[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Kate Green]

http://wikipedlla.com/simultaneous_editing_in_cfeclipse
> Hi
>  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
>  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
>  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
>  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
>  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>  cheers

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Karan Joshi]

anyway..thank you all for the quick replies...

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Ricardo Russon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> i would guess it was the same dev team that made the plugin. :P
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Ricardo Russon]

i would guess it was the same dev team that made the plugin. :P

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Karan Joshi]

now, here is my attempt at being useful

*http://www.spectrumscm.cou aom/ 

*good stuff matecontent looks good...but it would be safe to say that
whosoever designed that site didn't do a good job at all...


On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ricardo Russon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> yeah i know it was.
>
> now, here is my attempt at being useful
>
> *http://www.spectrumscm.com/*
>
> Some features that i think will help.
>
> Automatic detection of files that have been checked out concurrently and
> enhanced merge support for concurrent checkouts
> concurrent file editing for both ASCII and binary files
> 
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Ricardo Russon]

yeah i know it was.

now, here is my attempt at being useful

*http://www.spectrumscm.com/*

Some features that i think will help.

Automatic detection of files that have been checked out concurrently and
enhanced merge support for concurrent checkouts
concurrent file editing for both ASCII and binary files


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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Andrew Scott]

Eclipse does that but you have to have that file open for the notificationJ

 

Bad suggestion.

 



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*Dont shoot me*

 

How about DreamWeaver?

Put the document on a shared drive and dreamweaver will notify the other
person that the file has been updated and should be reloaded.

 

Yes.. it has its own set of problems, I know.. just throwing it out there.




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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Barry Beattie]

you probably do this already ...

but if your development team isn't a rib-prod or yell (over the
partition) away...

... don't discount the use of ICQ/IM/chat for passing messages like

"file committed - do an update now" or "what was that URL again?" or
"is it beer o'clock yet?"

just a quick thought thrown out there...




On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Karan Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cheersI would just say No to that for a lot of obvious reasons
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Ricardo Russon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > *Dont shoot me*
> >
> > How about DreamWeaver?
> > Put the document on a shared drive and dreamweaver will notify the other
> person that the file has been updated and should be reloaded.
> >
> > Yes.. it has its own set of problems, I know.. just throwing it out there.
> >
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Karan Joshi]

cheersI would just say No to that for a lot of obvious reasons

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Ricardo Russon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> *Dont shoot me*
>
> How about DreamWeaver?
> Put the document on a shared drive and dreamweaver will notify the other
> person that the file has been updated and should be reloaded.
>
> Yes.. it has its own set of problems, I know.. just throwing it out there.
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Ricardo Russon]

*Dont shoot me*

How about DreamWeaver?
Put the document on a shared drive and dreamweaver will notify the other
person that the file has been updated and should be reloaded.

Yes.. it has its own set of problems, I know.. just throwing it out there.

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Chris Velevitch]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Karan Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We want a facility where lets say I update a file and want my colleague to
> see it. I want to use this tool so that I just send him a message, he checks

People have been suggesting Subversion because you can get Subversion
to send emails whenever a file is updated in the repository.

> his Eclipse and bingo, the updated file is already there. The word

With any version control system, you have explicitly update your
workspace to see what changed. And in the process you will be warned
of any changes that conflict with anything you've changed, but have
yet to commit back into the repository.

> 'simultaneous' has been used to convey that we want to edit the same piece
> of code on two different. Now that I have explained that, does anyone know

What you are wanting, to me, is very unusual. So I need to clarify
that you know what version control systems are as what you are wanting
sounds like what version control systems are original meant to solve.

In case you don't know version control systems are, I'll try and as
brief as possible describe them.

Version control systems are a centralised repository that stores all
the files of a project along with all the changes that have happened
to each and every file along with additional information indicating
which version of which files were used to create and deploy a release
of the project.

Each developer will checkout a complete copy of the repository to work
on. Changes are committed back into the repository. Each developer can
update their local copy with changes made into the repository by other
developers at that point the developer will be notify if any of the
updates conflict with any uncommitted changes. The typically,
notification of changes made to the repository can be automatically
sent to everyone who needs to know.

The principle behind version control is you work on a local copy and
not the central repository and version control systems protects the
integrity of the repository by preventing people from directly
modifying the repository. Version control systems maintain a complete
history of whom did what to which file and when.

> of any plugin's?

There are 2 main subversion plugins: subclipse and subversive.

I apologise if this is not new to you or your manager, it's just what
your intent sounds very much like what version control systems are all
about.


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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Mark Picker]

Sounds like you just need a shared folder so your looking at the same
code base.

But moving on from that, I would look at something like Subversion
(see Geoff's post above) for version control.

