Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [Tech] flaming ;-)

2005-07-13 Thread Anonymous Sender
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:01:07 +0200, you wrote:

 Matthew Toseland wrote:
  Well, the point is: The alternative is that the only people who will
  ever use freenet are:
  a) Seriously dedicated libertarians like us, who consider the kiddy porn
  to be a price worth paying, and
  b) Psychos who don't care.

 I have no further arguments than the ones presented by others, but for
 the record I'm too against any censorship. C.p. and whatever are
 problems to be dealt with in the real world. Internet is already full of
 questionable content.

 What I think is that Freenet must be an attempt at the purest free
 speech. The moment it has some censorship in place it will be worth no
 more than any other politically correct project (just IMO, of course).


This is my point exactly.  Absoulte freedom of speech is, in my 
mind, the ONLY proper goal for something like freenet.  Anything 
less is a betrayal of the whole
idea of freenet.

I hate the c.p. also, but in spite of that, ANY form of 
censorship must be made to be impossible or at the very least, 
EXTREMELY difficult.

I would honestly suggest:

1) Effort should go to make freenet even more anonymous than it 
is now.  It should be absolutely without question as impossible 
to identify a poster.. OR prevent them from posting.

2) It should be made as difficult as possible to identify what 
content is stored on what node, and / or to comply with a 
'remove this' order from a TLA

3) Freenet needs to be increasingly difficult to detect or block 
by ISP's or govt agency's, including NSA/CIA/FBI/Homeland 
Security.  (yes, I believe that IS possible, and achiveable)



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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [Tech] flaming ;-)

2005-07-13 Thread Anonymous Sender
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:32:27 +0100, you wrote:

 What do you think we've been doing for the last N years? The whole
 purpose of a darknet would be to make it hard to detect. As far as
 absolute freedom of speech goes, nobody has yet convinced me that the
 Church of Scientology, Diebold or the office of Richard Nixon would be
 able to censor material which is in the public interest.

The problem is that VERY FEW people ever agree 100% on what 
constitutes 'public interest'


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