[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Steve are you spamming the list again???




On 15/05/2007, at 9:40 AM, Secret wrote:

>
> There is a section below with the title "Atheism and Evolution are
> WRONG."
>
> All those who have sinned deserve to suffer in Hell forever. "Pride"
> is an example of a terrible sin.
>
> 1. Repent (be truly sorry for your sins; beg for God's forgiveness;
> abandon sin; ask Him to help you stop sinning; and repent for His
> sake).
>
> 2. Completely trust in God only; do not trust in yourself.
>
> 3. Love the Lord with all of your heart.
>
> The Son of God (the Lord Jesus Christ) suffered and died on the cross
> to pay for the sins of those who trust in Him. His blood can clean
> away our sins. He was buried for three days, then lived again. There
> is hope of eternal life and happiness for those who trust in God.
>
> Your efforts and works cannot save you. Only God is truly righteous
> and good. Humans are totally corrupt, but thankfully God controls all
> things. Thank the Lord if He has saved you, and if His Spirit has
> given you the ability to trust in Him.
>
> -
>
> Atheism and Evolution are wrong:
>
> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God.
>
> God is the Intelligent Creator of the Universe.
>
> If you refuse to trust in God, it's not my loss.
>
> 1. Energy/matter cannot be created nor destroyed through natural
> methods.
>
> 2. The Universe cannot create itself. If it created itself, then
> anything can create itself; and the Universe can have a "Mind" of its
> own.
>
> 3. Fine-tuning of the Universe.
> 4. Laws of physics do not order themselves. They have no goals.
> 5. No oscillating universe; no multiverse.
> 6. Universe moving towards entropy (or heat death).
> 7. Planets do not form through natural methods.
> 8. Gases scatter/dissipate quickly. Therefore, Jupiter have been
> created.
> 9. Saturn has three rings. They have been set in place.
> 10. A Theory: the Earth is near the center of the Universe. This idea
> supports the Bible.
> 11. The Earth is not millions of years old. Notes: Magnetic field
> decay; Archaeology; History, other "Time limiters." Note: Ancient
> people were as smart as modern men. Evolutionists have no excuse.
>
> 12. Misplaced fossils; Wrong sequence of geological strata/layers;
> Polystrata fossils are enemies of Uniformitarianism and Evolution.
>
> 13. Decay rates are not constant. Note: Even the speed of light is not
> constant. Radiometric methods are unreliable. Example of a flaw: A
> radiometric method showed that primate skull KNM-ER 1470 was 212-230
> million years old. Even evolutionists rejected it.
>
> 14. NATURAL life can only come from life. Abiogenesis (or spontaneous
> generation) is impossible.
> 15. The DNA double-helix, self-repair codes, self-checking system/
> algorithms, structure, DNA language convention, irreducible cell
> complexity, and chromosome count are enemies of evolution.
>
> 16. DNA of humans differ/vary by about 10-12% from each other. 50% of
> human DNA is identical to the DNA of a banana. Humans and apes have no
> common ancestor.
>
> 17. Common sense and science reveal the fact of "Intelligent Design."
> There are cells which are more complex than New York City or modern
> space shuttles.
>
> 18. There is no real vestigial/useless organ. There is no junk DNA.
> Note: Males' nipples "arouse" women.
>
> 19. Mutations are harmful, deadly, and destructive to genetic codes.
> Example: Cancer.
> 20. Natural selection and Sexual selection do not eliminate
> destructive genetic codes.
> 21. The fossil record and the "Cambrian Explosion" are enemies of
> evolution. There were NO "mice-bats" with one wing or two wings each
> having 25% bone structure. There were NO walking fishes.
>
> 22. The Lord gave humans a conscience, morals, and advanced
> intelligence.
> 23. Strong evidence of a Global Flood in the past. This fact supports
> the Bible. Geologic layers were formed quickly and catastrophically.
> Note: Hydro-plate theory.
>
> 24. No historical record gives clues about "evolution."
> 25. Scientists can use false or "biased" data. Examples: Piltdown man
> deception, Lucy mistake, Archaeopteryx mistake.
>
> 26. Evolution is science fiction (a myth). It is similar to the story
> of the Centaurs (horse-men) and Mermaids (fish-women). I don't believe
> in Centaurs and Mermaids.
>
> 27. Philosophers love wisdom. But, only God is truly wise. Atheists
> are not philosophers. They are not free-thinkers.
>
> 28. Science is closely related to knowledge or information. These
> things are useless if there is no God. True scientists trust in the
> Creator of the Universe.
>
> 29. Atheism or evolution does not provide a solid foundation for
> morality. If there is no God, there is no good nor evil.
>
> 30. Evolution is a myth. Even if it is true, there are evolutionists
> who believe in God.
> 31. Every time atheists and evolutionists cannot answer a valid
> question, they say, "It's an Unexplained Mystery." Thus, they have
> blind faith.
>
> 32. Al

[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Adam Chapman

Hi.. I think I can help.. but I have not tested this code






















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To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only
and, Love Him with all of your heart.


