Re: [PATCH] D31140: [LLVMbugs] [Bug 18710] Only generate .ARM.exidx and .ARM.extab when needed in EHABI

2017-03-22 Thread Christian Bruel via cfe-commits

Hi Jon


Le 03/21/2017 à 09:11 PM, Jonathan Roelofs a écrit :



On 3/21/17 1:53 PM, Christian Bruel via Phabricator wrote:

chrib added a comment.

In https://reviews.llvm.org/D31140#706411, @jroelofs wrote:


Can you clarify the logic here? It's my understanding that:

`-fno-exceptions` does *not* imply `-fno-unwind-tables`

however:

`-fno-unwind-tables` *does* imply that exceptions cannot be used on 
targets that require the tables to do unwinding.


Yes, (bad things might happen or (std::terminate will be called, or 
destructors not called.)...


But -f[no]-unwind-tables implies the UWTable attribute, not NoUwind 
attribute. To toggle NoUnwind, use -fno-exceptions


And this is getting worse with .canunwind which means DoesNotThrow :)

in my understanding,  the logic is as follow:

Since "An exception cannot propagate through a function with a 
nounwind table. The exception handling runtime environment terminates 
the program if it encounters a nounwind table during exception 
processing." (ARM Information Center)


The "nounwind" LLVM attribute, which means "Function does not throw" 
translates as the EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value in the exception table index 
table which needs to be created for the purpose (for the function)


I think the problem is here, actually. "nounwind" implies "does not 
throw", but "does not throw" really should not imply "nounwind". This 
is something that ought to be clarified in the langref with the 
addition of a "does not throw" attribute. Then the optimizer should be 
fixed to deduce "does not throw" instead of "nounwind", and we can let 
"nounwind" continue to imply .cantunwind.


Absolutely, renaming the nounwind attribute into a nothrow would make 
things lot clearer! That would fix the semantic (which is already a lot).


This has been already discussed here and there. e.g for reference this 
thread

http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2014-February/070366.html

without any outcome, because the optimizer cannot deduce, without a 
context information from clang, if the environment supports EH or not.


One could imaging a global (LTO) analysis to find any cxa_throw in the 
IRs, but that would not pass the pre-compiled object barrier or dynamic 
dependencies.


So this context information could be well derived either from the 
language (! C) or the fno-exception flag. Unfortunately none of them is 
known to the optimizer.


The proposal was to make this information  of the form of an option 
(like here) or eventually an additional attribute of the form 
nocantunwind (or noeh, any suggestion welcome). So


attributes #0 = { nounwind nocantunwind}

means for the arm streamer dont' emit the .cantunwind directive required 
by the EHABI if the function cant take exceptions






And of course without exception runtime environment (the test here) 
we don't need this table. So I can see 3 cases:


- nounwind set :Generate .cantunwind directive 
and unwind table
- nounwind set but not EH   Do not generate the .cantunwind directive 
and do not emit the unwind table
- uwtable set Need to generate the unwind 
table (even without EH)


The  disable-arm-cantunwind flag means: without EH support if the 
function does not throw, do dot generate the exception tables and the 
EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value.


I'm not a big fan of this workaround flag. I'd rather see this fixed 
by clarifying/fixing the semantics of the IR.




yes we can clarify the semantic of the IR. But that will not be enough 
to fix the problem.


nounwind implies emit .cantunwind which implies exception table
nounwind + NOEH implies don't emit the exception table

and we need this NOEH from clang. Now the question is how?

1) a new arm specific flag
2) a target independant no-exception flag
3) a nocantunwind attribute

But I'm not a big fan of adding a new attribute for a arm specific need...

Best Regards

Christian



Jon




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Re: [PATCH] D31140: [LLVMbugs] [Bug 18710] Only generate .ARM.exidx and .ARM.extab when needed in EHABI

2017-03-22 Thread Christian Bruel via cfe-commits

Just to add to our comments bellow,

One experiment I did is to use the nounwind/uwtable combination to 
achieve what we need.

e.g:

nounwind= emit nothing
nounwind uwtable  = emit the .exidx .extab section with the CANTUNWIND

However I gave that up because of tests legacy. e.g

./CodeGen/ARM/ehabi.ll we test :

; (6) .cantunwind directive should be available if the function is 
marked with

; nounwind function attribute.

So many tests would need to be rewritten as
; (6) .cantunwind directive should be available if the function is 
marked with

; nounwind uwtable function attributes

So I'm not sure in which extend we can change attribute semantic if this 
implies adapting the regressions tests ?


