList(JobPositions, ' )# Don't work...does the QuotedValueList function only work with queries...cause I was sure it worked with lists. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Converting comma-delimited lists to quoted value
rockin man...didn't know that function...now I do.. thanks man...worked! J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Running CF on Apache and IIS
Thanks guys, I use VMWare occasionaly. So I know what you mean there. I hadn't thought of different IP addresses but on an XP machine not sure if thats the case. thanks will look into it. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
Hey, This is just a complaining email. I was given the hint today that we may be converting all our newly created CF application over to .NET. Becausewait for it.Its a strategic strategy for the company. i.e. the company is in love with .net(and I think it sounds cool when they say it) I have been holding off and fighting for this day not to happen. But I think its inevevitiable. So if you don't see me on the list...I have fallen victim to morans not seeing pass the pointy end of their stick. Might go start up daddy day care. J.out --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
The company seems to be in bed with MS. So therefore they will do everything with MS. There is no point introducing another technology. They would rather spend the money and build it in MS. If they want to spend the money then let them. I get paid each month if I program in peanuts. oh wait...no I get paid peanuts...thats right! Charlie do you ever sleep?!! Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Running CF on Apache and IIS
Hi Guys, I know that you can't run both Apache and IIS together at the same time(unless different ports) but I'm running cf multi-server and I want to have the ability to turn off IIS and turn on Apache and visa-versa is there a way you can do this in CF? Have two servers configured but only run one at a time? Or am I too pie in the sky. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flex 2
dood its like 499 bucks...compared to microsofts crap! Unless your joking thenahahahahaha...your funny dood. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT:Flex Release
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[cfaussie] To call or not to Call
Hey everyone,
I have been having a discussion for the last couple of days with a
fellow programmer here. And the way we write functions and call them.
Can you give me the pros and cons for the following;
function initialise(id)
{
if(isDefined(id) EQ false) { return; }
CandidateDataAccess =
createObject('component','CandidateDataAccess');
CandidateInstance =
CandidateDataAccess.Candidate_Get(id);
if ( isDefined('CandidateInstance.CandidateId') )
{
this.CandidateId =
candidateInstance.CandidateId;
this.Firstname = candidateInstance.Firstname;
this.Lastname = candidateInstance.Lastname;
return true;
}
else { return false; }
}
OR
cffunction name=CandidateDataAccess access=remote
returntype=any
cfargument name=id type=numeric
REST OF THE FUNCTION AS PER ABOVE
/cffunction
Jeremy
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[cfaussie] Re: To call or not to Call
CFC or a page. So really either. We are looking at it for both instances. What do you mean no typing over the argument? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: To call or not to Call
Hahahaha. after I sent it I realised what I had said. And the other guy here pointed it out to megot up way to early this morning to watch the soccorOT: AWESOME game! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT :PayPal
Hi Steve, I concur eith Lucas. I to have setup paypal. Rather funny I bought a premade CFC which does it and in the end I ended up righting one from scratch. hehehe. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] inserting carage returns
Hey, I'm having some issues starting this morning. I want to simply put a carage return between two variables. For somereason i'm thick today. cfset crlf = #chr(10)# #chr(13)# cfset newLine = '#GetAllDetails.HomeAddress1# #crlf# #GetAllDetails.HomeAddress2#' what the? J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: inserting carage returns
Well nope it didn't, see its being inserted into a stored procedure. but it needs to have the carriage return before it insertscan't be html either. j. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: inserting carage returns
Nope got itsorry its wasn't showing correctly on the webpage but was working correctly in the databasemy bad...i'm going home. thanks again...!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Dreamweaver not overwritting files
Have you thought about going to eclipse? way better! jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions
Howdy people, I have found a tiny issue with our application. When we close the browser it doesn't release the application. i.e. the session doesn't seem to clear. 1. Is there a way to totally blow away all sessions when the browser closes. prefer not to call another page using javascript if we can get away with it. 2. Does Application.cfc have any abilities to cater for this? 3. Any other ideas. Its becoming serious issue. Below is a little snippet of our Application.cfm pretty standard stuff. cfapplication name=Validator_2_3_DEV sessionmanagement=yes setclientcookies = true sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,1,0,0)# clientmanagement=true cfset cookie.cfid = session.cfid cfset cookie.cftoken = session.cftoken Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Kill them all!!!! --- ALL sessions
Thanks guys, Didn't work, although I think I had tried that once before. Thanks for your help nevertheless. jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Verity spits the dummy and just a few records!