There is a section below with the title "Atheism and Evolution are
WRONG."

All those who have sinned deserve to suffer in Hell forever. "Pride"
is an example of a terrible sin.

1. Repent (be truly sorry for your sins; beg for God's forgiveness;
abandon sin; ask Him to help you stop sinning; and repent for His
sake).

2. Completely trust in God only; do not trust in yourself.

3. Love the Lord with all of your heart.

The Son of God (the Lord Jesus Christ) suffered and died on the cross
to pay for the sins of those who trust in Him. His blood can clean
away our sins. He was buried for three days, then lived again. There
is hope of eternal life and happiness for those who trust in God.

Your efforts and works cannot save you. Only God is truly righteous
and good. Humans are totally corrupt, but thankfully God controls all
things. Thank the Lord if He has saved you, and if His Spirit has
given you the ability to trust in Him.

-

Atheism and Evolution are wrong:

An atheist is a person who does not believe in God.

God is the Intelligent Creator of the Universe.

If you refuse to trust in God, it's not my loss.

1. Energy/matter cannot be created nor destroyed through natural
methods.

2. The Universe cannot create itself. If it created itself, then
anything can create itself; and the Universe can have a "Mind" of its
own.

3. Fine-tuning of the Universe.
4. Laws of physics do not order themselves. They have no goals.
5. No oscillating universe; no multiverse.
6. Universe moving towards entropy (or heat death).
7. Planets do not form through natural methods.
8. Gases scatter/dissipate quickly. Therefore, Jupiter have been
created.
9. Saturn has three rings. They have been set in place.
10. A Theory: the Earth is near the center of the Universe. This idea
supports the Bible.
11. The Earth is not millions of years old. Notes: Magnetic field
decay; Archaeology; History, other "Time limiters." Note: Ancient
people were as smart as modern men. Evolutionists have no excuse.

12. Misplaced fossils; Wrong sequence of geological strata/layers;
Polystrata fossils are enemies of Uniformitarianism and Evolution.

13. Decay rates are not constant. Note: Even the speed of light is not
constant. Radiometric methods are unreliable. Example of a flaw: A
radiometric method showed that primate skull KNM-ER 1470 was 212-230
million years old. Even evolutionists rejected it.

14. NATURAL life can only come from life. Abiogenesis (or spontaneous
generation) is impossible.
15. The DNA double-helix, self-repair codes, self-checking system/
algorithms, structure, DNA language convention, irreducible cell
complexity, and chromosome count are enemies of evolution.

16. DNA of humans differ/vary by about 10-12% from each other. 50% of
human DNA is identical to the DNA of a banana. Humans and apes have no
common ancestor.

17. Common sense and science reveal the fact of "Intelligent Design."
There are cells which are more complex than New York City or modern
space shuttles.

18. There is no real vestigial/useless organ. There is no junk DNA.
Note: Males' nipples "arouse" women.

19. Mutations are harmful, deadly, and destructive to genetic codes.
Example: Cancer.
20. Natural selection and Sexual selection do not eliminate
destructive genetic codes.
21. The fossil record and the "Cambrian Explosion" are enemies of
evolution. There were NO "mice-bats" with one wing or two wings each
having 25% bone structure. There were NO walking fishes.

22. The Lord gave humans a conscience, morals, and advanced
intelligence.
23. Strong evidence of a Global Flood in the past. This fact supports
the Bible. Geologic layers were formed quickly and catastrophically.
Note: Hydro-plate theory.

24. No historical record gives clues about "evolution."
25. Scientists can use false or "biased" data. Examples: Piltdown man
deception, Lucy mistake, Archaeopteryx mistake.

26. Evolution is science fiction (a myth). It is similar to the story
of the Centaurs (horse-men) and Mermaids (fish-women). I don't believe
in Centaurs and Mermaids.