But if this is acceptable I'm ready to try this... any other opinion ?

Cheers

Christian

Le 03/21/2017 à 09:11 PM, Jonathan Roelofs a écrit :



On 3/21/17 1:53 PM, Christian Bruel via Phabricator wrote:

chrib added a comment.

In https://reviews.llvm.org/D31140#706411, @jroelofs wrote:


Can you clarify the logic here? It's my understanding that:

`-fno-exceptions` does *not* imply `-fno-unwind-tables`

however:

`-fno-unwind-tables` *does* imply that exceptions cannot be used on 
targets that require the tables to do unwinding.


Yes, (bad things might happen or (std::terminate will be called, or 
destructors not called.)...


But -f[no]-unwind-tables implies the UWTable attribute, not NoUwind 
attribute. To toggle NoUnwind, use -fno-exceptions


And this is getting worse with .canunwind which means DoesNotThrow :)

in my understanding,  the logic is as follow:

Since "An exception cannot propagate through a function with a 
nounwind table. The exception handling runtime environment terminates 
the program if it encounters a nounwind table during exception 
processing." (ARM Information Center)


The "nounwind" LLVM attribute, which means "Function does not throw" 
translates as the EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value in the exception table index 
table which needs to be created for the purpose (for the function)


I think the problem is here, actually. "nounwind" implies "does not 
throw", but "does not throw" really should not imply "nounwind". This 
is something that ought to be clarified in the langref with the 
addition of a "does not throw" attribute. Then the optimizer should be 
fixed to deduce "does not throw" instead of "nounwind", and we can let 
"nounwind" continue to imply .cantunwind.




And of course without exception runtime environment (the test here) 
we don't need this table. So I can see 3 cases:


- nounwind set :Generate .cantunwind directive 
and unwind table
- nounwind set but not EH   Do not generate the .cantunwind directive 
and do not emit the unwind table
- uwtable set Need to generate the unwind 
table (even without EH)


The  disable-arm-cantunwind flag means: without EH support if the 
function does not throw, do dot generate the exception tables and the 
EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value.


I'm not a big fan of this workaround flag. I'd rather see this fixed 
by clarifying/fixing the semantics of the IR.



Jon




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Re: [PATCH] D31140: [LLVMbugs] [Bug 18710] Only generate .ARM.exidx and .ARM.extab when needed in EHABI

2017-03-21 Thread Jonathan Roelofs via cfe-commits



On 3/21/17 1:53 PM, Christian Bruel via Phabricator wrote:

chrib added a comment.

In https://reviews.llvm.org/D31140#706411, @jroelofs wrote:


Can you clarify the logic here? It's my understanding that:

`-fno-exceptions` does *not* imply `-fno-unwind-tables`

however:

`-fno-unwind-tables` *does* imply that exceptions cannot be used on targets 
that require the tables to do unwinding.


Yes, (bad things might happen or (std::terminate will be called, or destructors 
not called.)...

But -f[no]-unwind-tables implies the UWTable attribute, not NoUwind attribute. 
To toggle NoUnwind, use -fno-exceptions

And this is getting worse with .canunwind which means DoesNotThrow :)

in my understanding,  the logic is as follow:

Since "An exception cannot propagate through a function with a nounwind table. The 
exception handling runtime environment terminates the program if it encounters a nounwind 
table during exception processing." (ARM Information Center)

The "nounwind" LLVM attribute, which means "Function does not throw" translates 
as the EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value in the exception table index table which needs to be created for the 
purpose (for the function)


I think the problem is here, actually. "nounwind" implies "does not 
throw", but "does not throw" really should not imply "nounwind". This is 
something that ought to be clarified in the langref with the addition of 
a "does not throw" attribute. Then the optimizer should be fixed to 
deduce "does not throw" instead of "nounwind", and we can let "nounwind" 
continue to imply .cantunwind.




And of course without exception runtime environment (the test here) we don't 
need this table. So I can see 3 cases:

- nounwind set :Generate .cantunwind directive and unwind 
table
- nounwind set but not EH   Do not generate the .cantunwind directive and do 
not emit the unwind table
- uwtable set Need to generate the unwind table (even 
without EH)

The  disable-arm-cantunwind flag means: without EH support if the function does 
not throw, do dot generate the exception tables and the EXIDX_CANTUNWIND value.


I'm not a big fan of this workaround flag. I'd rather see this fixed by 
clarifying/fixing the semantics of the IR.



Jon




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