Re: [Jchat] Vocabulary

2019-12-16 Thread Raul Miller
I looked at the current page implementation and then did a bit of
searching based on what I saw.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Timeless suggests a
possible improvement.

Thanks,


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Raul

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 4:31 PM Marc Simpson  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 1:17 PM chris burke  wrote:
>
> > We had not planned to keep the old HTML pages up to date, see
> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Community_Wiki_vs_HTML_Publications .
>
> Thanks.
>
> > The daily HTTrack dump works pretty well offline, see
> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Help/Offline .
>
> I'll take a look.  If the plan is for NuVoc to be the main source
> going forwards, perhaps a dump could be bundled with the IDE?  Local
> help (that launches quickly) is nice to have.
>
> > We might be able to do something better for just NuVoc, along the lines of
> > the offline Jd docs. If anyone has ideas, let me know.
>
> My main issue with NuVoc is that (I find) the primitives table hard to
> read, due in part to colouring (black on purple, red isn't very
> contrastive) and in part to padding (I can see approx 2/3 of the
> original dictionary page on my 13" laptop, vs. roughly 1/3 on the
> wiki).  NuVoc's font size is also---to my eyes---too small, though
> increasing it with the current layout makes the screen estate issue
> even worse.
>
> (It would be useful to learn whether these issues are peculiar to me.)
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Re: [Jchat] Vocabulary

2019-12-16 Thread Marc Simpson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 1:17 PM chris burke  wrote:

> We had not planned to keep the old HTML pages up to date, see
> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Community_Wiki_vs_HTML_Publications .

Thanks.

> The daily HTTrack dump works pretty well offline, see
> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Help/Offline .

I'll take a look.  If the plan is for NuVoc to be the main source
going forwards, perhaps a dump could be bundled with the IDE?  Local
help (that launches quickly) is nice to have.

> We might be able to do something better for just NuVoc, along the lines of
> the offline Jd docs. If anyone has ideas, let me know.

My main issue with NuVoc is that (I find) the primitives table hard to
read, due in part to colouring (black on purple, red isn't very
contrastive) and in part to padding (I can see approx 2/3 of the
original dictionary page on my 13" laptop, vs. roughly 1/3 on the
wiki).  NuVoc's font size is also---to my eyes---too small, though
increasing it with the current layout makes the screen estate issue
even worse.

(It would be useful to learn whether these issues are peculiar to me.)
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Re: [Jchat] Vocabulary

2019-12-16 Thread chris burke
We had not planned to keep the old HTML pages up to date, see
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Community_Wiki_vs_HTML_Publications .

The daily HTTrack dump works pretty well offline, see
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Help/Offline .

We might be able to do something better for just NuVoc, along the lines of
the offline Jd docs. If anyone has ideas, let me know.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 1:01 PM Marc Simpson  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is there an up to date version of the J vocabulary
> (https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/vocabul.htm)?  If not, are
> there any plans to update the original help system to cover v901
> engine changes?
>
> I realise that NuVoc (https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/NuVoc) exists
> but unfortunately find the presentation very noisy and difficult to
> scan through quickly.  Having a local copy bundled with J would also
> be preferable.
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
> --
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>
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[Jchat] Vocabulary

2019-12-16 Thread Marc Simpson
Hi all,

Is there an up to date version of the J vocabulary
(https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/vocabul.htm)?  If not, are
there any plans to update the original help system to cover v901
engine changes?

I realise that NuVoc (https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/NuVoc) exists
but unfortunately find the presentation very noisy and difficult to
scan through quickly.  Having a local copy bundled with J would also
be preferable.

Thanks,
Marc
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For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm