Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-10 Thread Timm Murray


David McNab wrote on 5/6/01 3:19 pm:

Can someone please 
recommend the best Linux 
or Linuces for Freenet, and 
in general. (intel platform).

Debian.  Not the easiest for initial setup, but you'll thank yourself
later because your problems with package dependencies are
greatly reduced.


(I tried installing Mandrake 
8.0, but it's got some serious 
gaps - I sense I could be 
hacking the kernel for 
months to get all my devices 
recognised).

I don't know about 8.0, but 7.2 was the most broken distro I've 
seen.  It did have good driver support, though.


Timm Murray

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Ian Clarke

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:17:12AM +1200, David McNab wrote:
 Can someone please recommend the best Linux or Linuces for Freenet,
 and in general. (intel platform).

Both Debian and Redhat have few problems, you just install a JDK (I
prefer IBM's although it isn't OpenSource), and off you go.

Generally, Debian gives you more control, but Redhat is easier for the
newbie.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread David McNab

 The Freenet package is part of Debian now

Holy shit - what a coup!


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  IC == Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 IC Generally, Debian gives you more control, but Redhat is easier
 IC for the newbie.
 
 That's changing all the time, though.
 
 The Freenet package is part of Debian now, and can be installed using
 this command:
 
 apt-get install freenet
 
 Which, like, how can that get easier?
 
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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Leo Howell

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:39:05AM +1200, David McNab wrote:
  The Freenet package is part of Debian now
 
 Holy shit - what a coup!

Not forgetting of course that Debian can be installed directly
from Freenet, thanks to EOF.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Greg Wooledge

David McNab ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  The Freenet package is part of Debian now

Version 0.3.8.1.  The newest version of Freenet isn't packaged yet.

 Holy shit - what a coup!

jekyll:~$ apt-cache search . | wc
   7058   56338  378800

Debian GNU/Linux (unstable).  Over 7000 packages and growing.  And most
of them even work. ;-)

(2 of those 7058 are opera and opera-static, which aren't part of Debian,
so they don't count.  But other than that, I've got nothing nonstandard
in sources.list except for non-free.)

On the other hand, you said you had trouble with Mandrake 8 and kernel
drivers.  If this is the case, you'll probably have even more trouble
with Debian -- the installation is not as polished as Mandrake's, and
the stable Debian has fairly old versions of the kernel and XFree86 by
some people's standards.  (Hint: if you think a Pentium II is obsolete
technology, or if you expect your 2-week-old video card to be supported
by X out of the box, or if you rely on tools like YaST or linuxconf,
you're going to be frustrated by Debian.)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Mark J. Roberts

On 6 May 2001, Mr.Bad wrote:

 The Freenet package is part of Debian now, and can be installed using
 this command:

 apt-get install freenet

 Which, like, how can that get easier?

My Pure Concept Linux system is way easier. I simply *think* about having
an anonymous, uncensorable network andhey, I just liberated all the
purely conceptual people from their purely conceptual oppressive
governments!


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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread David McNab

 My Pure Concept Linux system is way easier. I simply *think* about having
 an anonymous, uncensorable network andhey, I just liberated all the
 purely conceptual people from their purely conceptual oppressive
 governments!

Oh dear :[

And meanwhile, a Chinese dissident being tortured in prison for publishing
pro-democracy essays on the web just has to *think* he's free and - hey
presto! - he's conceptually free!


- Original Message -
From: Mark J. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:10 AM
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 On 6 May 2001, Mr.Bad wrote:

  The Freenet package is part of Debian now, and can be installed using
  this command:
 
  apt-get install freenet
 
  Which, like, how can that get easier?

 My Pure Concept Linux system is way easier. I simply *think* about having
 an anonymous, uncensorable network andhey, I just liberated all the
 purely conceptual people from their purely conceptual oppressive
 governments!


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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Mr . Bad

 GW == Greg Wooledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Me The Freenet package is part of Debian now

GW Version 0.3.8.1.  The newest version of Freenet isn't packaged
GW yet.

Grrr. d00d, cut me some slack. How many other .deb's get out even the
week of the release, much less 3-4 days afterwards? Criminy.

~Mr. Bad

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread Ian Clarke

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:49:58PM +0100, Leo Howell wrote:
 On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:39:05AM +1200, David McNab wrote:
   The Freenet package is part of Debian now
  
  Holy shit - what a coup!
 
 Not forgetting of course that Debian can be installed directly
 from Freenet, thanks to EOF.

Which does create a slight chicken and egg issue ;-)

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Best flavour of Linux?

2001-05-06 Thread David McNab

From: Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:49:58PM +0100, Leo Howell wrote:
 On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:39:05AM +1200, David McNab wrote:
   The Freenet package is part of Debian now
  
  Holy shit - what a coup!
 
 Not forgetting of course that Debian can be installed directly
 from Freenet, thanks to EOF.

Which does create a slight chicken and egg issue ;-)

Chicken omlette washed down with a cup of mocha java.



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