Hi Taco, Yes there are some issues with CFMX7 Verity. I spent endless hours trying to find ways to get it to work correctly. Simple. It doesn't We ended up having to index in parts. I.e. batch of 10 or 20 depending on what your doing. It was a REAL issue and still is. ITs one major issue I believe that Adobe has is that verity is crap! The free version from Apache is very good. Just takes heaps of time to setup. But once you have done it. Its all sorted. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: looking for CF event management software
Build one man! Don't be a Weiner! ooo wait ...do you want to see others to get ideas? Or do you need onemmm...okay I'm a weiner! J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Verity spits the dummy and just a few records!
We simply did a loop over it. Actually we were indexing documents. But you can use the same theory. Also in ColdFusion 7 there is a sleep function which will allow you to sleep the server until a particular process is done. This would depend on how intense the processing is. hth jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Verity spits the dummy and just a few records!
Toby, I too would be interested in setting up lucene. Any code/documents you have let us know. We are seriously going to ditch Verity becuase of all the issues we have had with it Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Verity spits the dummy and just a few records!
cfquery name=rsResume datasource=#application.datasource# SELECTR.resumeIdentity , CASE WHEN R.candidateIdentity IS NULL THEN 0 ELSE R.candidateIdentity END AS candidateIdentity , R.resumeAsText , R.uniqueFileName , R.fileExtension , R.originalFileName , R.dateStamp , S.salutationTitle , P.firstName , P.lastName , CONCAT( COALESCE( S.salutationTitle, ), , P.firstName, , P.lastName ) AS fullName FROMdb_au_com_exclaimit.tbl_resume R LEFT OUTER JOIN db_au_com_exclaimit.tbl_candidate C ON R.candidateIdentity = C.candidateIdentity !--- make sure the resume is active --- ANDR.isCurrent = 1 LEFT OUTER JOIN db_au_com_exclaimit.tbl_person P ON C.personIdentity = P.personIdentity LEFT OUTER JOIN db_au_com_exclaimit.tbl_l_salutation S ON P.salutationIdentity = S.salutationIdentity; /cfquery !--- update database collection --- cftry cfif recordcount GTE 1 cfloop query=rsResume step= from=1 to=x cfindex action=update collection=col_au_com_exclaimit_query_new key=candidateIdentity type=custom title=fullName query=rsResume body=resumeAsText,fullName,originalFileName custom1=uniqueFileName / cfcatch cfset request.Error.doAppendErrorMessage( There was an error updating the collection ) / /cfcatch /cfloop /cfif /cftry OR something like that. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Verity spits the dummy and just a few records!
Woops one more thing get rid of the query=rsResume My bad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Webservices playing with the data
Hi guys,
Not sure how to explain this. So I'll try to make this as simple as
possible for me. I have a web service that is called and we pass a
query to it. Now in that web service query we have descriptions. Now
here is the issue;
If the description has funny characters such as (I think ascii
characters) it will fail the webservice from sending over the data. I
notice this inparticular when you copy and paste from either MS Word or
from the web.
Below is a snapshot of the error. I believe this is an issue with web
services and the way it reads and writes the xml but I'm unsure. Anyone
have an issue like this. I might just add that when I save it to the
database directly it works perfectly
Here is the fault returned when invoking the web service operation:
AxisFault
faultCode:
{http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Server.userException
faultSubcode:
faultString: coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException:
[coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag$DatabaseQueryException : Error
Executing Database Query.][java.sql.SQLException :
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Unclosed quotation mark
before the character string 'SPAN id=Contentinclude1Top Shelf
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faultActor:
faultNode:
faultDetail:
{http://xml.apache.org/axis/}stackTrace:coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException:
[coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag$DatabaseQueryException : Error
Executing Database Query.][java.sql.SQLException :
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][S...