27. Philosophers love wisdom. But, only God is truly wise. Atheists
are not philosophers. They are not free-thinkers.

28. Science is closely related to knowledge or information. These
things are useless if there is no God. True scientists trust in the
Creator of the Universe.

29. Atheism or evolution does not provide a solid foundation for
morality. If there is no God, there is no good nor evil.

30. Evolution is a myth. Even if it is true, there are evolutionists
who believe in God.
31. Every time atheists and evolutionists cannot answer a valid
question, they say, "It's an Unexplained Myster

[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Steve Onnis

Why would i send this stuff?

You should all know this by now or your all going to hell!


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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss

been there, done that.
its not all its hyped up to be..


On 15/05/2007, at 12:43 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:

>
> Why would i send this stuff?
>
> You should all know this by now or your all going to hell!
>
>
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Stephen M



On May 15, 12:43 pm, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why would i send this stuff?
>
> You should all know this by now or your all going to hell!

Well, at least us hell-bound demons won't have to put up with "you're"
bad grammar while we are down there.

But why don't you just ask Mr Deity and Lucy, they have first hand
info.

http://www.mrdeity.com


Stephen M


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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread grant
I ran Adam's code from above and got the "Null Pointers are another name for
undefined values" error.

I'd say god was more of a CFC than a Struct - and one without a constructor
at that.

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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Mark Mandel

I just want to say that emails about religion and hell are not
tecnically related to ColdFusion, and should have originally been sent
to the watercooler list.

;oD

Mark

On 5/15/07, grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I ran Adam's code from above and got the "Null Pointers are another name for
> undefined values" error.
>
> I'd say god was more of a CFC than a Struct - and one without a constructor
> at that.

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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-14 Thread Brett Payne-Rhodes

Naa! Just as long as the sorcerer's apprentice didn't post it!  :)

Brett
B)


Mark Mandel wrote:
> I just want to say that emails about religion and hell are not
> tecnically related to ColdFusion, and should have originally been sent
> to the watercooler list.
> 
> ;oD
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 5/15/07, grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I ran Adam's code from above and got the "Null Pointers are another name for
>> undefined values" error.
>>
>> I'd say god was more of a CFC than a Struct - and one without a constructor
>> at that.
> 


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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-15 Thread Haikal Saadh

Is he a singleton? How'd he get created if he doesn't have a factory method?

grant wrote:
> I ran Adam's code from above and got the "Null Pointers are another 
> name for undefined values" error.
>
> I'd say god was more of a CFC than a Struct - and one without a 
> constructor at that.
>
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-15 Thread Barry Beattie

> Is he a singleton? How'd he get created if he doesn't have a factory method?

damn typical. I've been fruitlessly looking for an onServerStart()
method ever since CF7 for just this reason.
I'm obviously not worthy and therefore out of luck. Probably because
I'm a lapsed satanist.

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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-15 Thread M@ Bourke
>1. Energy/matter cannot be created nor destroyed through natural
>methods.
So what you listen to science on some theorys but not other theories with
more evidence?

>2. The Universe cannot create itself. If it created itself, then
>anything can create itself; and the Universe can have a "Mind" of its
>own.
So if a universe was to create it's self anything can create it's self?
how do you know this? what evidence do you have? have you seen a universe
create it's self?
you must have, hence shooting your self in the foot


>3. Fine-tuning of the Universe.
Fine tuning?

>4. Laws of physics do not order themselves. They have no goals.
but if someone created them shouldn't they be created with a goal?

>5. No oscillating universe; no multiverse.
you have evidence of this? Stephen Hawkin recently spoke of the multiverse,
the worlds most respected physicist speak of the multiverse, maybe you can
correct them.

>6. Universe moving towards entropy (or heat death).
you have evidence for this?

>7. Planets do not form through natural methods.
this is false, this has been observed, this is basic gravity 101

>8. Gases scatter/dissipate quickly. Therefore, Jupiter have been
>created.
this is false, how does a gas dissipate in space, basic laws of gravity
explain jupiter.
the only thing that could cause them to dissipate would be gravity, hence
the reason jupiter exists.

>9. Saturn has three rings. They have been set in place.
saturn has a lot more then 3 rings. and how do you define set in place? they
are continually moving, planets are moving through space.