Cheers
Mark

On Feb 26, 9:16 am, "Karan Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> thnx people
>
> We want a facility where lets say I update a file and want my colleague to
> see it. I want to use this tool so that I just send him a message, he checks
> his Eclipse and bingo, the updated file is already there. The word
> 'simultaneous' has been used to convey that we want to edit the same piece
> of code on two different. Now that I have explained that, does anyone know
> of any plugin's?
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?
>
> > what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
> > time?
>
> > if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
> > refactored and modularised?
>
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >  Hi
>
> > >  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
> > >  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
> > >  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
> > >  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
> > >  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>
> > >  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>
> > >  cheers- Hide quoted text -
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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Karan Joshi]

thnx people

We want a facility where lets say I update a file and want my colleague to
see it. I want to use this tool so that I just send him a message, he checks
his Eclipse and bingo, the updated file is already there. The word
'simultaneous' has been used to convey that we want to edit the same piece
of code on two different. Now that I have explained that, does anyone know
of any plugin's?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?
>
> what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
> time?
>
> if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
> refactored and modularised?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi
> >
> >  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
> >  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
> >  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
> >  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
> >  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
> >
> >  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
> >
> >  cheers
> >  >
> >
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Geoff Bowers]

On Feb 25, 4:30 pm, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
> to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
> stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
> have found one called Composent Collaboratoion 
> Pluginhttp://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>
> Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?

Hmm.. not sure about an Eclipse plugin.  But the best tool for
simultaneous code development I've seen is Subetha (Mac only):
http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaengine/

If what you are after is in fact just some decent Version control
tools, you might consider Subversion:
http://blog.daemon.com.au/go/blog-post/moving-to-a-version-controlled-build-process

Regards,

-- geoff
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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Andrew Scott]

As with Barry and Dale,

I agree with the fact that even though Eclipse built in with SVN, can
merge code it gets messy.

And if you both are working on the same file at the same time, which
can happen then you sould look at merging code with SVN.

But the agreement comes down to refactoring your code as well.



On 2/25/08, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah,
>
> Just having fun, but agree 100% two people working on the same code file is
> just a dumb idea.
>
> Good design will have your code files kept pretty small and separated out
> into packages, classes, methods etc
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
> http://learncf.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Barry Beattie
> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 5:00 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse
>
>
> you don't know my kids...
>
> but seriously, two people editing the same lines of code - sends
> shivers down my spine.
>
> if it's a collaborative effort, then perhaps pair-programming? two
> heads, two pair of eyes, one pair of hands.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  But Barry,
> >
> >  Normally big toys are suitable for multiple kids to play with at once :)
> >
> >  Regards
> >  Dale Fraser
> >  http://learncf.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> >  Of Barry Beattie
> >  Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 4:38 PM
> >  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse
> >
> >
> >  as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?
> >
> >  what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
> >  time?
> >
> >  if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
> >  refactored and modularised?
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  Hi
> >  >
> >  >  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
> >  >  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
> >  >  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
> >  >  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
> >  >  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
> >  >
> >  >  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
> >  >
> >  >  cheers
> >  >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >  >
> >
>
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Dale Fraser]

Yeah,

Just having fun, but agree 100% two people working on the same code file is
just a dumb idea.

Good design will have your code files kept pretty small and separated out
into packages, classes, methods etc

Regards
Dale Fraser
http://learncf.com


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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 5:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse


you don't know my kids...

but seriously, two people editing the same lines of code - sends
shivers down my spine.

if it's a collaborative effort, then perhaps pair-programming? two
heads, two pair of eyes, one pair of hands.



On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  But Barry,
>
>  Normally big toys are suitable for multiple kids to play with at once :)
>
>  Regards
>  Dale Fraser
>  http://learncf.com
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
>  Of Barry Beattie
>  Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 4:38 PM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse
>
>
>  as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?
>
>  what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
>  time?
>
>  if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
>  refactored and modularised?
>
>
>  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hi
>  >
>  >  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
>  >  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
>  >  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
>  >  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
>  >  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>  >
>  >  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>  >
>  >  cheers
>  >  >
>  >
>
>
>
>  >
>



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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Barry Beattie]

you don't know my kids...

but seriously, two people editing the same lines of code - sends
shivers down my spine.

if it's a collaborative effort, then perhaps pair-programming? two
heads, two pair of eyes, one pair of hands.



On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  But Barry,
>
>  Normally big toys are suitable for multiple kids to play with at once :)
>
>  Regards
>  Dale Fraser
>  http://learncf.com
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>  Of Barry Beattie
>  Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 4:38 PM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse
>
>
>  as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?
>
>  what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
>  time?
>
>  if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
>  refactored and modularised?
>
>
>  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hi
>  >
>  >  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
>  >  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
>  >  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
>  >  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
>  >  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>  >
>  >  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>  >
>  >  cheers
>  >  >
>  >
>
>
>
>  >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Dale Fraser]

But Barry,

Normally big toys are suitable for multiple kids to play with at once :)

Regards
Dale Fraser
http://learncf.com


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Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 4:38 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse


as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?

what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same
time?

if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
refactored and modularised?


On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi
>
>  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
>  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
>  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
>  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
>  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>
>  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>
>  cheers
>  >
>



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[cfaussie] Re: Simultaneous editing in CFEclipse

[Barry Beattie]

as a developer (and father of two children) I just gotta ask - why?

what happen if both of you want to play with the same "toy" at the same time?

if the file is that big, wouldn't it be more convenient to have it
refactored and modularised?


On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, kazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi
>
>  We use CFEclipse for development at work. Me and my manager would like
>  to work on the same file at the same time from our respective work
>  stations. I am trying to find a plugin for Eclipse to accomplish it. I
>  have found one called Composent Collaboratoion Plugin
>  http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle172.html
>
>  Has anyone use this and can anyone suggest any other plugin?
>
>  cheers
>  >
>

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