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[cfaussie] Re: Post Long weekend brain fart
Tis cool Guys, I was a dead set tard that day. It was a web service so I have it sending back the entire query. But yes adam I see your code and raise you a uh Huh...that would work. thanks again!! Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
Wow, what a full on thread. Is it my turn yet. I've been programming for 6 years now. And I wouldn't count myself as senior. Although I'm starting to get the grey hair and my seeing is getting worse. [EMAIL PROTECTED] man that was a full on read and I was sucked in like a bad hooker. Bottom line guys. ColdFusion is a kick ass language I love touching it everyday, but three things are slowing it down and I said this at the last CFUG. 1. Marketing 2. Microsoft 3. Cost 1.) Because the lack of Marketing(hopefully to change with Adobe) We still get people going what is coldfusion wasn't that in the movie with Val Kilmer. 2.) Microsoft and the .NET empire. I currently work for a friggin huge company which supply all sorts of IT professionals. THE MOST common language requested is .NET All Univerisity grads comming out all have .NET as there friggin major. Robin if no one is teaching it then no one will be programming it. Pretty simple 3.) The cost. The cost factor is the main issue with our customers. We deal with big corporates but yet they still bitch and moan about how much CF licences cost. Setting up .NET is far cheaper. Doesn't mean its better but its cheaper. *footnote: Companies that are running Windows Servers not linux so don't even debate with me about that. Perhaps we talk to the U.S. Government about recruiter CF cadets like George does. I hear they are bringing back the draft.I just shaved my head so now I look like a drill sargent. YOU will program in ColdFusion, now drop and give me a CFDUMP! I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we do it. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Post Long weekend brain fart
No I'm just cutting down the code so that you can see what I'm getting at. Its coming from a query, I'm just using querysetcell to illustrate that. Obviously not very well.hehehe. I'm looping over a query nonetheless, each time I loop over I want to append the CID. I swear I'm gonna kick myself when I'm done with this. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Session sharing
Hi Scott, We had the same issue here just about a week ago. We found that ColdFusion has issues with sessions, cookies, and pretty much anything related. Two things. Check how you are doing Cookies, and check your session managment, i.e. your timeout of your cflogin(if you are using it) isn't causing you issues. I know that ColdFusion also seems to have issues with sharing the same cfid and cftoken across the browsers. Its almost like it gets confused or corupted. We are in the process right now of converting our Application.cfm to Application.cfc to hopefully counter-act this issue. Although that said you can't help what users do. Just make sure you aren't passing your CFID and CFTOKEN via the URL. Hope that helps a little. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Pausing CFML (Was RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFEXECUTE .bat files)
Hey Guys, There is a Pause Function within ColdFusion you can use to pause the ColdFusion process then loop over that each time until a file is created or what ever you want to do. Tis very cool Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Checking existence of cookies
Hey guys, I would like to test the existence of cookies on a clients browser. In other words our application require cookies and I need to flash up a warning if they don't have cookies enabled. Is there a CF way or do I have to do it Javascripty. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] CFEXECUTE .bat files
Hi guys, My little team has decided to build an installer for our web application. We got it down pat, execpt one little issue with .bat files. We are looping over environments i.e. Test, Train, Production. Each one we need to copy over code to the relevant environment. What we have found is that coldfusion is to fast for the .bat file to run its xcopy commands. Is there a way to wait for the .bat to finish before we go to the next instance of the loop? cfexecute name=c:\copyit.bat timeout=600/cfexecute Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFEXECUTE .bat files
Because we are changing contents of files for each environment i.e. Production, Train, Test. Therefore we need to loop over it each time. I have found other thing which I find odd. In our development environment when I use cfexecute it seems to be trying to execute it from the following path. C:\JRun4\binxcopy c:\2_3 c:\2_4 /e /i /y When in my code I tell it to run from the cmd...what the? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Looping over and creating...
Nevermind, Figured it out... Tis all good..not that anyone is here. echh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF Ticketing System
There are lots out there. We found that building one was just easier. If I remember correctly, I think there was a free one on macromedia's web site. But you would be best to do a google search.. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Webservice wierdness
Also, Becareful with .NET webservices and ColdFusion. We had some serious issues with Complex Data Types which were created in .NET and then we tried to invoke them using ColdFusion. In the end we had to program all the submissions in .NET. That was a serious headache for us. Be warned. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