>10. A Theory: the Earth is near the center of the Universe. This idea
>supports the Bible.
this is absoloute false not only this, we are on the edge of the milky way,
4/5's the way out

>11. The Earth is not millions of years old. Notes: Magnetic field
>decay; Archaeology; History, other "Time limiters." Note: Ancient
>people were as smart as modern men. Evolutionists have no excuse.
there isn't an archeologist in the world or a geologist in the world that
would agree with this. don't try and prove science incorrect without
science.

>12. Misplaced fossils; Wrong sequence of geological strata/layers;
>Polystrata fossils are enemies of Uniformitarianism and Evolution.
the event of a fossil forming is so rare that even it alone proves how old
the earth must be.
go dig up the pet cat ya burried in the back yard as a kid and see if you
have a fossil.

>13. Decay rates are not constant. Note: Even the speed of light is not
>constant. Radiometric methods are unreliable. Example of a flaw: A
>radiometric method showed that primate skull KNM-ER 1470 was 212-230
>million years old. Even evolutionists rejected it.
1 bit of research was incorrect so all research ever through out history is
incorrect?

>14. NATURAL life can only come from life. Abiogenesis (or spontaneous
>generation) is impossible.
Life is simply self replicating molecules.


>15. The DNA double-helix, self-repair codes, self-checking system/
>algorithms, structure, DNA language convention, irreducible cell
>complexity, and chromosome count are enemies of evolution.
it self repairs?
please explain retro viral DNA and also cancer

>16. DNA of humans differ/vary by about 10-12% from each other. 50% of
>human DNA is identical to the DNA of a banana. Humans and apes have no
>common ancestor.
this is incorrect the difference is no more then 3%, humans share 60% DNA
with a banana,
Humans and apes have common ancestors, and they both share the same retro
viral DNA, as well as different retro viral DNA which clearly shows when the
species split. this is scientific fact.

>17. Common sense and science reveal the fact of "Intelligent Design."
>There are cells which are more complex than New York City or modern
>space shuttles.
common sense?
complexity shows the age of the earth, complex things come via gradual slow
change from less complex things.

>18. There is no real vestigial/useless organ. There is no junk DNA.
>Note: Males' nipples "arouse" women.
absolute rubbish, please explain retro viral DNA, also you can't seriously
believe nipples were created soley to arouse woman.
what happens when a 2 headed snake is born?
or a hemaphrodite.
thanks for the sexual tip though I'll be sure to wear tassles on my nipples
next time I'm involved in a sexual act.

>19. Mutations are harmful, deadly, and destructive to genetic codes.
>Example: Cancer.
over whelming majority of mutations are of no benefit to the organism, this
is scientific fact.
you have also just debunked your number 15 lol

>20. Natural selection and Sexual selection do not eliminate
>destructive genetic codes.
if they are destructive to the organism before sexual maturity they will be
eliminated, how ever if not they will stay in the gene pool just like retro
viral DNA

>21. The fossil record and the "Cambrian Explosion" are enemies of
>evolution. There were NO "mice-bats" with one wing or two wings each
>having 25% bone structure. There were NO walking fis

[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-15 Thread Haikal Saadh

M@ Bourke wrote:
>
>
> >18. There is no real vestigial/useless organ. There is no junk DNA.
> >Note: Males' nipples "arouse" women.
> absolute rubbish, please explain retro viral DNA, also you can't 
> seriously believe nipples were created soley to arouse woman.
> what happens when a 2 headed snake is born?
> or a hemaphrodite.
> thanks for the sexual tip though I'll be sure to wear tassles on my 
> nipples next time I'm involved in a sexual act.
Dammit, you mean I turned the air conditioning up for nothing???

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[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-20 Thread Scott Barnes

