[Jchat] Turtle Graphics

2014-11-27 Thread Björn Helgason
I remember seeing something about tgsjhs and am interested in trying it out.

Where/how do I find and use it?

Is there a lab/demo available?
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Re: [Jchat] Turtle Graphics

2014-11-27 Thread Brian Schott
Let me know if you have any questions. And thanks for asking

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 On Nov 27, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Björn Helgason gos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I remember seeing something about tgsjhs and am interested in trying it out.
 
 Where/how do I find and use it?
 
 Is there a lab/demo available?
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[Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Joe Bogner
I created a new demo of an ide for mobile devices that maximizes screen
real estate and uses key chords to execute commands.

http://joebo.github.io/j-emscripten/mobile.html

(note: this will still download about 3mb of javascript -- data plans
beware)

For example, type qq and wait a few seconds for the help to appear

To execute the J script type qqx

Please let me know how this works on your devices and if its useful. I
tested on an android samsung S4 and an ipad.

A few screenshots are here: http://imgur.com/a/efOrv

For best results, disable auto correct and auto capitalization on android.
On iPad, it will utilize the autocorrect and autocapitalize html attributes
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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Brian Schott
Joe,

I am not having much success using my iPad. I see 2 panels that span the 
horizontal region of the screen. I get no read out in either panel, even if I 
prefix a command with 'smoutput'.

Btw, the earlier versions did not work, either.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLCriSwALE

 On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A lighter weight version is here:
 http://joebo.github.io/j-emscripten/mobile-slim.html
 
 It's only about 1MB but not all J functions are available
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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Joe Bogner
Brian, thanks for testing.

What version of iOS? I tested on 8 on an iPad version 4

To execute, are you typing qqx quickly?




On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Joe,

 I am not having much success using my iPad. I see 2 panels that span the
 horizontal region of the screen. I get no read out in either panel, even if
 I prefix a command with 'smoutput'.

 Btw, the earlier versions did not work, either.


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 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLCriSwALE

  On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  A lighter weight version is here:
  http://joebo.github.io/j-emscripten/mobile-slim.html
 
  It's only about 1MB but not all J functions are available
  ,
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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Brian Schott
Version 8.0 (12a365)

Which panel is the input panel?
Quickly?
qqx?


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 On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian, thanks for testing.
 
 What version of iOS? I tested on 8 on an iPad version 4
 
 To execute, are you typing qqx quickly?
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 I am not having much success using my iPad. I see 2 panels that span the
 horizontal region of the screen. I get no read out in either panel, even if
 I prefix a command with 'smoutput'.
 
 Btw, the earlier versions did not work, either.
 
 
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 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLCriSwALE
 
 On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A lighter weight version is here:
 http://joebo.github.io/j-emscripten/mobile-slim.html
 
 It's only about 1MB but not all J functions are available
 ,
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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Joe Bogner
The top panel

It will also work on your desktop

Chords are meant to allow the system to interpret commands from normal
text. In normal text it is rare to type qq. We cant use ctl or alt on
mobiles effectively so I chose a chord using uncommon key combinations.
This should certainly be customizable and optimized

Think of qq as alt or ctrl or meta or the command key
On Nov 27, 2014 2:14 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 Version 8.0 (12a365)

 Which panel is the input panel?
 Quickly?
 qqx?


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  On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Brian, thanks for testing.
 
  What version of iOS? I tested on 8 on an iPad version 4
 
  To execute, are you typing qqx quickly?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  I am not having much success using my iPad. I see 2 panels that span the
  horizontal region of the screen. I get no read out in either panel,
 even if
  I prefix a command with 'smoutput'.
 
  Btw, the earlier versions did not work, either.
 
 
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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLCriSwALE
 
  On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  A lighter weight version is here:
  http://joebo.github.io/j-emscripten/mobile-slim.html
 
  It's only about 1MB but not all J functions are available
  ,
  --
  For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
 
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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Brian Schott
I have had a little success by changing my preferences for the keyboard. I have 
had to remove the predictive and other selections. So now I have finally seen 
the help screen and understand a little bit better what you meant by QQX. 

However so far the only output I have seen is the following.

|error: smoutput
|   smoutput0]i.5
|[-0] 


I am not near my desktop computer now. It may be that I should wait until after 
Thanksgiving to explore this more.

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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Joe Bogner
Thanks for the feedback. That same statement works on my iPad. Take a
screenshot and email it to me direct if you have a moment (any day)

Here is the screenshot from my iPad

http://m.imgur.com/944b6ni
 On Nov 27, 2014 2:43 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have had a little success by changing my preferences for the keyboard. I
 have had to remove the predictive and other selections. So now I have
 finally seen the help screen and understand a little bit better what you
 meant by QQX.

 However so far the only output I have seen is the following.

 |error: smoutput
 |   smoutput0]i.5
 |[-0]


 I am not near my desktop computer now. It may be that I should wait until
 after Thanksgiving to explore this more.

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Re: [Jchat] mobile optimized proof of concept emscripten ide

2014-11-27 Thread Joe Bogner
Also, what is the exact value error? It will execute everything in the top
panel. If you see qqx or anything like that in the top panel then there is
a bug or you aren't hitting the keys fast enough

If it is working properly then it should look like the screenshots.

It is a bit uncoventional to use the chords. The benefit is that the focus
never needs to leave the top input panel which means the virtual keyboard
wont keep popping up, it wont keep zooming, and should be faster than
clicking.

We can also define many shortcuts to text and actions - such as qqo
inputting smoutput or qqh moving the cursor left, which is a pain without a
virtual keyboard with arrow keys (such as hackers keyboard)

I may also need to do a screencast to show it
On Nov 27, 2014 5:58 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, not sure why yet

 Can you try qq0 or qq1 ? Those should show a result for a boxed array and
 canvas drawing. It works best on Chrome
 On Nov 27, 2014 4:51 PM, Devon McCormick devon...@gmail.com wrote:

 On my Samsung Galaxy 4 phone, I see results but also keep getting a value
 error on qq.

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Joe Bogner joebog...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for the feedback. That same statement works on my iPad. Take a
  screenshot and email it to me direct if you have a moment (any day)
 
  Here is the screenshot from my iPad
 
  http://m.imgur.com/944b6ni
   On Nov 27, 2014 2:43 PM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   I have had a little success by changing my preferences for the
 keyboard.
  I
   have had to remove the predictive and other selections. So now I have
   finally seen the help screen and understand a little bit better what
 you
   meant by QQX.
  
   However so far the only output I have seen is the following.
  
   |error: smoutput
   |   smoutput0]i.5
   |[-0]
  
  
   I am not near my desktop computer now. It may be that I should wait
 until
   after Thanksgiving to explore this more.
  
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Re: [Jchat] Turtle Graphics

2014-11-27 Thread Björn Helgason
Thanks for the information.

I will be looking at this as soon as I can.

Let you know how it goes.

It may take a few days.

The wiki looks interesting/promising/good.
On 27 Nov 2014 17:07, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let me know if you have any questions. And thanks for asking

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  On Nov 27, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Björn Helgason gos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I remember seeing something about tgsjhs and am interested in trying it
 out.
 
  Where/how do I find and use it?
 
  Is there a lab/demo available?
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