although i am an evangelist for Microsoft, this is so not me... :P

we'd have more of an evil undercurrent :P hehehe


On 5/15/07, Secret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is a section below with the title "Atheism and Evolution are
> WRONG."
>
> All those who have sinned deserve to suffer in Hell forever. "Pride"
> is an example of a terrible sin.
>
> 1. Repent (be truly sorry for your sins; beg for God's forgiveness;
> abandon sin; ask Him to help you stop sinning; and repent for His
> sake).
>
> 2. Completely trust in God only; do not trust in yourself.
>
> 3. Love the Lord with all of your heart.
>
> The Son of God (the Lord Jesus Christ) suffered and died on the cross
> to pay for the sins of those who trust in Him. His blood can clean
> away our sins. He was buried for three days, then lived again. There
> is hope of eternal life and happiness for those who trust in God.
>
> Your efforts and works cannot save you. Only God is truly righteous
> and good. Humans are totally corrupt, but thankfully God controls all
> things. Thank the Lord if He has saved you, and if His Spirit has
> given you the ability to trust in Him.
>
> -
>
> Atheism and Evolution are wrong:
>
> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God.
>
> God is the Intelligent Creator of the Universe.
>
> If you refuse to trust in God, it's not my loss.
>
> 1. Energy/matter cannot be created nor destroyed through natural
> methods.
>
> 2. The Universe cannot create itself. If it created itself, then
> anything can create itself; and the Universe can have a "Mind" of its
> own.
>
> 3. Fine-tuning of the Universe.
> 4. Laws of physics do not order themselves. They have no goals.
> 5. No oscillating universe; no multiverse.
> 6. Universe moving towards entropy (or heat death).
> 7. Planets do not form through natural methods.
> 8. Gases scatter/dissipate quickly. Therefore, Jupiter have been
> created.
> 9. Saturn has three rings. They have been set in place.
> 10. A Theory: the Earth is near the center of the Universe. This idea
> supports the Bible.
> 11. The Earth is not millions of years old. Notes: Magnetic field
> decay; Archaeology; History, other "Time limiters." Note: Ancient
> people were as smart as modern men. Evolutionists have no excuse.
>
> 12. Misplaced fossils; Wrong sequence of geological strata/layers;
> Polystrata fossils are enemies of Uniformitarianism and Evolution.
>
> 13. Decay rates are not constant. Note: Even the speed of light is not
> constant. Radiometric methods are unreliable. Example of a flaw: A
> radiometric method showed that primate skull KNM-ER 1470 was 212-230
> million years old. Even evolutionists rejected it.
>
> 14. NATURAL life can only come from life. Abiogenesis (or spontaneous
> generation) is impossible.
> 15. The DNA double-helix, self-repair codes, self-checking system/
> algorithms, structure, DNA language convention, irreducible cell
> complexity, and chromosome count are enemies of evolution.
>
> 16. DNA of humans differ/vary by about 10-12% from each other. 50% of
> human DNA is identical to the DNA of a banana. Humans and apes have no
> common ancestor.
>
> 17. Common sense and science reveal the fact of "Intelligent Design."
> There are cells which are more complex than New York City or modern
> space shuttles.
>
> 18. There is no real vestigial/useless organ. There is no junk DNA.
> Note: Males' nipples "arouse" women.
>
> 19. Mutations are harmful, deadly, and destructive to genetic codes.
> Example: Cancer.
> 20. Natural selection and Sexual selection do not eliminate
> destructive genetic codes.
> 21. The fossil record and the "Cambrian Explosion" are enemies of
> evolution. There were NO "mice-bats" with one wing or two wings each
> having 25% bone structure. There were NO walking fishes.
>
> 22. The Lord gave humans a conscience, morals, and advanced
> intelligence.
> 23. Strong evidence of a Global Flood in the past. This fact supports
> the Bible. Geologic layers were formed quickly and catastrophically.
> Note: Hydro-plate theory.
>
> 24. No historical record gives clues about "evolution."
> 25. Scientists can use false or "biased" data. Examples: Piltdown man
> deception, Lucy mistake, Archaeopteryx mistake.
>
> 26. Evolution is science fiction (a myth). It is similar to the story
> of the Centaurs (horse-men) and Mermaids (fish-women). I don't believe
> in Centaurs and Mermaids.
>
> 27. Philosophers love wisdom. But, only God is truly wise. Atheists
> are not philosophers. They are not free-thinkers.
>
> 28. Science is closely related to knowledge or information. These
> things are useless if there is no God. True scientists trust in the
> Creator of the Universe.
>
> 29. Atheism or evolution does not provide a solid foundation for
> morality. If there is no God, there is no good nor evil.
>
> 30. Evolution is a myth. Even if it is true, there are evolutionists
> who believe in God.
> 31. Every time atheists and evolutionists cannot answer a valid
> question, the

[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.

2007-05-20 Thread Peter Tilbrook
I thought it was "spam". At any rate I never discuss my religion (born St.
John of God Hospital, both his and his fathers closest connection with
Christianity) - serious that was on my 21st BD invitation LOL. Or politics.

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